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A10973 Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1608 (1608) STC 21241; ESTC S116109 75,976 132

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and_o receive_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v if_o it_o be_v orderly_o take_v and_o decent_o do_v be_v from_o god_n and_o his_o word_n albeit_o therefore_o neither_o nature_n enjoin_v we_o to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o sit_v or_o stand_v when_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v nor_o the_o word_n or_o holy_a scripture_n to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o stand_v or_o sit_v when_o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o as_o our_o common_a eat_n and_o drink_v according_a to_o the_o laudable_a custom_n of_o our_o country_n where_o we_o live_v be_v from_o nature_n though_o institute_v by_o man_n or_o make_v usual_a by_o custom_n even_o so_o our_o kneel_v in_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n original_o though_o institute_v by_o man_n inasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o decent_a order_n in_o his_o church_n as_o after_o god_n nature_n 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respect_n of_o a_o more_o reverend_a receive_n or_o not_o pro._n of_o all_o reverend_a manner_n of_o receive_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n kneel_v be_v the_o most_o reverend_a and_o so_o and_o none_o otherwise_o institute_v and_o use_v by_o we_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o england_n schis_n but_o if_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n in_o so_o high_a a_o part_n of_o god_n service_n may_v not_o such_o kneel_v be_v judge_v if_o not_o a_o gross_a 29._o mock_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v the_o soldier_n bow_v of_o knee_n before_o he_o yet_o a_o take_n of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a see_v all_o signification_n of_o honour_n in_o god_n service_n aught_o to_o be_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o his_o name_n &_o a_o oath_n not_o religious_o intend_v as_o in_o 7._o the_o nature_n thereof_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v to_o the_o hovour_n of_o god_n be_v 2._o the_o take_n of_o god_n name_n in_o vain_a pro._n be_v kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n a_o sign_n a_o solemn_a yea_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n by_o your_o own_o confession_n and_o may_v not_o yea_o can_v that_o solemn_a that_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n at_o the_o receive_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n at_o the_o communion_n be_v express_v without_o sin_n which_o be_v your_o proposition_n who_o observe_v &_o believe_v these_o your_o word_n which_o be_v most_o true_a but_o will_v fall_v into_o a_o loathe_n of_o the_o say_a assertion_n but_o your_o say_a proposition_n be_v not_o more_o odious_a than_o your_o say_n that_o the_o most_o solemn_a kind_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n be_v false_a and_o slanderous_a for_o neither_o do_v all_o church_n in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n either_o use_n to_o kneel_v or_o kneel_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n by_o institution_n of_o authority_n neither_o if_o some_o do_v kneel_v without_o such_o respect_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n be_v all_o church_n to_o be_v charge_v and_o blame_v for_o this_o fault_n but_o least_o of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o england_n where_o this_o sign_n this_o solemn_a this_o most_o solmne_v sign_n with_o all_o possible_a respect_n of_o reverence_n be_v give_v to_o god_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n where_o therefore_o this_o sign_n of_o reverence_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n give_v and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n in_o so_o high_a a_o part_n of_o god_n service_n
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geneva_n annotation_n afore_o cite_v say_v true_a and_o if_o because_o stand_v in_o some_o church_n be_v prescribe_v at_o the_o sacramental_a feast_n it_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v indifferent_a then_o be_v kneel_v so_o to_o be_v deem_v because_o the_o most_o and_o best_a reform_a church_n appoint_v kneel_v to_o be_v the_o seemly_a gesture_n to_o be_v use_v at_o the_o sacrament_n what_o have_v you_o more_o to_o say_v schis_n again_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o because_o christ_n use_v a_o gesture_n fit_a for_o eat_v in_o his_o time_n in_o stead_n of_o a_o gesture_n prescribe_v upon_o occasion_n it_o be_v therefore_o lawful_a to_o use_v a_o gesture_n nothing_o answerable_a to_o eat_v and_o that_o take_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n of_o antichrist_n as_o though_o the_o 36._o word_n of_o god_n come_v out_o of_o it_o or_o to_o it_o only_o instead_o of_o a_o gesture_n most_o answerable_a to_o eat_v and_o purposely_o use_v by_o christ_n at_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o sacrament_n pro._n will_v you_o not_o leave_v charge_v of_o christ_n with_o violate_v and_o break_v of_o god_n ordinance_n by_o use_v a_o gesture_n not_o fit_a for_o eat_v in_o his_o time_n refuse_v a_o gesture_n prescribe_v upon_o occasion_n in_o god_n eye_n fit_a for_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o thing_n though_o our_o saviour_n neither_o might_n nor_o will_v do_v yet_o be_v it_o free_a for_o we_o christian_n and_o all_o church_n to_o use_v such_o gesture_n at_o the_o communion_n as_o be_v fit_a for_o the_o day_n and_o country_n wherein_o and_o where_o we_o live_v england_n and_o many_o other_o church_n purge_v from_o the_o superstition_n of_o popery_n have_v make_v choice_n of_o kneel_v a_o site_z though_o not_o answerable_a to_o our_o common_a eat_n neither_o be_v it_o necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v yet_o seemly_a in_o our_o eye_n for_o our_o eucharistical_a ecclesiastical_a heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a repast_n with_o christ_n and_o his_o member_n which_o site_n or_o gesture_n though_o 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be_v the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n which_o what_o it_o do_v differ_v from_o the_o most_o reverend_a gesture_n he_o be_v sharp_o sight_v that_o can_v discern_v and_o so_o best_a beseem_v the_o holy_a communion_n in_o our_o judgement_n and_o country_n howsoever_o our_o lord_n and_o master_n minister_v this_o his_o supper_n he_o minister_v the_o same_o in_o most_o decent_a orderly_a and_o reverend_a manner_n yet_o not_o bind_v we_o to_o his_o example_n as_o know_v that_o be_v comely_a in_o one_o country_n which_o be_v not_o so_o in_o another_o and_o meet_v for_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v and_o institute_v the_o sacrament_n which_o though_o lawful_a be_v not_o so_o convenient_a for_o after_o time_n and_o all_o place_n where_o his_o church_n or_o part_v thereof_o shall_v reside_v when_o christ_n therefore_o in_o these_o thing_n have_v leave_v we_o free_a let_v no_o man_n bring_v we_o into_o a_o new_a bondage_n schis_n and_o let_v his_o majesty_n remember_v and_o consider_v that_o ahaz_n be_v deceive_v in_o deem_v the_o altar_n at_o damascus_n 15._o more_o honourable_a for_o god_n service_n than_o the_o altar_n of_o lord_n pro._n when_o you_o prove_v that_o god_n have_v appoint_v the_o site_n of_o sit_v to_o be_v the_o only_a gesture_n for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o communion_n in_o his_o church_n as_o altar_n be_v prescribe_v by_o god_n for_o his_o worship_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o the_o site_n of_o kneel_v at_o the_o say_a communion_n be_v as_o unlawful_a as_o be_v the_o altar_n at_o jerusalem_n make_v after_o the_o fashion_n of_o the_o altar_n at_o damascus_n and_o last_o that_o we_o in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n commit_v idolatry_n by_o our_o kneel_v as_o do_v the_o jew_n upon_o their_o new_a make_v altar_n then_o let_v both_o king_n james_n be_v take_v for_o a_o ahaz_n and_o his_o loyal_a and_o obedient_a subject_n for_o idolater_n in_o the_o space_n you_o be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o a_o egregious_a depraver_n both_o of_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n and_o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n under_o his_o empire_n and_o government_n sect_n 11._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n as_o much_o be_v to_o be_v abhor_v as_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n schis_n i_o have_v say_v that_o which_o may_v be_v sufficient_a to_o a_o man_n reasonable_a and_o not_o contentious_a against_o the_o institution_n of_o kneel_v for_o suppose_a reverence_n in_o regard_n of_o god_n pro._n you_o have_v say_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o then_o enough_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n but_o no_o whit_n for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o any_o indifferent_a and_o reasonable_a man_n studious_a of_o the_o church_n quiet_a and_o desirous_a of_o the_o truth_n schis_n it_o remain_v that_o somewhat_o be_v say_v against_o the_o institution_n of_o kneel_v for_o reverence_n in_o regard_n
of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o need_v not_o be_v much_o pro._n whatsoever_o you_o shall_v say_v it_o be_v but_o too_o much_o in_o a_o needless_a contention_n you_o have_v be_v tell_v that_o we_o kneel_v not_o neither_o be_v to_o kneel_v in_o regard_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n schis_n very_o no_o sound_a protestant_n of_o any_o knowledge_n will_v affirm_v it_o but_o rather_o present_o consider_v that_o if_o kneel_v be_v institute_v for_o reverence_n in_o regard_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n it_o must_v be_v either_o because_o they_o represent_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n though_o remain_v bread_n and_o wine_n touch_v their_o substance_n and_o then_o for_o like_a reason_n we_o may_v worship_v the_o crucifix_n and_o image_n of_o god_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v pro._n true_a schis_n or_o this_o reverence_n be_v do_v to_o bread_n and_o wine_n because_o christ_n be_v real_o bodily_a and_o local_o though_o invisiblie_o present_a in_o they_o either_o by_o transubstantiation_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o papist_n or_o of_o consubstantiation_n according_a to_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o lutheran_n pro._n the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o member_n of_o the_o same_o have_v in_o equal_a detestation_n both_o of_o the_o transubstantion_n of_o the_o papist_n and_o the_o consubstantiation_n of_o the_o lutheran_n schis_n then_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o if_o we_o abjure_v these_o heresy_n of_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n we_o must_v also_o abhor_v idolatrous_a and_o superstitious_a kneel_v their_o daughter_n and_o nurse_n pro._n we_o abhor_v idolatrous_a and_o superstitious_a kneel_v from_o our_o heart_n but_o not_o kneel_v our_o kneel_v be_v neither_o superstitious_a nor_o idolatrous_a schis_n we_o never_o hear_v of_o kneel_v before_o transubstantiation_n be_v hatch_v in_o the_o sygnagove_n of_o antichrist_n so_o that_o 110._o immediate_o after_o pope_n innocent_a decree_v transubstantiation_n pope_n honorius_n decree_v kneel_v therefore_o if_o harding_n do_v grant_v that_o it_o be_v not_o well_o to_o kneel_v but_o in_o regard_n of_o a_o real_a and_o bodily_a presence_n a_o sound_n protestant_n shall_v infer_v but_o i_o detest_v your_o real_a presence_n therefore_o jabhorre_v your_o idolatrous_a kneel_v pro._n we_o be_v to_o regard_v not_o so_o much_o who_o ordain_v kneel_v at_o the_o first_o or_o when_o it_o be_v establish_v and_o why_o as_o who_o command_v it_o now_o and_o the_o use_n thereof_o which_o we_o take_v to_o be_v very_o good_a profitable_a and_o necessary_a what_o though_o harding_n do_v say_v that_o we_o do_v not_o well_o to_o kneel_v but_o in_o regard_n of_o a_o real_a and_o bodily_a presence_n do_v we_o therefore_o ill_o which_o kneel_v have_v no_o such_o regard_n and_o though_o you_o tell_v we_o a_o thousand_o time_n we_o do_v ill_o in_o kneel_v because_o the_o papist_n in_o kneel_v do_v adore_v the_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v we_o therefore_o ill_o which_o abhor_v the_o papist_n both_o doctrine_n and_o 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