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in_o that_o time_n conspicuous_a or_o visible_a to_o the_o world_n conclude_v 400._o conclude_v in_o exposit_n symb_n p._n 400._o perkins_n permit_v i_o to_o ask_v by_o what_o iniquity_n be_v poor_a soul_n feed_v or_o rather_o starve_a with_o falsity_n and_o to_o conclude_v with_o that_o strong_o reason_v tertullian_n in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n say_v who_o be_v you_o when_o and_o whence_o come_v you_o what_o do_v you_o do_v in_o my_o possession_n be_v none_o of_o i_o by_o what_o right_o do_v thou_o o_o martion_n o_o protestant_a cut_n down_o my_o wood_n by_o what_o prerogative_n do_v thou_o o_o valentine_n diverte_v my_o fountain_n by_o what_o authority_n do_v thou_o o_o apelles_n transport_v my_o bound_n this_o possession_n be_v i_o why_o presume_v you_o be_v stranger_n to_o feed_v and_o sow_v herein_o at_o your_o pleasure_n the_o possession_n be_v i_o i_o possess_v it_o of_o old_a i_o possess_v it_o first_o i_o have_v sure_a record_n or_o evidence_n from_z 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innocentius_n i._n zozymus_n bonifacius_n celestinus_fw-la i._o sixtus_n iii_o leo_fw-la magnus_fw-la hilarius_n simplicius_n felix_n iii_o celasius_fw-la i._o anastafius_fw-la ii_o symmachus_n the_o 6._o age._n hormisdas_n joan._n i._o fellix_fw-la iu._n bonifacius_n ii_o joannes_n ii_o agapitus_n silver_n we_o vigilius_n pelagius_n joanue_v iii_o benedictus_fw-la i._n pelagius_n ii_o gregorius_n magnus_fw-la the_o 7._o age._n sabinianus_n bonifacius_n iii_o bonifacius_n iu._n deusdedit_fw-la bonifacius_n v._n honorius_n i._n severinus_n joan._n iu._n theodorus_n martinus_n i._n eugenius_n vitatianus_n adeodatus_n donatus_n agatho_n leo_n benedictus_fw-la ii_o joan._n v._o conon_n sergius_n the_o 8._o age._n joannes_n vi._n joannes_n vii_o sisinnius_n constantinus_n gregorius_n ii_o gregorius_n iii_o zacharias_n stephanus_n ii_o stephanus_n iii_o paulus_n i._n stephanus_n iu._n adrianus_n leo_n iii_o the_o 9_o age._n steph._n v._o paschalis_fw-la eugenius_n ii_o valentinus_n gregorius_n iu._n sergius_n ii_o leo_n iu._n benedictus_fw-la iii_o nicol._n i._o hadrian_n ii_o joan._n viii_o martinus_n hadrianus_n iii_o stephanus_n vi._n formosus_fw-la bonifacius_n vi._n stephanus_n vii_o the_o 10._o age._n joan_n ix_o benedict_n leo_n christoph_n sergius_n anast_n lando_n joan_n x_o leo_n vi._n stephanus_n joannes_n leo_n vii_o stephanus_n martinus_n agapitus_n joannes_n leo_n benedictus_fw-la joannes_n donus_n benedictus_n benedictus_fw-la joannes_n joannes_n joannes_n gregorius_n v._n sylvester_n ii_o the_o 11._o age._n joannes_n xvii_o joannes_n xviii_o sergius_n v._o benedictus_fw-la viii_o joannes_n xx._n benedictus_fw-la ix_o gregorius_n vii_o clem._n damas_n leo_n vict._n steph._n ix_o nicol._n alexand._n greg_n vii_o vict._n vrban_n paschas_fw-la the_o 12._o age._n gelas_n calixtus_n honorius_n ii_o innocentius_n ii_o gelestinus_n ii_o lucius_n eugenius_n anastasius_n iu._n hadrlanus_n alexand._n lucius_n vrbanus_n gregorius_n viii_o clemens_n iii_o celestinus_fw-la iii_o innocentius_n iii_o the_o 13._o age._n honorius_n iii_o gregorius_n ix_o celestinus_fw-la iv_o innocentius_n iu._n alexander_n iu._n vrbanus_n iu._n clemens_n gregorius_n innocent_n hadrian_n nicol._n martinus_n honorius_n iu._n nicol._n celestinus_fw-la bonifacius_n viii_o the_o 14._o age._n benedictus_fw-la x_o clemens_n v._n joannes_n xxi_o benedictus_fw-la xi_o clemens_n vi._n innocentius_n vi._n vrbanus_n v._n gregorius_n xi_o vrbanus_n vi._n bonifacius_n ix_o the_o 15._o age._n innocentius_n vii_o gregorius_n xi_o alexander_n v._n joannes_n xxii_o martinus_n iii_o eugenius_n iu._n nicolaus_n v._n cailistus_n iii_o pius_fw-la ii_o paulus_n ii_o sixtus_n innocent_n vii_o alexander_n vi._n the_o 16._o age._n pius_fw-la iii_o julius_n leo_n hadrianus_n clemens_n paulus_n julius_n marcellus_n paulus_n iu._n pius_fw-la iu_o pius_fw-la v._o gregorius_n xiii_o sixtus_n v._o vrban_n vii_o gregorius_n fourteen_o innocentius_n ix_o clemens_n viii_o the_o 17._o age._n leo_fw-la xi_o paulus_n v._n gregorius_n xv._o vrbanus_n viii_o innocentius_n x._o thus_o do_v s._n irenaeus_n bring_v down_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n by_o name_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o immediate_o succeed_v one_o another_o from_o s._n peter_n to_o his_o tyme._n and_o he_o judge_n it_o a_o most_o absolute_n demonsration_n thus_o do_v tertullian_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o put_v it_o down_o for_o a_o evidence_n of_o truth_n thus_o do_v optatus_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o conclude_v that_o in_o pope_n siricius_n who_o then_o sit_v all_o the_o world_n agree_v with_o they_o african_n in_o one_o communion_n thus_o do_v s._n augustine_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o confess_v it_o retain_v he_o in_o the_o bosom_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n thus_o final_o do_v we_o catholic_n to_o this_o day_n and_o we_o instant_o demand_v 1._o why_o the_o like_a proceed_n shall_v not_o be_v hold_v a_o absolute_a demonstration_n a_o evidence_n of_o truth_n as_o well_o from_o we_o as_o from_o they_o 2._o why_o we_o english_a catholic_n may_v not_o by_o as_o good_a right_n be_v say_v to_o agree_v with_o all_o the_o world_n in_o one_o communion_n in_o pope_n innocentius_n who_o sit_v