Selected quad for the lemma: faith_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
faith_n	church_n	invisible_a	visible_a	9,700	5	9.4455	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A29084	A defence of the Kings authority and supremacy in the church & church-discipline and that he is supream head and governour over all persons, in all causes ecclesiastical : against these disciplinarians, the Pope and his clergy, the bishops and episcoparians, the Scottish and English Presbyterians, with the independents ... / by Theophilus Brabourne.	Brabourne, Theophilus, b. 1590.	1660 (1660)	Wing B4091; ESTC R25285	18,498	27

only_o endeavour_v to_o set_v the_o saddle_n on_o the_o right_a horse_n say_v it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o magistrate_n not_o of_o the_o bishop_n or_o minister_n these_o thing_n premise_v now_o i_o come_v to_o my_o task_n and_o shall_v handle_v by_o sundry_a question_n and_o answer_n thereunto_o draw_v near_o and_o near_o unto_o it_o by_o little_a and_o little_a until_o i_o come_v to_o the_o main_a the_o consideration_n whereof_o may_v prove_v useful_a to_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n for_o desire_v they_o i_o do_v to_o be_v cautious_a of_o put_v their_o own_o sword_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o clergy_n lest_o they_o turn_v the_o point_n of_o it_o against_o magistrate_n have_v not_o the_o scot_n excommunicate_v their_o king_n and_o may_v not_o our_o bishop_n if_o true_a to_o their_o principle_n do_v the_o same_o to_o any_o member_n in_o parliament_n or_o magistrate_n in_o the_o kingdom_n yea_o to_o the_o king_n himself_o as_o i_o shall_v prove_v before_o i_o have_v do_v and_o so_o i_o come_v to_o the_o question_n 1._o quest_n who_o be_v the_o church_n i_o answ_v not_o the_o clergy_n only_o but_o the_o laiety_n &_o clergy_n both_o not_o exclude_v but_o include_v the_o magistrate_n for_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o only_o a_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n but_o also_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n he_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n as_o well_o as_o the_o minister_n for_o he_o be_v of_o and_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o minister_n and_o so_o much_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o word_n ecclesiastical_a wherefore_o you_o may_v not_o object_v against_o the_o magistrate_n say_v he_o may_v not_o meddle_v with_o excommunication_n because_o he_o be_v a_o layman_n for_o we_o must_v know_v that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n as_o well_o as_o the_o minister_n but_o you_o will_v say_v the_o minister_n be_v a_o spiritual_a man_n so_o be_v not_o the_o magistrate_n i_o answ_v he_o be_v a_o spiritual_a man_n that_o mind_v spiritual_a thing_n and_o lead_v a_o spiritual_a life_n rom._n 8.1_o 5._o rom._n 7.6_o now_o god_n be_v praise_v for_o it_o we_o have_v many_o magistrate_n who_o be_v spiritual_a man_n and_o lead_v a_o spiritual_a life_n and_o many_o thousand_o of_o common_a people_n who_o be_v so_o too_o but_o bishop_n and_o clergyman_n and_o the_o pope_n will_v be_v the_o spiritual_a man_n and_o magistrate_n and_o other_o must_v be_v the_o carnal_a man_n whereas_o i_o say_v even_o now_o the_o laiety_n and_o clergy_n i_o shall_v be_v quarrel_v with_o by_o the_o clergy_n for_o give_v the_o priority_n to_o the_o laiety_n and_o not_o to_o the_o clergy_n as_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n now_o i_o grant_v that_o it_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n ever_o since_o there_o be_v a_o pope_n and_o ever_o since_o the_o pope_n exalt_v himself_o above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n that_o be_v above_o the_o magistrate_n 2_o thes_n 2.4_o and_o see_v psal_n 82.6_o and_o this_o popish_a custom_n will_v bishop_n and_o clergyman_n uphold_v still_o but_o be_v not_o the_o king_n parliament_z and_o magistrate_n lay_v person_n as_o they_o call_v they_o and_o be_v not_o these_o above_o the_o clergy_n if_o these_o than_o be_v above_o bishop_n and_o clergyman_n these_o must_v have_v the_o priority_n as_o well_o as_o superiority_n and_o therefore_o i_o say_v the_o laiety_n and_o clergy_n to_o say_v otherwise_o be_v popish_a and_o tend_v to_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n quest_n 2._o how_o be_v the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v qualify_v i_o answ_v not_o speak_v of_o the_o invisible_a but_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n on_o earth_n these_o must_v have_v faith_n and_o repentance_n or_o at_o least_o a_o profession_n of_o these_o now_o that_o this_o latter_a make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n i_o thus_o prove_v it_o 1._o baptism_n be_v the_o door_n into_o the_o church_n and_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v be_v enter_v into_o the_o church_n and_o admit_v as_o member_n of_o the_o church_n now_o john_n the_o baptist_n baptize_v a_o great_a multitude_n as_o jerusalem_n and_o all_o judea_n and_o all_o the_o country_n about_o jordan_n upon_o confession_n of_o their_o sin_n mat._n 3.5_o 6._o now_o john_n can_v not_o know_v any_o more_o of_o these_o than_o their_o verbal_a profession_n and_o yet_o he_o admit_v they_o into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n 2._o the_o 3000._o convert_v and_o baptize_v by_o peter_n and_o so_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n he_o can_v know_v no_o more_o of_o they_o then_o their_o external_a profession_n by_o submission_n to_o his_o baptism_n and_o by_o say_v man_n and_o brethren_n what_o shall_v we_o do_v which_o be_v but_o word_n true_o the_o text_n say_v they_o be_v prick_v in_o heart_n act_v 2.37_o but_o how_o can_v peter_n know_v this_o save_v by_o their_o word_n and_o submission_n to_o his_o baptism_n both_o which_o be_v external_a the_o text_n say_v vers_fw-la 45._o they_o sell_v their_o possession_n to_o give_v to_o the_o poor_a yet_o ananias_n be_v a_o liar_n act_v 5.1_o etc._n etc._n see_v 1_o john_n 2.19_o &_o mat._n 13.20_o further_o the_o people_n of_o laodicea_n be_v a_o church_n rev._n 3.14_o yet_o many_o of_o they_o have_v but_o external_a profession_n simon_n the_o sorcerer_n be_v baptize_v and_o so_o make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n act_v 8.13_o and_o judas_n be_v a_o member_n of_o christ_n family_n and_o church_n by_o the_o way_n note_n that_o there_o be_v a_o superstitious_a niceness_n in_o some_o who_o will_v not_o admit_v one_o a_o member_n of_o their_o church_n without_o a_o month_n trial_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v after_o the_o doctrine_n and_o commandment_n of_o man_n col._n 2.22_o 23._o not_o after_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n the_o baptist_n to_o return_v if_o a_o magistrate_n have_v but_o a_o outward_a profession_n he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n as_o well_o as_o a_o minister_n let_v none_o therefore_o say_v he_o be_v a_o layman_n and_o therefore_o he_o may_v not_o meddle_v with_o excommunication_n as_o a_o minister_n may_v quest_n 3._o be_v a_o magistrate_n a_o elder_a and_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n i_o answ_v he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o elder_a and_o ruler_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n but_o also_o of_o the_o church_n this_o late_a i_n thus_o prove_v these_o call_v the_o elder_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o people_n of_o this_o commonwealth_n numb_a 11.16_o 24._o be_v ruler_n of_o the_o church_n also_o for_o moses_n command_v aaron_n the_o chief_a priest_n to_o offer_v incense_n which_o be_v a_o church-matter_n numb_a 16.46_o king_n hezekiah_n do_v the_o like_a 2_o chron._n 31.2_o king_n david_n do_v so_o too_o 1_o chron._n 16.7_o and_o also_o king_n josiah_n 2_o king_n 23.4_o and_o 2_o chron._n 35_o 15.1_o 2_o 3_o etc._n etc._n thing_n write_v afore-time_o be_v write_v for_o our_o learning_n rom._n 15.4_o hence_o it_o follow_v 1._o if_o therefore_o a_o magistrate_n be_v a_o ruler_n of_o the_o church_n why_o may_v not_o he_o punish_v the_o scandalous_a sinner_n in_o the_o church_n and_o that_o with_o any_o punishment_n suitable_a to_o the_o offence_n be_v it_o by_o their_o punishment_n of_o excommunication_n or_o any_o other_o punishment_n it_o be_v in_o vain_a for_o he_o to_o command_v if_o he_o may_v not_o punish_v 2_o if_o a_o lay-elder_n be_v he_o the_o bishop_n chancellor_n or_o the_o minister_n elder_n may_v punish_v with_o excommunication_n why_o may_v not_o the_o magistrate_n do_v so_o too_o though_o you_o call_v he_o a_o layman_n but_o you_o will_v say_v the_o lay-elder_n do_v it_o not_o alone_o but_o with_o the_o minister_n answ_n if_o he_o do_v it_o with_o another_o yet_o he_o do_v it_o though_o not_o alone_o the_o chief_a priest_n and_o elder_n together_o put_v christ_n to_o death_n yet_o we_o may_v say_v and_o speak_v true_o the_o elder_n put_v christ_n to_o death_n quest_n 4._o do_v you_o make_v two_o church_n in_o one_o common_a wealth_n the_o one_o of_o the_o magistrate_n the_o other_o of_o the_o minister_n i_o answ_v yea_o for_o they_o hold_v the_o congregation_n and_o assembly_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n in_o the_o parish-house_n to_o be_v one_o church_n and_o i_o shall_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v another_o church_n as_o in_o the_o senate-house_n or_o common_a hall_n where_o the_o magistrate_n and_o people_n be_v congregat_v and_o assemble_v for_o matter_n of_o justice_n for_o the_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la translate_v a_o church_n signifi_v a_o congregation_n or_o a_o assembly_n of_o people_n act_v 7.38_o act_n 19.32_o 39_o 41._o now_o the_o magistrate_n and_o people_n in_o the_o senate-house_n be_v a_o congregation_n and_o a_o assembly_n of_o people_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v a_o church_n and_o all_o

of_o they_o be_v ecclesiastical_a person_n of_o and_o belong_v to_o this_o church_n as_o the_o magistrate_n and_o people_n be_v a_o church_n so_o they_o be_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o they_o be_v all_o christian_n profess_v christ_n and_o faith_n in_o christ_n and_o they_o be_v also_o a_o church_n of_o god_n for_o their_o authority_n be_v of_o and_o from_o god_n rom._n 13.1_o and_o they_o assemble_v in_o their_o hall_n to_o serve_v god_n the_o magistrate_n by_o rule_v for_o god_n and_o in_o his_o place_n the_o people_n to_o be_v rule_v by_o god_n and_o his_o righteous_a law_n the_o magistrate_n court_n therefore_o be_v a_o church_n of_o god_n why_o shall_v any_o say_v or_o think_v that_o it_o be_v a_o unfit_a place_n for_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n may_v it_o not_o soon_o be_v as_o fit_v a_o place_n as_o the_o chancellor_n or_o bishop_n consistory_n another_o quest_n of_o these_o two_o church_n which_o be_v great_a papist_n say_v the_o clergy_n church_n so_o they_o say_v bishop_n too_o for_o they_o say_v church_n and_o state_n but_o we_o ought_v to_o give_v priority_n and_o superiority_n to_o the_o state_n and_o say_v state_n and_o church_n for_o moses_n command_v aaron_n and_o so_o do_v king_n the_o priest_n to_o speak_v otherwise_o give_v priority_n to_o the_o church_n be_v popish_a and_o tend_v to_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o king_n supremacy_n quest_n 5._o be_v the_o magistrate_n be_v no_o divine_a how_o can_v he_o know_v who_o be_v fit_a or_o not_o fit_a to_o be_v excommunicate_v i_o answ_v how_o can_v two_o or_o three_o lay-elders_a know_v who_o be_v fit_a and_o who_o not_o be_v they_o be_v no_o divine_n and_o how_o can_v the_o bishop_n chancellor_n know_v who_o be_v fit_a and_o not_o fit_a for_o he_o be_v no_o divine_a 2._o as_o for_o scandalous_a sin_n as_o adultery_n drunkenness_n swear_v and_o such_o like_a be_v all_o matter_n of_o fact_n the_o magistrate_n know_v they_o as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n or_o minister_n for_o the_o magistrate_n do_v daily_o punish_v these_o sin_n in_o his_o court._n as_o for_o fundamental_a doctrine_n be_v none_o be_v such_o but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v clear_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n and_o be_v they_o be_v daily_o preach_v on_o by_o our_o minister_n the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o these_o or_o if_o he_o be_v god_n have_v ordain_v the_o help_n of_o the_o minister_n by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advice_n but_o still_o so_o as_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n as_o judge_n to_o pass_v censure_n be_v still_o in_o the_o magistrate_n as_o you_o may_v read_v deut._n 17.8_o 9_o 10_o 11._o as_o for_o point_n disputable_a not_o clear_o reveal_v in_o scripture_n i_o hold_v that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o these_o for_o if_o he_o be_v the_o innocent_a may_v be_v punish_v as_o soon_o as_o the_o wicked_a and_o therefore_o the_o magistrate_n need_v not_o meddle_v with_o such_o point_n but_o only_o with_o sin_n clear_o reveal_v to_o be_v sin_n as_o incest_n 1_o cor._n 5.1_o etc._n etc._n and_o by_o like_a reason_n swear_v drunkenness_n and_o the_o like_a whereas_o i_o say_v the_o magistrate_n may_v take_v the_o advice_n of_o the_o minister_n etc._n etc._n i_o mean_v his_o advice_n in_o a_o fundamental_a doctrine_n which_o be_v very_o clear_o a_o sin_n in_o scripture_n for_o else_o he_o may_v give_v wicked_a advice_n but_o as_o for_o a_o doubtful_a and_o disputable_a controversy_n wherein_o scripture_n be_v allege_v on_o both_o side_n it_o be_v not_o safe_a for_o the_o magistrate_n to_o condemn_v either_o side_n upon_o advice_n of_o the_o minister_n for_o a_o church_n may_v err_v a_o council_n may_v err_v and_o 10._o or_o 12._o minister_n may_v err_v too_o suppose_v therefore_o a_o point_n come_v before_o the_o magistrate_n which_o common_o be_v hold_v to_o be_v a_o error_n or_o heresy_n where_o will_v the_o magistrate_n find_v among_o the_o clergy_n competent_a and_o fit_a judge_n to_o determine_v it_o for_o the_o clergy_n hold_v the_o common_a opinion_n now_o if_o the_o magistrate_n call_v in_o to_o his_o help_n and_o advice_n ten_o or_o 12._o of_o the_o clergy_n will_v they_o not_o all_o advice_n for_o their_o own_o opinion_n and_o than_o they_o will_v be_v incompetent_a and_o partial_a judge_n do_v you_o think_v they_o will_v justify_v the_o accuse_a party_n and_o condemn_v themselves_o i_o dare_v say_v it_o that_o all_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n will_v condemn_v this_o book_n if_o not_o before_o they_o see_v it_o but_o the_o law_n permit_v no_o man_n to_o be_v a_o judge_n or_o a_o witness_n in_o his_o own_o cause_n when_o the_o clergy_n give_v judgement_n of_o a_o cause_n common_o hold_v by_o other_o and_o themselves_o to_o be_v a_o error_n or_o heresy_n they_o be_v like_o the_o high_a court_n of_o justice_n all_z or_o the_o major_a part_n come_v thither_o with_o a_o resolution_n to_o make_v a_o end_n of_o the_o king_n before_o they_o rise_v quest_n 6._o be_v the_o king_n next_o under_o christ_n supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n this_o question_n be_v out_o of_o question_n with_o i_o but_o be_v i_o hear_v of_o some_o minister_n beyond_o sea_n offend_v at_o this_o title_n and_o have_v read_v of_o some_o in_o england_n of_o like_a opinion_n i_o shall_v here_o prove_v the_o point_n and_o first_o by_o the_o law_n of_o our_o kingdom_n and_o then_o by_o the_o scripture_n 1._o the_o law_n of_o our_o kingdom_n do_v give_v unto_o our_o king_n this_o just_a and_o royal_a title_n to_o be_v supreme_a head_n under_o christ_n over_o all_o person_n and_o in_o all_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a or_o spiritual_a wherefore_o the_o king_n be_v supreme_a haad_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o all_o good_a subject_n must_v acknowledge_v he_o so_o to_o be_v rom._n 13.1_o 2._o i_o have_v before_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o king_n hezekiah_n david_n and_o josiah_n be_v ruler_n and_o governor_n over_o the_o church_n and_o in_o church-matter_n 2_o chron._n 31.2_o &_o 1_o chron._n 16.7_o &_o 2_o chron._n 35.1_o etc._n etc._n 2_o chron._n 35.15_o &_o 2_o king_n 23.4_o now_o those_o godly_a king_n be_v supreme_a in_o authority_n for_o there_o be_v none_o above_o or_o before_o they_o it_o be_v prophesy_v of_o that_o in_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n king_n shall_v be_v our_o nurse_n father_n isa_n 49.22_o 23._o now_o in_o our_o day_n though_o we_o have_v many_o magistrate_n of_o high_a authority_n yet_o none_o of_o they_o can_v or_o will_v challenge_v the_o supremacy_n but_o the_o king_n only_o 3._o see_v a_o pregnant_a text_n for_o it_o 1_o pet._n 2.13_o submit_v yourselves_o etc._n etc._n unto_o the_o king_n as_o unto_o the_o supreme_a so_o supremacy_n be_v the_o king_n just_a title_n now_o be_v it_o be_v so_o why_o do_v bishop_n say_v and_o write_v church_n and_o state_n as_o if_o the_o church_n and_o bishop_n be_v above_o the_o king_n where_o be_v then_o the_o king_n supremacy_n quest_n 7._o do_v the_o punishment_n of_o excommunication_n belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o his_o chancellor_n or_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o his_o lay-elders_a i_o answer_v negative_o this_o office_n belong_v not_o to_o any_o lay-elder_n who_o be_v not_o a_o magistrate_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n nor_o to_o any_o chancellor_n who_o be_v a_o layman_n and_o no_o magistrate_n the_o contrary_a i_o expect_v to_o see_v bishop_n or_o minister_n to_o prove_v if_o they_o can_v and_o i_o answer_v concern_v bishop_n or_o minister_n alone_o without_o their_o elder_n or_o assistant_n and_o i_o deny_v also_o that_o this_o office_n do_v belong_v to_o a_o bishop_n or_o a_o minister_n the_o contrary_a lie_n upon_o both_o of_o they_o to_o prove_v if_o they_o can_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o thus_o prove_v against_o they_o 1._o excommunication_n be_v a_o punishment_n so_o confess_v by_o all_o man_n and_o so_o call_v in_o scripture_n 2_o cor._n 2.6_o and_o a_o punishment_n be_v a_o revenge_n or_o take_v vengeance_n on_o they_o that_o do_v evil_a rom._n 13.4_o now_o bishop_n and_o minister_n may_v not_o punish_v and_o revenge_n for_o this_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n rom._n 13.4_o not_o to_o a_o bishop_n or_o minister_n st._n paul_n say_v a_o bishop_n must_v be_v no_o striker_n 1_o tim._n 3.3_o now_o i_o know_v not_o why_o a_o bishop_n may_v not_o as_o well_o strike_v with_o his_o hand_n or_o fist_n as_o punish_v and_o take_v vengeance_n on_o any_o man_n by_o excommunication_n their_o distinction_n of_o corporal_a and_o spiritual_a punishment_n will_v not_o help_v they_o as_o you_o shall_v see_v in_o the_o next_o quest_n 2._o the_o office_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v to_o summon_v into_o his_o court_n these_o scandalous_a sinner_n the_o adulterer_n swearer_n drunkard_n and_o the_o like_a and_o in_o his_o