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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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〈◊〉_d in_o the_o sum_n of_o the_o conference_n before_o his_o majesty_n pa._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sum_z confer_v at_o hampton_n court_n januar._n 14._o 1603._o pag._n 75._o this_o be_v his_o constant_a resolution_n that_o no_o church_n ought_v further_o to_o separate_v itself_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n either_o in_o doctrine_n or_o ceremony_n than_o she_o have_v depart_v from_o herself_o when_o she_o be_v in_o her_o flourish_a and_o best_a estate_n and_o from_o christ_n her_o lord_n &_o head_n head_n aug._n d._n bapt._n c._n donat._n li._n 6._o ca._n 44._o ipsi_fw-la gentiles_n si_fw-la quid_fw-la divinum_fw-la &_o rectum_fw-la etc._n etc._n orig_n sup_v exod._n hom._n 11._o basil._n hexam_n hom._n 5._o clem._n alexand._n strom._n li._n 1._o 1._o symb._n othonis_n imp._n pax_fw-la cum_fw-la hominibus_fw-la cum_fw-la vitijs_fw-la bellum_fw-la bellum_fw-la there_o be_v difference_n between_o the_o mother-church_n which_o signify_v a_o church_n out_o of_o who_o womb_n all_o other_o 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&_o multis_fw-la vitijs_fw-la scatent_fw-la etc._n etc._n espenc_n sup_v 1._o timoth._n digress_v li._n 1._o ca._n 11._o pag._n 223._o argumentum_fw-la est_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la acta_fw-la non_fw-la ubiquè_fw-fr integra_fw-la esse_fw-la esse_fw-la paramo_n d._n orig._n inquisit_a lib._n 3._o d._n pontiff_a author_n in_o temporal_a q._n 1._o opinio_fw-la 1._o num_fw-la 95._o pag._n 436._o nec_fw-la curandum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr opinion_n &_o historia_fw-la eusebij_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sit_fw-la reprobara_fw-la ut_fw-la inquit_fw-la gelasius_n d._n 15._o c._n sancta_fw-la romana_fw-la vel_fw-la eo_fw-la quià_fw-la arrianus_n &_o arrianorum_n protector_n fuit_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d anal._n tom_n 1._o praefat_fw-la idem_fw-la anno_fw-la 395._o n._n 41._o &_o anno_o 400._o n._n 42._o idem_fw-la anno_fw-la 774._o n._n 10.12.13_o 〈◊〉_d anno_fw-la 996._o n._n 54._o idem_fw-la an._n 1048._o num_fw-la 1._o 1._o bannes_n 22._o quest_n 1._o be_v 10._o pa._n 58._o 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cap._n 7._o 〈◊〉_d arms