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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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the_o ministry_n and_o worship_n and_o who_o be_v those_o that_o true_o fear_v god_n i_o ask_v who_o shall_v judge_v in_o this_o case_n who_o be_v they_o that_o fear_n god_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v that_o such_o as_o have_v the_o power_n of_o suffer_v or_o not_o suffer_v cause_n such_o conscience_n must_v judge_v and_o then_o must_v it_o follow_v as_o before_o i_o intimate_v that_o the_o civil_a state_n must_v judge_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o spiritual_a and_o then_o magistrate_n fear_v or_o not_o fear_v god_n must_v judge_v of_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n also_o that_o their_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n must_v be_v according_a to_o their_o conscience_n of_o what_o religion_n soever_o or_o that_o there_o be_v no_o lawful_a magistrate_n who_o be_v not_o able_a to_o judge_v in_o such_o case_n and_o last_o that_o since_o the_o sovereign_a power_n of_o all_o civil_a authority_n be_v found_v in_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n that_o every_o commonweal_n have_v radical_o 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they_o to_o be_v such_o person_n who_o they_o approve_v of_o far_o above_o themselves_o yea_o who_o be_v in_o their_o heart_n to_o live_v and_o die_v together_o yet_o if_o they_o and_o other_o godly_a people_n with_o they_o come_v over_o to_o they_o shall_v differ_v in_o church_n constitution_n they_o then_o can_v not_o approve_v their_o civil_a cohabitation_n with_o they_o and_o consequent_o can_v not_o advise_v the_o magistrate_n to_o suffer_v they_o to_o enjoy_v a_o civil_a be_v within_o their_o jurisdiction_n hear_v o_o heaven_n and_o give_v ear_n o_o earth_n yea_o let_v the_o heaven_n be_v astonish_v and_o the_o earth_n tremble_v at_o such_o a_o answer_n as_o this_o from_o such_o excellent_a man_n to_o such_o who_o they_o esteem_v for_o godliness_n above_o themselves_o chap._n lxxix_o peace_n yea_o but_o they_o say_v they_o doubt_v not_o if_o they_o be_v there_o but_o they_o shall_v agree_v for_o say_v they_o either_o you_o will_v come_v to_o we_o or_o you_o may_v show_v we_o 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what_o only_o the_o key_n of_o david_n can_v do_v to_o wit_n open_a and_o shut_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n beside_o how_o can_v this_o be_v a_o faithful_a and_o upright_a acknowledgement_n of_o their_o weakness_n and_o imperfection_n when_o they_o preach_v print_n and_o practice_v such_o violence_n to_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n of_o other_o and_o by_o their_o rule_n and_o ground_n ought_v to_o proceed_v even_o to_o the_o kill_n of_o those_o who_o they_o judge_v so_o dear_a unto_o they_o and_o in_o respect_n of_o godliness_n far_o above_o themselves_o chap._n lxxx_o peace_n yea_o but_o say_v they_o the_o godly_a will_v not_o persist_v in_o heresy_n or_o turbulent_a schism_n when_o they_o be_v convince_v in_o conscience_n person_n etc._n etc._n truth_n sweet_a truth_n if_o the_o civil_a court_n and_o magistracy_n must_v judge_v as_o before_o i_o have_v writ●en_v and_o those_o civil_a court_n be_v as_o lawful_a consist_v of_o natural_a man_n as_o of_o godly_a person_n than_o what_o 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