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A44973 An humble apology for non-conformists with modest and serious reflections on the Friendly debate and the continuation thereof / by a lover of truth and peace. Norton, John, 1606-1663. 1669 (1669) Wing H3402; ESTC R20176 79,882 174

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london-minister_n wait_v on_o his_o majesty_n at_o the_o hague_n when_o discourse_n be_v about_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n earnest_o move_v his_o majesty_n that_o he_o will_v please_v to_o think_v of_o a_o way_n to_o indulge_v they_o a_o liberty_n though_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o public_a establishment_n as_o it_o be_v then_o hope_v the_o presbyterian_a will_v have_v be_v in_o brief_a the_o presbyterian_o disclaim_v separation_n they_o be_v willing_a to_o have_v union_n and_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n upon_o christian_a and_o friendly_a term_n and_o they_o desire_v the_o like_a liberty_n and_o toleration_n from_o the_o bishop_n that_o they_o be_v willing_a and_o ready_a to_o have_v show_v to_o their_o brethren_n of_o the_o congregational_a way_n yea_o they_o will_v bless_v god_n and_o our_o governor_n if_o they_o may_v have_v the_o like_a favour_n and_o liberty_n that_o dr._n gunning_n dr._n wild_n dr._n hide_v and_o other_o the_o 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who_o have_v keep_v conventicle_n apart_o from_o the_o church_n for_o thirty_o year_n be_v disgu_v at_o the_o dishonour_n do_v to_o john_n chrysostom_n their_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n and_o this_o the_o church_n do_v by_o restore_v his_o honour_n after_o he_o be_v dead_a socrat._v eccles_n hist._n quest_n why_o shall_v the_o church_n of_o england_n remove_v the_o ceremony_n which_o she_o have_v retain_v since_o the_o reformation_n may_v she_o not_o thereby_o disgust_v and_o offend_v the_o romanist_n to_o please_v the_o nonconformist_n which_o they_o call_v puritan_n rather_o than_o protestant_n answ_n these_o ceremony_n be_v at_o first_o retain_v and_o continue_v when_o other_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n in_o hope_n to_o bring_v the_o papist_n to_o a_o compliance_n with_o our_o church_n but_o archbishop_n usher_n as_o he_o that_o write_v his_o life_n inform_v we_o upon_o occasion_n declare_v his_o judgement_n concern_v they_o that_o experience_n of_o many_o year_n have_v 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care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n who_o profess_v of_o himself_o i_o become_v all_o thing_n to_o all_o man_n that_o by_o any_o mean_n i_o may_v win_v some_o or_o else_o that_o be_v in_o this_o godly_a archbishop_n usher_n of_o who_o it_o be_v record_v in_o his_o life_n that_o though_o he_o conform_v himself_o yet_o he_o desire_v that_o his_o majesty_n will_v not_o impose_v the_o english_a ceremony_n on_o the_o irish_a church_n say_v if_o i_o have_v all_o man_n conscience_n in_o my_o keep_n i_o can_v in_o these_o disputable_a case_n give_v law_n unto_o they_o as_o well_o as_o myself_o but_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n what_o i_o can_v do_v and_o another_o thing_n what_o other_o man_n must_v do_v since_o the_o ceremony_n be_v thing_n say_v our_o church_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n indifferent_a and_o yet_o by_o some_o hold_v superstitious_a and_o unlawful_a it_o seem_v to_o fall_v within_o the_o apostle_n rule_n which_o be_v that_o the_o strong_a do_v descend_v and_o yield_v to_o the_o 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