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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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have_v no_o faith_n lib._n de_fw-fr pe●cat_fw-la mer._n &_o remis_n chap._n 28._o presbyterian_a query_n 13._o what_o can_v be_v more_o absurd_a then_o to_o maintain_v a_o transient_a fact_n as_o mr._n t._n have_v do_v make_v infant_n church-member_n without_o any_o law_n promise_v ●r_o covenant-gra●t_a of_o god_n give_v they_o r●ght_n whether_o a_o gift_n that_o be_v never_o give_v be_v not_o a_o contradiction_n v._n p._n 32_o 35_o 39_o 44_o 45_o 151._o and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o promise_n or_o covenant-grant_a of_o infant_n be_v church-membership_n when_o or_o where_o be_v it_o revoke_v baptist_n antiqu._n 13._o whether_o these_o thing_n be_v sure_o suggest_v against_o mr._n t_o and_o whether_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v set_v down_o his_o opinion_n in_o his_o own_o word_n and_o whether_o he_o do_v not_o main_o oppose_v himself_o against_o mr._n baxter_n pretend_a law_n for_o infant_n church-membership_n and_o baptism_n while_o yet_o he_o deny_v not_o infant_n a_o 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in_o the_o donation_n at_o all_o and_o have_v not_o infant_n guilt_n and_o misery_n from_o their_o parent_n and_o though_o life_n and_o pardon_n be_v by_o christ_n only_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o congruous_a that_o the_o mere_a condition_n of_o acceptance_n may_v b●_n perform_v by_o the_o parent_n while_o they_o can_v accept_v for_o themselves_o baptist_n antiq._n 38._o whether_o the_o meritoriousness_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o as_o available_a to_o save_v infant_n without_o any_o man_n acceptance_n thereof_o for_o they_o or_o whether_o have_v god_n tie_v the_o salvation_n of_o any_o person_n to_o the_o acceptance_n of_o another_o and_o whether_o these_o be_v not_o unreasonable_a and_o unscriptural_a conceit_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o better_a ground_n for_o infant-baptism_n that_o you_o thus_o continual_o tautologize_v vary_v little_a from_o that_o which_o you_o have_v say_v once_o and_o again_o presbyterian_a query_n 39_o whether_o it_o be_v no_o advantage_n for_o child_n to_o be_v under_o a_o early_a engagement_n to_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n whether_o to_o dedicate_v they_o betimes_o to_o god_n do_v not_o tend_v to_o secure_v god_n right_a and_o child_n good_a and_o to_o prevent_v their_o sin_n and_o misery_n they_o be_v thus_o under_o a_o double_a obligation_n which_o they_o may_v be_v mind_v of_o betimes_o and_o which_o may_v hold_v they_o more_o strong_o to_o their_o duty_n and_o disadvantage_n the_o tempter_n that_o will_v draw_v they_o off_o from_o god_n &c_n &c_n baptist_n antiqu._n 39_o who_o be_v against_o as_o early_a a_o engagement_n of_o child_n to_o god_n as_o can_v lawful_o be_v make_v and_o do_v not_o the_o baptist_n engage_v their_o child_n to_o god_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o can_v by_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n while_o infant_n and_o then_o by_o the_o best_a education_n they_o be_v able_a when_o docible_a but_o whether_o any_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o purpose_n in_o your_o judgement_n when_o yet_o all_o be_v do_v that_o can_v be_v do_v unless_o it_o be_v rantize_v in_o your_o way_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o better_a to_o leave_v the_o event_n of_o their_o accept_n baptism_n to_o the_o wise_a dispose_n of_o god_n then_o to_o do_v it_o per_fw-mi force_n in_o infancy_n without_o precept_n from_o god_n also_o whether_o the_o infant-baptism_n be_v such_o a_o mean_n to_o propagate_v religion_n as_o you_o suppose_v may_v be_v see_v when_o you_o consider_v how_o in_o the_o darkness_n of_o popery_n pedobaptism_n be_v more_o common_a than_o now_o but_o christianity_n much_o less_o and_o name_v one_o if_o you_o can_v that_o be_v better_v in_o christian_a virtue_n by_o pedobaptism_n we_o think_v we_o can_v name_v one_o and_o that_o yourself_o which_o be_v worse_o for_o it_o for_o have_v you_o not_o that_o to_o rest_v on_o you_o will_v probable_o desire_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n in_o baptism_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o the_o fit_a time_n to_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n in_o baptism_n when_o we_o be_v dead_a with_o he_o from_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n or_o whether_o it_o be_v reasonable_a to_o bury_v sinner_n therein_o till_o they_o be_v dead_a to_o sin_n and_o whether_o it_o can_v profit_v any_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v unless_o he_o have_v the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n by_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o dead_a 1_o pet._n 3._o therein_o presbyterian_a query_n 40._o whether_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v one_o age_n or_o church_n particular_a on_o earth_n since_o adam_n till_o about_o 200_o year_n ago_o that_o the_o anabaptist_n rose_n wherein_o infant_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n baptist_n antiqu._n 40._o whether_o in_o your_o sense_n of_o make_v infant_n member_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la it_o can_v be_v prove_v there_o be_v any_o one_o so_o make_v a_o member_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n till_o abraham_n time_n and_o whether_o john_n baptist_n christ_n or_o any_o by_o his_o order_n do_v receive_v infant_n into_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la and_o whether_o the_o baptist_n do_v not_o better_o prove_v the_o antiquity_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o practice_n in_o baptism_n then_o any_o aedo_fw-la baptist_n in_o the_o world_n and_o do_v not_o your_o conscience_n tell_v you_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o contradiction_n while_o m._n baxter_n himself_o confess_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v so_o difficult_a that_o many_o of_o its_o assertor_n both_o protestant_n and_o papist_n be_v force_v to_o confess_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n see_v his_o cure_n p._n 7._o and_o see_v you_o and_o we_o be_v general_o agree_v that_o our_o way_n both_o for_o subject_n and_o manner_n be_v out_o of_o dispute_n clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o you_o confess_v by_o the_o pen_n of_o mr._n baxter_n that_o you_o be_v very_o difficult_a be_v it_o not_o reason_v the_o difficult_a way_n shall_v give_v place_n to_o the_o clear_a and_o evident_a way_n presbyterian_a query_n 41._o whether_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v any_o one_o infant_n of_o true_a church-member_n that_o be_v not_o rightful_o a_o church-member_n himself_o from_o the_o creation_n till_o christ_n day_n or_o from_o the_o creation_n till_o this_o day_n except_o the_o anabaptist_n who_o reject_v the_o benefit_n who_o case_n we_o will_v not_o presume_v to_o determine_v baptist_n antiqu._n 41._o whether_o this_o query_n be_v not_o the_o same_o we_o have_v before_o and_o whether_o what_o be_v say_v to_o it_o may_v not_o also_o suffiee_n to_o this_o presbyterian_a query_n 42._o see_v that_o infant_n have_v be_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la church-member_n from_o the_o creation_n to_o this_o day_n as_o far_o as_o any_o record_n can_v lead_v we_o be_v it_o likely_a that_o the_o lord_n and_o head_n and_o all-sufficient_a governor_n of_o his_o church_n will_v have_v permit_v his_o church_n till_o now_o to_o be_v actual_o make_v up_o of_o such_o subject_n as_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n be_v disallow_v and_o suffer_v his_o church_n to_o be_v wrong_n frame_v till_o now_o or_o be_v it_o a_o reasonable_a modest_a and_o lawful_a undertake_n to_o go_v about_o now_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n to_o make_v god_n a_o new_a frame_v church_n as_o to_o the_o age_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o be_v it_o not_o more_o modest_a and_o safe_a to_o live_v quiet_o in_o a_o church_n of_o that_o frame_n as_o all_o the_o saint_n of_o heaven_n live_v in_o till_o the_o other_o day_n as_o a_o few_o anabaptist_n do_v attempt_v a_o alteration_n baptist_n antiqu._n 42._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o utter_o untrue_a that_o infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la i.e._n to_o be_v bring_v to_o partake_v of_o ordinance_n practical_a in_o the_o church_n save_v only_o from_o abraham_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o law_n and_o whether_o all_o the_o pedobaptist_n in_o the_o world_n have_v not_o hitherto_o be_v unable_a to_o show_v any_o one_o instance_n before_o abraham_n or_o since_o the_o law_n be_v abrogate_a so_o much_o as_o one_o infant_n admit_v to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o ●od_n according_a to_o what_o the_o scripture_n afford_v in_o thi●_n 〈◊〉_d and_o ●●●her_o it_o be_v not_o as_o modest_a in_o we_o to_o labour_v to_o restore_v baptism_n to_o its_o pure_a use_n in_o the_o church_n both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o manner_n of_o administration_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v for_o the_o protestant_n to_o do_v the_o like_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n also_o whether_o your_o pretend_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o the_o same_o figment_n with_o which_o the_o papist_n deceive_v themselves_o and_o other_o and_o how_o can_v you_o pretend_v the_o universal_a church_n when_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v on_o our_o side_n presbyterian_a query_n 43._o whether_o consider_v christ_n own_a infant-mem●●rship_a and_o his_o kind_a reception_n of_o infant_n and_o his_o chide_v those_o that_o will_v have_v keep_v they_o off_o and_o his_o offer_n of_o take_v in_o all_o the_o jewish_a nation_n matth._n 23._o 37._o and_o that_o they_o be_v break_v off_o by_o unbelief_n and_o consequent_o the_o seed_n of_o believer_n break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n universal_a and_o that_o whole_a household_n be_v oft_o say_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o paul_n pronounce_v believer_n child_n holy_a and_o that_o christ_n mat._n 28._o command_v his_o minister_n as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v to_o disciple_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o &_o c_o baptist_n antiqu._n 43._o whether_o christ_n infant_n church-membership_a do_v not_o pertain_v to_o the_o jewish_a church_n only_o gal._n 4._o 4._o bear_v under_o the_o law_n only_o etc