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thereunto_o he_o will_v imprison_v she_o and_o fine_a her_o five_o hundred_o pound_n that_o if_o she_o continue_v obstinate_a he_o will_v continue_v her_o imprisonment_n and_o double_a her_o fine_a every_o month_n by_o mean_n whereof_o she_o be_v enforce_v to_o relinquish_v her_o estate_n in_o the_o land_n question_v in_o the_o say_a petition_n which_o short_o after_o be_v convey_v to_o sir_n robert_n meredith_n to_o the_o use_n of_o the_o say_a earl_n of_o strafford_n and_o the_o say_a earl_n in_o like_a manner_n do_v imprison_v divers_a other_o of_o his_o majesty_n subject_n upon_o pretence_n of_o disobedience_n to_o his_o order_n decree_n and_o other_o illegal_a command_n by_o he_o make_v for_o pretend_a debt_n title_n of_o land_n and_o other_o cause_n in_o a_o arbitrary_a and_o extrajudicial_a course_n upon_o paper-petition_n to_o he_o prefer_v and_o no_o cause_n legal_o depend_v the_o article_n be_v open_v by_o the_o manager_n thomas_n hibbott_n petition_n to_o my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n be_v read_v set_v forth_o that_o sir_n thomas_n hibbot_n being_n seize_v of_o certain_a land_n convey_v the_o same_o to_o the_o use_n of_o himself_o for_o life_n after_o death_n to_o the_o petitioner_n in_o tail_n and_o divers_a remainder_n over_o that_o sir_n thomas_n of_o the_o say_a land_n become_v seize_v for_o life_n and_o die_v the_o petitioner_n be_v in_o england_n and_o not_o know_v of_o the_o conveyance_n that_o dame_n mary_n hibbot_n john_n hoy_o her_o son_n and_o other_o take_v advantage_n of_o his_o absence_n combine_v to_o get_v the_o deed_n touch_v the_o land_n into_o their_o hand_n that_o they_o cause_v one_o booky_a to_o come_v into_o england_n to_o persuade_v the_o petitioner_n to_o go_v into_o ireland_n and_o he_o go_v according_o and_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o place_n of_o the_o say_v lady_n abode_n who_o pretend_v that_o she_o have_v a_o estate_n in_o the_o land_n during_o life_n that_o by_o this_o mean_n before_o he_o can_v be_v advise_v he_o be_v draw_v to_o contract_v for_o the_o land_n at_o half_a value_n and_o he_o enter_v into_o bond_n to_o perform_v agreement_n that_o the_o petitioner_n be_v more_o willing_a thereunto_o in_o respect_n of_o a_o desire_n to_o buy_v other_o land_n of_o john_n martin_n and_o agree_v for_o it_o and_o be_v to_o receive_v 1800_o l._n of_o the_o say_a lady_n which_o martin_n be_v to_o receive_v and_o the_o great_a part_n pay_v out_o at_o the_o time_n and_o place_n appoint_v that_o a_o deed-poll_n be_v draw_v from_o he_o to_o seal_v to_o and_o acknowledge_v a_o fine_a and_o deliver_v security_n for_o great_a part_n of_o the_o purchase-money_n that_o notwithstanding_o a_o fine_a acknowledge_v and_o security_n give_v up_o the_o lady_n hibbot_n refuse_v to_o let_v martin_n have_v the_o say_a money_n and_o so_o the_o petitioner_n disappoint_v of_o the_o bargain_n and_o therefore_o pray_v that_o the_o evidence_n deed-poll_n fine_a and_o bond_n may_v be_v deliver_v up_o and_o the_o agreement_n discharge_v be_v surreptitious_o obtain_v the_o lord-deputy_n warrant_v be_v subscribe_v and_o read_v bear_v date_v 15._o october_n 1635._o viz._n that_o the_o lady_n hibbot_n etc._n etc._n shall_v on_o sight_n thereof_o forthwith_o deliver_v the_o say_v deed_n etc._n etc._n to_o sir_n paul_n davis_n and_o to_o appear_v at_o council-table_n the_o 20_o of_o this_o instant_a october_n the_o manager_n observe_v that_o the_o petition_n be_v prefer_v in_o the_o name_n of_o thomas_n hibbot_n though_o in_o truth_n he_o have_v never_o knowledge_n of_o the_o exhibit_v manager_n of_o it_o and_o that_o the_o first_o bargain_n with_o the_o lady_n hibbot_n be_v make_v 22._o september_n 1635._o the_o petition_n exhibit_v 15._o october_n 1635._o the_o decree_n be_v read_v john_n hoy_n attest_v it_o to_o be_v a_o true_a copy_n wherein_o the_o petition_n be_v recite_v and_o the_o time_n and_o it_o be_v set_v forth_o that_o the_o court_n of_o justice_n be_v not_o then_o open_a that_o the_o petitioner_n be_v a_o stranger_n it_o be_v not_o fit_a he_o shall_v long_o attend_v that_o the_o defendant_n deny_v the_o fraud_n charge_v to_o which_o the_o plaintiff_n reply_v the_o defendant_n rejoin_v time_n give_v to_o examine_v witness_n and_o a_o day_n for_o hear_v set_v down_o that_o at_o the_o hear_n it_o appear_v the_o say_a lady_n break_v into_o her_o decease_a husband_n study_v possess_v herself_o of_o the_o deed_n and_o write_n that_o booky_o be_v send_v over_o as_o might_n be_v conceive_v to_o circumvent_v the_o plaintiff_n that_o get_v he_o to_o her_o house_n she_o contract_v with_o he_o for_o 1600_o l._n before_o he_o know_v of_o the_o value_n that_o understand_v it_o to_o be_v worth_a 2250_o l._n he_o refuse_v to_o proceed_v and_o then_o the_o lady_n raise_v the_o price_n to_o 2500_o l._n that_o by_o not_o payment_n of_o a_o part_n of_o it_o the_o bargain_n with_o mr._n martin_n the_o cause_n of_o his_o treaty_n with_o the_o lady_n be_v disappoint_v that_o the_o lady_n pretend_v a_o estate_n for_o life_n in_o the_o land_n when_o she_o have_v only_o a_o estate_n in_o part_n for_o 99_o year_n if_o she_o live_v so_o long_o and_o no_o estate_n in_o other_o part_n thereof_o which_o the_o plaintiff_n know_v not_o of_o can_v not_o suffer_v a_o praecipe_fw-la quod_fw-la reddat_fw-la without_o her_o join_n whereas_o be_v but_o lessee_n for_o 99_o year_n he_o may_v that_o it_o appear_v by_o the_o deed_n that_o the_o plaintiff_n intend_v not_o to_o sell_v the_o land_n for_o that_o he_o know_v they_o not_o as_o appear_v by_o circumstance_n which_o the_o order_n do_v more_o particular_o set_v down_o that_o the_o criminal_a part_n shall_v be_v reserve_v to_o be_v make_v use_n of_o by_o the_o king_n council_n that_o for_o the_o civil_a part_n the_o say_a bargain_n be_v order_v to_o be_v void_a that_o the_o fine_a not_o yet_o record_v but_o remain_v unreturned_a shall_v be_v cancel_v if_o the_o plaintiff_n shall_v require_v it_o and_o the_o lady_n to_o have_v only_o such_o estate_n as_o she_o have_v before_o and_o no_o other_o and_o both_o party_n be_v hereunto_o to_o yield_v obedience_n 24._o november_n 1635._o adam_n loftus_n chancellor_n ormond_n valentia_n moor_n dillon_n shirley_n lowther_n wainsford_n manware_v tiringham_n george_n ratcliff_n the_o manager_n open_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o cause_n observe_v the_o particular_a manager_n part_n of_o the_o order_n show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o conveyance_n execute_v a_o fine_a levy_v though_o not_o return_v by_o his_o order_n no_o witness_n examine_v though_o she_o deny_v the_o fraud_n and_o argument_n be_v make_v to_o convince_v she_o by_o observation_n of_o circumstance_n and_o so_o conclude_v to_o overthrow_v a_o bargain_n in_o october_n before_o that_o it_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v when_o the_o court_n of_o justice_n be_v shut_v though_o it_o be_v hear_v in_o full_a term_n 24._o november_n 1635._o the_o term_n there_o begin_v as_o in_o england_n but_o adjourn_v to_o the_o 2._o of_o november_n and_o the_o say_a order_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o council-board_n that_o when_o that_o bargain_n be_v overthrow_v the_o land_n be_v purchase_v by_o sir_n robert_n meredith_n and_o other_o for_o 3000_o l._n to_o the_o use_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o strafford_n and_o he_o sell_v they_o back_o to_o the_o lady_n hibbot_n for_o 7000_o l._n that_o when_o this_o petition_n be_v prefer_v thomas_n hibbot_n desire_v to_o be_v go_v and_o have_v his_o money_n apply_v himself_o to_o sir_n william_n parson_n for_o advice_n whether_o he_o may_v not_o withdraw_v his_o petition_n he_o send_v he_o to_o sir_n george_n ratcliff_n sir_n george_n oppose_v it_o the_o petitioner_n go_v to_o my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n and_o he_o tell_v he_o do_v not_o withdraw_v your_o suit_n 500_o l._n more_o in_o your_o purse_n will_v do_v you_o no_o hurt_n john_n hoy_n be_v first_o produce_v as_o a_o witness_n and_o swear_v my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n offer_v to_o their_o lordship_n consideration_n that_o the_o witness_n be_v to_o have_v the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o land_n and_o so_o swear_v direct_o for_o strafford_n himself_o but_o the_o manager_n answer_v that_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v the_o inheritance_n his_o manager_n lordship_n know_v the_o term_n he_o have_v pay_v 7000_o l._n for_o it_o and_o mr._n maynard_n add_v that_o if_o the_o decree_n be_v of_o force_n against_o he_o it_o be_v something_o but_o the_o land_n be_v since_o pay_v for_o and_o whether_o the_o decree_n be_v good_a or_o bad_a he_o can_v neither_o lose_v nor_o win_v by_o it_o for_o he_o come_v in_o as_o a_o purchasor_n yet_o my_o lord_n of_o strafford_n press_v it_o that_o the_o witness_v complain_v and_o seek_v relief_n against_o the_o decree_n but_o the_o manager_n answer_v it_o be_v for_o his_o mother_n not_o for_o himself_o though_o upon_o my_o lord_n steward_n
in_o the_o ordinary_a way_n of_o judicature_n without_o bill_n for_o so_o be_v the_o present_a question_n for_o the_o clear_n of_o this_o i_o shall_v propound_v two_o thing_n to_o your_o lordship_n consideration_n whether_o the_o rule_n for_o expound_v the_o irish_a statute_n and_o custom_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o in_o england_n as_o in_o ireland_n that_o be_v admit_v whether_o the_o parliament_n in_o england_n have_v cognizance_n or_o jurisdiction_n of_o thing_n there_o do_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n because_o the_o king_n writ_n run_v not_o there_o for_o the_o first_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o place_n the_o parliament_n here_o have_v cognizance_n there_o and_o second_o if_o the_o rule_n for_o expound_v the_o irish_a statute_n and_o custom_n be_v the_o same_o here_o as_o there_o this_o exception_n as_o i_o humble_o conceive_v must_v fall_v away_o in_o england_n there_o be_v the_o common-law_n the_o statute_n the_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o custom_n peculiar_a to_o 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