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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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command_n thou_o shall_v not_o eat_v for_o the_o lord_n say_v all_o soul_n be_v i_o both_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o son_n that_o soul_n that_o sin_v it_o shall_v die_v the_o son_n shall_v not_o bear_v the_o iniquity_n of_o the_o father_n etc._n etc._n ans._n first_o the_o prophet_n speak_v not_o in_o ezek._n 18.4_o etc._n etc._n of_o adam_n but_o of_o the_o late_a father_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o sin_v v_o 2._o but_o paul_n speak_v of_o adam_n who_o be_v not_o only_o a_o particular_a person_n as_o all_o other_o father_n in_o this_o case_n be_v but_o a_o universal_a man_n the_o root_n of_o all_o mankind_n and_o a_o figure_n of_o christ_n rom._n 5.14_o again_o the_o prophet_n speak_v of_o such_o son_n as_o be_v just_a and_o do_v not_o such_o like_a sin_n as_o their_o father_n do_v ezek._n 18.5.14_o etc._n etc._n but_o paul_n speak_v of_o we_o all_o as_o we_o be_v in_o adam_n unjust_a and_o sinner_n and_o guilty_a of_o our_o first_o father_n iniquity_n r●m_n 5.12.19_o so_o these_o two_o scripture_n the_o one_o speak_v of_o actual_a sin_n whi●h_o be_v eschew_v the_o other_o speak_v of_o original_a sin_n which_o we_o now_o can_v avoid_v speak_v not_o of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sin_n or_o estate_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o one_o expound_v a_o other_o three_o the_o prophet_n exempt_v the_o good_a child_n which_o eschew_v their_o father_n sinne_n from_o death_n ezek._n 18.9.17_o the_o apostle_n inwrap_v we_o all_o the_o son_n of_o adam_n in_o his_o sin_n and_o in_o death_n rom._n 5.12_o 14_o 17._o four_o the_o prophet_n speak_v general_o of_o the_o many_o sin_n which_o the_o father_n do_v and_o the_o son_n do_v not_o ezek._n 18.6.7.8.18_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o that_o one_o sin_n or_o offence_n by_o which_o we_o all_o be_v in_o adam_n loin_n be_v guilty_a rom._n 5.16_o but_o to_o this_o they_o both_o agree_v the_o prophet_n say_v the_o soul_n that_o sin_v it_o sh●ll_v die_v ezek._n 18_o 4_o the_o apostle_n say_v th●t_v all_o have_v sin_v to_o wit_n in_o adam_n loin_n therefore_o death_n pass_v upon_o all_o rom._n 5._o ●2_n hereby_o all_o wise_a man_n may_v see_v how_o impertinent_a a_o proof_n the_o anabaptist_n bring_v from_o ezek._n 18._o that_o adam_n sin_n bring_v not_o any_o soul_n to_o hell_n for_o adam_n sin_n bring_v sin_n and_o death_n upon_o all_o and_o hell_n be_v the_o death_n which_o be_v eternal_a it_o be_v bring_v by_o his_o sin_n upon_o all_o his_o posterity_n except_o through_o i●sus_n christ_n our_o lord_n they_o have_v eternal_a life_n which_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n rom._n 6.23_o further_o they_o answer_v and_o desire_v it_o may_v well_o be_v observe_v that_o mankind_n be_v only_o in_o adam_n in_o their_o bodily_a substance_n he_o be_v the_o father_n of_o our_o body_n in_o respect_n of_o matter_n but_o our_o form_n and_o soul_n come_v from_o god_n he_o be_v the_o father_n of_o our_o spirit_n heb._n 12.9_o eccles._n 12.7_o &_o 8_o 8_o that_o earthly_a matter_n be_v in_o adam_n of_o which_o our_o body_n be_v make_v etc._n etc._n thus_o and_o no_o otherwise_o be_v we_o in_o adam_n answ._n we_o observe_v it_o well_o and_o observe_v their_o error_n also_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o thus_o to_o wit_n in_o respect_n of_o our_o body_n only_o we_o be_v in_o adam_n and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o our_o soul_n no_o scripture_n teach_v they_o this_o but_o their_o own_o fancy_n for_o though_o our_o soul_n be_v not_o in_o all_o respect_n in_o adam_n as_o our_o body_n be_v to_o wit_n material_o yet_o in_o some_o respect_n to_o wit_n formal_o we_o be_v in_o adam_n both_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o i_o thus_o manifest_a adam_n beget_v seth_n in_o his_o own_o image_n gen._n 5_o abraham_n beget_v isaak_n etc._n etc._n math._n 1._o so_o body_n beget_v not_o body_n but_o man_n beget_v man_n and_o man_n consist_v of_o body_n and_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o part_n that_o constitute_v a_o man_n so_o man_n that_o be_v the_o whole_a not_o part_n of_o a_o man_n only_o be_v say_v to_o be_v bear_v of_o a_o woman_n job._n 14.1_o yea_o the_o 66_o soul_n whereby_o figurative_o be_v mean_v person_n consist_v of_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v say_v to_o come_v out_o of_o jacob_n thigh_n or_o loin_n gen._n 46.26_o and_o levi_n in_o the_o l●ynes_n of_o abraham_n be_v say_v to_o pay_v tithe_n heb_n 7.9_o 10._o now_o the_o body_n without_o the_o spirit_n be_v dead_a and_o therefore_o can_v pay_v tithe_n nor_o do_v any_o action_n and_o in_o the_o place_n and_o case_n in_o hand_n in_o adam_z all_z sind_z all_o die_v judgement_n come_v on_o all_o man_n to_o condemnation_n rom._n 5.12.18_o but_o the_o body_n without_o the_o soul_n sin_v not_o neither_o by_v nor_o shall_v be_v condemn_v therefore_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o man_n in_o adam_n otherwise_o then_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o body_n only_o so_o that_o th●se_a man_n special_a observation_n be_v nothing_o worth_a again_o they_o plead_v 115._o as_o god_n give_v no_o law_n to_o adam_n before_o he_o give_v he_o a_o soul_n of_o reason_n and_o understanding_n no_o more_o do_v he_o give_v to_o any_o of_o adam_n posterity_n a●y_a law_n till_o he_o give_v they_o soul_n of_o reason_n and_o understanding_n as_o in_o deut._n 11.2_o i_o speak_v not_o to_o your_o child_n which_o have_v neither_o know_v nor_o see_v etc._n etc._n answ._n first_o the_o word_n of_o moses_n to_o israel_n to_o who_o he_o propound_v the_o law_n be_v not_o to_o be_v compare_v with_o god_n law_n give_v to_o adam_n for_o the_o israelite_n be_v speak_v to_o personal_o adam_n general_o as_o a_o universal_a man_n the_o root_n of_o all_o mankine_z as_o before_o be_v prove_v second_o the_o covenant_n of_o moses_n law_n do_v also_o after_o a_o sort_n pertain_v to_o their_o child_n which_o then_o be_v not_o deut._n 29.14.15_o though_o it_o be_v actual_o teach_v th●m_o only_o which_o be_v present_a d●ut_o 11._o thir●ly_o the_o sin_n which_o paul_n treat_v of_o and_o death_n for_o sin_n be_v in_o the_o 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