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A69095 The third part of the Defence of the Reformed Catholike against Doct. Bishops Second part of the Reformation of a Catholike, as the same was first guilefully published vnder that name, conteining only a large and most malicious preface to the reader, and an answer to M. Perkins his aduertisement to Romane Catholicks, &c. Whereunto is added an aduertisement for the time concerning the said Doct. Bishops reproofe, lately published against a little piece of the answer to his epistle to the King, with an answer to some few exceptions taken against the same, by M. T. Higgons latley become a proselyte of the Church of Rome. By R. Abbot Doctor of Diuinitie.; Defence of the Reformed Catholicke of M. W. Perkins. Part 3 Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1609 (1609) STC 50.5; ESTC S100538 452,861 494

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purpose_n he_o misinforce_v the_o testimony_n of_o epiphanius_n whereby_o he_o will_v exempt_v aerius_n from_o the_o crime_n of_o heresy_n just_o lay_v unto_o his_o charge_n by_o s._n austin_n and_o many_o other_o but_o i_o answer_v he_o that_o though_o as_o a_o man_n i_o may_v be_v deceive_v yet_o god_n have_v give_v i_o more_o grace_n than_o that_o in_o these_o matter_n i_o will_v willing_o deceive_v myself_o in_o this_o matter_n of_o epiphanius_n i_o do_v not_o take_v myself_o in_o any_o sort_n to_o be_v deceive_v his_o conclusion_n against_o aerius_n as_o touch_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v this_o seductor_n this_o epiphan_n haer_fw-mi 75._o ecclesia_fw-la necess●r●ò_fw-la hoc_fw-la perficit_fw-la traditione_n à_fw-la patribus_fw-la accepta_fw-la quis_fw-la autem_fw-la poterit_fw-la staturum_fw-la matris_fw-la dissoluere_fw-la aut_fw-la legem_fw-la patris_fw-la velut_fw-la solomon_n dicit_fw-la audi_fw-la fili_fw-la fermones_fw-la patris_fw-la tui_fw-la &_o ne_fw-la repudies_fw-la statuta_fw-la matris_fw-la tuus_fw-la ostendens_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la quòd_fw-la &_o in_fw-la scriptu_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la scripto_fw-la decuit_fw-la pater_fw-la mater_fw-la autem_fw-la nostra_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la habet_fw-la statuta_fw-la in_o se_fw-la posita_fw-la indissolubilia_fw-la quae_fw-la dissolui_fw-la non_fw-la p●ssunt●●_n cùm_fw-la itaque_fw-la ordi_fw-la nata_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la statuta_fw-la &_o benè_fw-la se_fw-la habeant_fw-la &_o omne_fw-la mirab●ittèr_fw-la fiant_fw-la confuta●us_fw-la est_fw-la tursus_fw-la etiam_fw-la hic_fw-la seductor_n the_o church_n necessary_o do_v this_o by_o tradition_n receive_v from_o the_o father_n and_o who_o may_v dissolve_v the_o statute_n of_o his_o mother_n or_o the_o law_n of_o his_o father_n as_o solomon_n say_v my_o son_n hear_v thy_o father_n word_n and_o refuse_v not_o thy_o mother_n statute_n hereby_o show_v that_o both_o in_o writing_n and_o without_o write_v the_o father_n have_v teach_v 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without_o scripture_n teach_v we_o by_o the_o church_n and_o if_o he_o mean_v any_o otherwise_o but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n very_o vain_o and_o idle_o do_v he_o here_o name_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n but_o m._n higgon_n will_v say_v that_o though_o epiphanius_n name_v it_o thus_o a_o tradition_n and_o a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o he_o mean_v it_o to_o be_v such_o a_o tradition_n and_o ordinance_n as_o be_v from_o the_o apostle_n but_o let_v he_o mean_v what_o he_o will_v yet_o so_o long_o as_o he_o make_v it_o a_o tradition_n without_o scripture_n my_o word_n stand_v good_a which_o i_o use_v to_o m._n bishop_n 80._o bishop_n answer_v to_o doct._n bishop_n epistle_n sect_n 10._o pag._n 79._o 80._o epiphanius_n resolve_v we_o that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v a_o matter_n of_o tradition_n and_o a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o free_v we_o from_o any_o trespass_n against_o any_o thing_n that_o moses_n 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dicimus_fw-la proprietatem_fw-la uniuscuiusque_fw-la substantiae_fw-la vel_fw-la naturae_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la manere_fw-la perpetuam_fw-la we_o say_v that_o the_o propriety_n of_o each_o substance_n or_o nature_n abide_v continual_o in_o christ_n understand_v still_o by_o nature_n the_o same_o that_o he_o do_v by_o substance_n as_o he_o have_v say_v before_o dicatur_fw-la before_o ibi._n substantia_fw-la nulla_fw-la est_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la natura_fw-la dicatur_fw-la there_o be_v no_o substance_n but_o it_o be_v call_v nature_n even_o as_o austin_n say_v naturae_fw-la say_v august_n count_n julian._n li._n 1._o ca._n 3._o natura_fw-la est_fw-la ipsa_fw-la substantia_fw-la &_o cont_n serm_n arianor_n c._n 36._o vnius_fw-la eiusdemque_fw-la substantiae_fw-la vel_fw-la ut_fw-la expressiùs_fw-la dicamus_fw-la essentiae_fw-la quod_fw-la plantùs_fw-la dicitur_fw-la unius_fw-la eiusdemque_fw-la naturae_fw-la the_o nature_n be_v the_o very_a substance_n and_o of_o one_o and_o the_o 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themselves_o under_o his_o name_n the_o conclusion_n do_v give_v token_n that_o it_o be_v he_o defendat_fw-la he_o ibid._n in_o fine_a hanc_fw-la regulam_fw-la catholicae_fw-la fidei_fw-la etc._n etc._n cùm_fw-la sedem_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la vestram_fw-la dilectio_fw-la unanimitèr_fw-la teneat_fw-la constantèr_fw-la praedicet_fw-la sapien_fw-fr tèrque_fw-la defendat_fw-la see_v you_o belove_a do_v with_o one_o mind_n hold_v fast_o the_o apostolic_a sea_n therefore_o constant_o preach_v and_o wise_o defend_v this_o rule_n of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n yea_o and_o that_o very_a fragment_n which_o we_o now_o have_v be_v cite_v by_o 557._o by_o bibliot_n sanct_n patr._n edit_n 2._o jom_n 4._o pa._n 557._o john_n the_o first_o his_o successor_n soon_o after_o to_o the_o same_o very_a purpose_n whereto_o he_o write_v it_o which_o alone_o be_v sufficient_a for_o approbation_n thereof_o again_o i_o cite_v 35.35_o cite_v pag._n 35.35_o theodoret_n make_v mention_n that_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n do_v forbid_v to_o pray_v to_o angel_n or_o to_o worship_v they_o and_o i_o allege_v austin_n note_v they_o for_o heretic_n that_o do_v so_o to_o s._n austin_n m._n bishop_n answer_v nothing_o at_o all_o with_o who_o as_o i_o cite_v they_o be_v record_v for_o heretic_n and_o term_v inclinati_fw-la term_v august_n ad_fw-la quod_fw-la vultd_v haer_fw-mi 39_o angeliciin_n angelorum_fw-la cultu_fw-la inclinati_fw-la angelici_fw-la who_o be_v bow_v down_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n how_o trim_o he_o answer_v to_o theodoret_n and_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n shall_v be_v the_o better_o discern_v if_o i_o first_o set_v down_o the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n himself_o who_o handle_v the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n 2.18_o apostle_n col_fw-fr 2.18_o let_v no_o man_n at_o his_o pleasure_n be_v be_v rule_v over_o you_o by_o humbleness_n of_o mind_n and_o worship_v of_o angel_n say_v thus_o angelorum_fw-la thus_o theodoret._n in_o col._n 2._o qui_fw-fr le●_n g●m_fw-la defendebant_fw-la eos_fw-la etiam_fw-la ad_fw-la angelos_fw-la ●olendos_fw-la inducebant_fw-la dicentes_fw-la fuisse_fw-la legem_fw-la per_fw-la eos_fw-la datam_fw-la mansit_fw-la autem_fw-la diu_fw-la hoc_fw-la vitium_fw-la in_o phrygia_n &_o pisidia_n quocircae_fw-la synodus_fw-la quoque_fw-la quae_fw-la convenit_fw-la laodiceae_n quae_fw-la est_fw-la phrygiae_fw-la metropolis_n lege_fw-la prohibuit_fw-la ne_fw-la precaerentur_fw-la angelos_n et_fw-la in_o hodiernum_fw-la usque_fw-la diem_fw-la licet_fw-la videre_fw-la apud_fw-la illos_fw-la &_o eorum_fw-la finitimos_fw-la oratoria_fw-la sancti_fw-la michaelis_fw-la illi_fw-la ergò_fw-la hos_fw-la consulebant_fw-la humilitate_fw-la utentes_fw-la dicentes_fw-la universorum_fw-la deum_fw-la nec_fw-la cerni_fw-la nec_fw-la comprehend_v nec_fw-la perveniri_fw-la ad_fw-la eum_fw-la posse_fw-la &_o oportere_fw-la per_fw-la angelos_n divinam_fw-la sibi_fw-la henevolentiam_fw-la conciliare_fw-la hoc_fw-la antem_fw-la dixit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la in_o humilitate_fw-la &_o cultu_fw-la angelorum_fw-la they_o who_o defend_v the_o law_n do_v induce_v they_o the_o colossian_n to_o worship_n angel_n say_v that_o the_o law_n be_v give_v by_o they_o and_o this_o corruption_n continue_v long_o in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n wherefore_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n the_o chief_a city_n of_o phrygia_n do_v by_o decree_n forbid_v to_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o even_o to_o this_o day_n we_o may_v see_v among_o they_o and_o other_o near_o to_o they_o chapel_n of_o s._n michael_n and_o this_o they_o persuade_v pretend_v humility_n say_v that_o the_o lord_n of_o all_o may_v not_o be_v see_v nor_o comprehend_v nor_o come_v unto_o and_o that_o by_o the_o angel_n we_o must_v procure_v or_o obtain_v the_o good_a will_n or_o favour_n of_o god_n and_o this_o say_v he_o the_o apostle_n mean_v by_o humility_n and_o worship_n of_o angel_n and_o what_o do_v m._n bishop_n now_o say_v to_o this_o the_o council_n forsooth_o mean_v it_o 238._o it_o reproof_n pag._n 238._o of_o leave_v our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n to_o commit_v idolatry_n to_o the_o angel_n prefer_v the_o angel_n before_o he_o but_o theodoret_n know_v well_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n theodoret_n know_v the_o occasion_n of_o that_o decree_n namely_o a_o superstition_n bring_v in_o by_o the_o false_a apostle_n to_o worship_n angel_n and_o to_o pray_v to_o they_o