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A30189 An answer to two treatises of Mr. Iohn Can, the leader of the English Brownists in Amsterdam the former called, A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, proved by the Nonconformists principles : the other, A stay against straying : wherein in opposition to M. Iohn Robinson, he undertakes to prove the unlawfulnesse of hearing the ministers of the Church of England ... / by the late learned, laborious and faithfull servant of Jesus Christ, John Ball. Ball, John, 1585-1640.; Ashe, Simeon, d. 1662. 1642 (1642) Wing B558; ESTC R3127 281,779 264

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inficiari_fw-la quin_fw-la prius_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la crede_v runt_n quam_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la divortium_fw-la unde_fw-la haec_fw-la fides_fw-la anon_o ex_fw-la praedicatione_n in_fw-la nostra_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la numquid_fw-la ergo_fw-la praedicare_fw-la quis_fw-la potest_fw-la nisi_fw-la mittatur_fw-la rom._n 10.13_o etc._n etc._n quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la verbum_fw-la propter_fw-la labem_fw-la aliquam_fw-la externae_fw-la vocationis_fw-la tam_fw-la perverse_a respuunt_fw-la cujus_fw-la vim_o divinam_fw-la in_o cordibus_fw-la sentiunt_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la fructus_fw-la ipse_fw-la non_fw-la magis_fw-la culpâ_fw-la liberat_fw-la depravationes_fw-la nostras_fw-la quam_fw-la vera_fw-la proles_fw-la adulterium_fw-la nec_fw-la igitur_fw-la nobis_fw-la in_o iis_fw-la acquiescendum_fw-la est_fw-la nec_fw-la iis_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la propter_fw-la aliquos_fw-la naevos_fw-la deficiendum_fw-la quamobrem_fw-la redite_fw-la ad_fw-la unitatem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quae_fw-la 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and_o their_o own_o principle_n do_v plain_o distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o maim_n or_o defect_n in_o the_o call_n of_o a_o minister_n and_o no_o call_n at_o all_o that_o it_o be_v great_a ignorance_n or_o to_o speak_v most_o favourable_o inconsiderateness_n to_o charge_v they_o as_o if_o they_o go_v against_o their_o own_o principle_n in_o hold_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n worship_n and_o if_o haste_n have_v not_o blind_v 285._o robinson_n against_o bern._n reason_n discuss_v p._n 285._o this_o you_o may_v have_v observe_v out_o of_o the_o separatist_n themselves_o there_o be_v say_v one_o speak_v of_o baptism_n in_o this_o point_n a_o further_a consideration_n to_o be_v have_v unto_o which_o both_o the_o scripture_n and_o our_o own_o experience_n do_v lead_v we_o namely_o that_o as_o the_o lord_n have_v his_o people_n in_o babylon_n his_o i_o mean_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o election_n and_o of_o personal_a sanctification_n so_o have_v he_o for_o their_o sake_n there_o preserve_v notwithstanding_o all_o the_o apostasy_n and_o confusion_n which_o be_v find_v in_o it_o sundry_a his_o holy_a truth_n and_o ordinance_n among_o which_o baptism_n be_v one_o but_o if_o his_o ordinance_n be_v preserve_v or_o any_o one_o of_o they_o true_a for_o substance_n of_o necessity_n some_o truth_n of_o ministry_n whereby_o those_o ordinance_n be_v administer_v must_v be_v preserve_v also_o it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o the_o people_n as_o the_o nonconformist_n hold_n 352._o whitak_n de_fw-fr pont_n rom._n contr_n 4._o qu._n 1._o cap._n 1._o si_fw-mi velimus_fw-la christum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la respicere_fw-la fuit_fw-la semper_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regimen_fw-la monarchicum_fw-la si_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praebyteros_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la &_o disciplina_fw-la svas_fw-la part_n agebant_fw-la ar●stocraticum_fw-la si_fw-la totum_fw-la corpus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quatenus_fw-la in_o electione_n episcoporum_fw-la &_o 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