Selected quad for the lemma: ground_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
ground_n	faith_n	rule_n	scripture_n	4,181	5	6.7162	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77722	The faith of the Catholick church, concerning the Eucharist Invincibly proved by the argument used against the Protestants, in the books of the faith of the perpetuity, written by Mr. Arnaud. A translation from the French.	Bruzeau, Paul.	1687 (1687)	Wing B5241A; ESTC R231821	54,760	188

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