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A12284	A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth.	Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622?	1623 (1623)	STC 226; ESTC S100100	65,025	70

command Thou shalt not eat for the Lord sayth All soules are mine both the soule of the father and the soule of the son that soule that sinneth it shall dye The son shall not beare the iniquitie of the father c. Ans. First the prophet speaketh not in Ezek. 18.4 c. of Adam but of the later fathers of the Iewes which sinned v. 2. but Paul speaketh of Adam who was not onely a particular person as all other fathers in this case are but an universall man the root of all mankind and a figure of Christ Rom. 5.14 Againe the Prophet speaketh of such sonns as are just and do not such like sins as their fathers did Ezek. 18.5.14 c. but Paul speaketh of us all as we are in Adam unjust and sinners and guiltie of our first fathers iniquitie R●m 5.12.19 So these two scriptures the one speaking of actuall sinnes vvhi●h are eschewed the other speaking of originall sinne which we now cannot avoyd speak not of one and the same sinne or estate and therefore doe not one expound an other Thirdly the Prophet exempteth the good children which eschew their fathers si●nes from death Ezek. 18.9.17 The Apostle inwrappeth us all the sonnes of Adam in his sinne and in death Rom. 5.12 14 17. Fourthly the Prophet speaketh generally of the many sinnes which the fathers did and the sonnes did not Ezek. 18.6.7.8.18 the Apostle speaketh of that one sinne or offence by vvhich we all being in Adams loynes are guiltie Rom. 5.16 But to this they both agree the Prophet sayth The soule that sinneth it sh●ll die Ezek. 18 4 the Apostle sayth th●t all haue sinned to vvit in Adams loynes therefore death pa●seth upon all Rom. 5. ●2 Hereby all vvise men may see how impertinent a proofe the Anabaptists bring from Ezek. 18. that Adams sinne brings not any soule to hell For Adams sinne bringing sinne and death upon all and hell being the death vvhich is eternall it is brought by his sinne upon all his posteritie except through I●sus Christ our Lord they haue eternall life which is the gift of God Rom. 6.23 Further they answer and desire it may well be observed that mankind was onely in Adam in their bodily substance he is the father of our bodies in respect of matter but our forme and soules came from God he is the father of our spirits Heb. 12.9 Eccles. 12.7 8 8 that earthly matter was in Adam of which our bodies are made c. thus and no otherwise were we in Adam Answ. We obserue it well and obserue their error also It is untrue that thus to wit in respect of our bodies onely we were in Adam and not in respect of our soules no scripture teacheth them this but their own fansie For though our soules were not in all respects in Adam as our bodies were to wit materially yet in some resp●ct to wit formally we were in Adam both body and soule which I thus manifest Adam begat Seth in his own image Gen. 5 Abraham begat Isaak c. Math. 1. so body begetteth not body but man begetteth man and man consisteth of body and soule which are the parts that constitute a man So man that is the whole not part of a man on●ly is sayd to be borne of a woman Iob. 14.1 yea the 66 soules whereby figuratiuely is meant persons consisting of bodies and soules are sayd to come out of Iakobs thigh or loynes Gen. 46.26 and Levi in the l●ynes of Abraham is sayd to pay tythes Heb 7.9 10. Now the body without the spirit is dead and therefore cannot pay tythes nor do any action And in the place and case in hand in Adam all sinned all died judgement came on all men to condemnation Rom. 5.12.18 but the body without the soule sinneth not neither ●yeth nor shall bee condemned Therefore it is apparant that the scripture speaketh of men in Adam otherwise then in respect of their bodies onely so that th●se mens speciall observation is nothing worth Againe they plead As God gaue no law to Adam before hee gaue him a soule of reason and understanding no m●re doth he giue to any of Adams posteritie a●y law till he giue them soules of reason and understanding as in Deut. 11.2 I speak not to your children which haue neither known nor seen c. Answ. First the words of Moses to Israel to whom he propounded the law are not to be compared with Gods law given to Adam for the Israelites were spoken to personally Adam generally as an universall man the root of all mankine as before is proved Secondly the covenant of Moses law did also after a sort pertaine to their children which then were not Deut. 29.14.15 though it was actually taught th●m onely which were present D●ut 11. Thir●ly the sin which Paul treateth of and death for sin was in the world before Moses law which these men speak of Rom. 5.12.13.14 Fourthly let all they say be given them yet it helpes them not for I haue before proved that we were all in Adam as living men not as dead corpses and so had soules of ●easo● and understanding in him originally even as we had bodies eyes eares c. in him originally though after a different manner as before is noted Further they say God never purposed to execute on Adam for that transgression condemnation to hell in that hee purposed to send Christ betwixt in whom Adam beleeving should be saved If Adam for his own sin was not condemned to hell without remedy shall any of his posteritie be sent to hell without remedy and that for his sin c. Answ. 1. The question in the first place is changed which is whether Adam and all his posteritie in him falling from God deserved not hell for their sinne This they deny not neither can disproue 2. As God purposed not to damne Adam for his sinne so neither purposed he to damne Noah for his drunkennesse Lot for his incest David for his adultery and murder c. but to giue th●m remedie by faith in Christ. Will they hereupon plead that other actuall drunkards murderers whoremongers deserue not damnation or shall not many such be damned for these sinnes 3. Though all infants for their natiue sinne and all men for their actuall sinnes deserue damnat●on yet never was it Gods purpose to damne all without remedy For Christ the second Adam giveth righteousnesse and life to all infants and old transgressors that are borne of him as the first Adam conveyed unrighteousnesse and death to all his ordinary naturall posteritie Yea grace here exceedeth for the judgement or guilt of originall sin was by one offence to condemnation but the free gift by Christ is of many offences unto justification Rom. 5.16 They object that condemnation is for not beleeving in Christ Ioh 3 19. 16 9. Mar. 16.16 Rom. 11.32 Answ. First th● Apostle sayth the wages of sin is death Rom. 6.23 therefore the wicked shall be condemned

boast of the excellencie of it is to no purpose for all men being corrupted with evill qualities Rom. 2. 3● how is it that any are changed into good but by the povver and grace of God vvhich is effectuall in all his elect The residue abide in their sinnes because God changeth not nor reneweth their harts and such he never elected unto life but ordained them of old unto condemnation Iude v ●4 Lastly they answer vvith absurd Sophistry saying that these vvords 1 Ioh 2 19 they went out from us is meant of lying spirits the Antichrists in those persons vvho once had the spirit of truth in them And the Apostle sayth they were never of us for v 21 no lye is of the truth For example say they the spirit of Hymeneus together vvith his person was in spirituall fellowship vvith Paul so long as he reteined faith a good conscience but having put avvay the spirit of truth and received a lying spirit he vvent out from them in that his spirit for or because it was never of them c. Will any say that the Pope himselfe is Antichrist in respect of his person or rather in regard of his spirit or spirituall power he hath Therfore all that this place proveth is that lying spirits or Antichrists in mens persons went out from the truth and were never of the truth and therfore serveth nothing to proue that the elect can never fall away Answ. Was ever plaine scripture more violently wrested by any heretick The Apostle sayth of the many Antichrists they went out from us but they were not of us 1 Ioh. 2 18 19. This these men will not haue to be meant of their persons but of their spirits in their persons And what understand they by their spirits their lyes their errors their spirituall power such as the Pope hath that is as before they distinguished their wicked qualities not their persons for God they say loveth all persons they being his generation Act. 17.27 First it is an errour to say God hateth not the persons of wicked men but the evill qualities in them onely for though hee hateth no creature in respect of their creation which was good yet the creature being degenerate and fallen from God he hateth their wickednesse and them also for it as the Scripture plainely witnesseth Psal. 5.4.5.6 11 5. 2 It is erroneous to say that by Spirits the Apostle meaneth not persons but qualities 1 Ioh. 4.1 for himselfe sheweth his meaning when he saith because many false Prophets are gone out into the world So by Spirits to be tried he meaneth Prophets which came with spirituall gifts and it is frequent in Scripture to call subjects or persons by the name of adjuncts or qualities in them as I am against thee ê pride Ier. 50 31 that is ô thou most proud● and pride shall stumble and fall v. 32 that is the proud person the poverty of the land 2 King 24 14 15 the poorest people Deceit or Sloth rosteth not that which he took in hunting Prov. 14 27 that is the deceitfull man and many the like 3 It is from the deepness● of Familisme to say that Antichrists are not persons but evil qualities in men so Christ may be holden no person but a godly quality in us The Apostle speaketh of the person for he saith not the lye but the lyer he that denyeth that Iesus is the Christ he is Antichrist 1 Ioh. 2.22 4 It is an absurd exposition of 1 Ioh 2 19 to put qualities for persons He there sp●aketh of Antichrists They went out fro● us these men will haue it evill or Antichristian qualities went out from us Bu● what sense then will they make of the last branch of the verse That they might be made manifest that they were not all of us Will they say some Antichristian qualities were of the Apostles though not all The meaning is evident that in the Church are persons some good some bad some elect some reprobate● but whiles they abide and walk together in the Church it is not manifest who are of the Church who are not but when the wicked and reprobates depart from th● truth and Church then it is manifest that such Apostates though for a time in the Church yet were never of it So it is a sure proofe that Gods elect are both in and of the Church of Christ and shall never fall away utterly from it Of Freewill THis point these adversaries hand●e confusedly and maliciously Confusedly because they shew not what they meane by freewill or freedome of will whether free from compulsion or free from bondage of sinne M●liciously for that they feigne the Calvinists to hold that the wicked are not onely lift by Gods suffring but compelled to sinne by power c. compelled by the power force and compulsion of Gods predestination to commit all those wicked crimes for which they are punished by the Magistrate or tormented in hell c. and then much more doth it in goodnesse as violent●y work all so that the godly can neither chuse nor refuse goodnesse Answ. If these adversaries haue common honestie let them shew out of the writings of the Calvinists as they call them these assertions which they impute unto them Till they doe this let them haue their name and fame among lyers and workers of iniquity As for us we abhorre these doctrines of compulsion to sin by force and power of Gods predestination c. As for will in man we know it to be a naturall facultie still remaining though corrupted by sin as all oth●r like faculties in us We acknowledge it still to be free from compulsion or constreynt for so will should be no vvill But we confesse with grei●e that in respect of bondage to sinne under which all m●n were sold Rom. 7 14. it may rather be called Bond will then Free will for it is not free to refuse sin untill it be renued by Christ and so far as it is regenerate by him it is againe as other powers and faculties in the Saints freed by grace and willeth things that are good Againe they produce to their owne condemnation out of Bastingius and the Disput. in Geneva these words Man by evill was spoyled not of his will but of the soundnesse of his will therefore that which in nature was good in quality became evill and Bernard teacheth there is in us all power to will but to will well we had need to profite better to will evill we are able already by reason of our fall The which if they would stand unto saith this adversarie I would require no more Answ. This we will stand unto and thereby doe evince Odegos to be a blinde guide and vaine disputer that with lyes and calumnies would disgrace his opposites We grant evill Free-will or Free will to evill is remaining in all naturall men we beleeue that freewill to good is from grace and regeneration and that all the Saints