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congregation_n prot._n such_o partiality_n true_o i_o can_v approve_v cath._n these_o be_v the_o catholic_a doctrine_n mention_v by_o you_o as_o evident_o contradict_v scripture_n and_o invent_v to_o promote_v ambition_n and_o avarice_n in_o the_o catholic_a clergy_n and_o beside_o these_o other_o point_n of_o controversy_n there_o be_v which_o though_o not_o charge_v with_o such_o a_o imputation_n yet_o be_v esteem_v by_o you_o of_o moment_n sufficient_a to_o drive_v you_o out_o of_o god_n church_n do_v you_o think_v good_a that_o we_o shall_v take_v notice_n of_o these_o also_o prot._n yes_o 14._o of_o celibacy_n of_o priest_n §._o 104._o cath._n the_o first_o than_o that_o i_o will_v mention_v shall_v be_v the_o church_n ordinance_n touch_v celibacy_n of_o priest_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o we_o that_o this_o be_v only_o a_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n it_o be_v also_o confess_v by_o the_o most_o eminent_a among_o you_o that_o if_o your_o clergy_n will_v submit_v to_o such_o a_o 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among_o they_o a_o want_n of_o this_o gift_n of_o continence_n it_o be_v their_o own_o fault_n general_o speak_v they_o want_v it_o because_o they_o be_v unwilling_a to_o enjoy_v it_o and_o will_v not_o make_v use_n of_o prayer_n reading_n abstinence_n solitude_n and_o other_o mean_v proper_a to_o continue_v it_o and_o will_v you_o sir_n leave_v god_n church_n because_o those_o who_o god_n have_v appoint_v to_o take_v care_n of_o your_o soul_n have_v not_o neither_o desire_n to_o have_v wife_n prot._n go_v on_o to_o the_o next_o point_n 15._o of_o abstinence_n from_o flesh_n enjoin_v in_o fast_v §._o 105._o cath._n as_o not_o in_o the_o former_a constitution_n so_o neither_o in_o this_o by_o which_o the_o church_n command_v abstinence_n from_o flesh_n on_o day_n of_o fast_v can_v you_o have_v any_o pretention_n to_o impute_v to_o our_o church_n as_o we_o may_v to_o you_o that_o she_o favour_v carnal_a affection_n in_o the_o former_a her_o clergy_n impose_v on_o themselves_o alone_o the_o burden_n of_o renounce_v all_o even_o otherwise_o lawful_a satisfaction_n to_o the_o flesh_n and_o for_o this_o you_o who_o be_v nothing_o concern_v will_v be_v angry_a and_o forsake_v a_o church_n because_o mortification_n be_v practise_v by_o the_o pastor_n in_o it_o in_o this_o latter_a ordinance_n she_o indeed_o i_o mean_v her_o clergy_n restrain_v in_o some_o measure_n the_o appetite_n of_o the_o laity_n but_o they_o do_v not_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n favour_n themselves_o if_o it_o be_v not_o good_a for_o our_o soul_n to_o abate_v the_o intemperance_n of_o our_o body_n ecclesiastic_o will_v not_o afflict_v themselves_o by_o practise_v it_o and_o if_o it_o be_v good_a laic_n be_v too_o blame_v to_o find_v fault_n with_o it_o §._o 106._o however_o i_o can_v judge_v you_o so_o unreasonable_a as_o to_o join_v with_o your_o hotheaded_a controvertist_n and_o preacher_n who_o for_o these_o two_o ordinance_n sake_n impute_v to_o our_o church_n the_o teach_n of_o the_o doctrine_n 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