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A11213 The poore vicars plea Declaring, that a competencie of meanes is due to them out of the tithes of their seuerall parishes, notwithstanding the impropriations. Written by Thomas Ryves Dr. of the Ciuile Lawes. Ryves, Thomas, Sir, 1583?-1652. 1620 (1620) STC 21478; ESTC S116301 50,156 162

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