have_v of_o your_o person_n etc._n etc._n except_o only_o in_o your_o particular_a opinion_n wherein_o the_o dissent_n from_o all_o protestant_n yea_o all_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n m._n s._n now_o let_v the_o protestant_a church_n to_o who_o you_o say_v you_o submit_v judge_v whether_o in_o these_o word_n there_o be_v not_o a_o notorious_a untruth_n for_o wherein_o do_v the_o five_o minister_n and_o their_o church_n differ_v from_o many_o church_n in_o england_n diverse_a in_o holland_n and_o general_o all_o within_o the_o patent_n of_o new-england_n if_o you_o account_v these_o place_n protestant_a it_o may_v be_v you_o will_v object_v mr._n parker_n letter_n and_o some_o manuscript_n from_o new-england_n and_o the_o letter_n from_o zealand_n to_o mr._n parker_n his_o letter_n we_o need_v say_v little_a the_o letter_n will_v answer_v for_o we_o though_o mr._n parker_n little_a thought_n when_o he_o write_v it_o to_o find_v a_o a._n s._n in_o england_n or_o that_o his_o brother_n bayly_n will_v have_v print_v his_o letter_n seem_o to_o anticipate_v the_o disputation_n of_o the_o assembly_n as_o if_o he_o mean_v to_o beg_v the_o question_n though_o but_o with_o show_n and_o shadow_n 1._o mr._n parker_n say_v not_o one_o word_n for_o a_o classical_a presbytery_n the_o main_a difference_n in_o hand_n but_o for_o a_o congregationall_a that_o he_o will_v have_v in_o some_o thing_n more_o manage_v by_o the_o presbytery_n of_o every_o congregation_n without_o put_v every_o thing_n to_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o people_n of_o the_o congregation_n because_o some_o confusion_n have_v follow_v upon_o it_o do_v in_o necessary_n abuse_v take_v away_o the_o use_n there_o be_v confusion_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n or_o be_v there_o any_o mention_n of_o this_o in_o the_o apology_n that_o all_o business_n of_o the_o church_n must_v be_v put_v to_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o congregation_n 2._o that_o in_o that_o thing_n only_o there_o have_v be_v a_o argue_v on_o both_o side_n m._n parker_n &_o mr._n noise_n only_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o letter_n to_o be_v on_o the_o one_o side_n &_o all_o the_o other_o church_n on_o the_o other_o against_o mr._n parker_n and_o mr._n noise_n and_o 3_o mr._n parker_n do_v not_o say_v he_o win_v the_o day_n but_o as_o he_o answer_v their_o argument_n as_o he_o say_v so_o he_o confess_v they_o answer_v his_o argument_n and_o the_o thing_n be_v leave_v to_o consideration_n yea_o a_o godly_a man_n of_o new-england_n tell_v i_o that_o the_o church_n of_o new-england_n do_v conceive_v that_o mr._n parker_n have_v receive_v full_a satisfaction_n from_o they_o in_o that_o point_n how_o ever_o it_o be_v all_o amount_v but_o to_o a_o private_a letter_n subscribe_v by_o one_o man_n yet_o imprimatur_fw-la say_v 1_n c._n as_o if_o much_o to_o the_o purpose_n but_o take_v but_o a_o little_a afterward_o to_o our_o answer_n to_o a_o letter_n from_o zealand_n and_o you_o shall_v find_v the_o judgement_n of_o new-england_n in_o letter_n new_o come_v over_o to_o any_o private_a copy_n or_o manuscript_n from_o new-england_n one_o mr._n rutherfâ—â—d_n have_v answer_v as_o too_o much_o jump_v with_o the_o apology_n and_o opposite_a to_o classical_a presbytery_n another_o if_o it_o have_v come_v forth_o will_v have_v be_v keen_a against_o a._n s._n then_o the_o apology_n be_v so_o that_o if_o the_o apology_n do_v differ_v from_o that_o it_o be_v only_a because_o the_o apology_n more_o agree_v with_o the_o reform_a church_n of_o this_o island_n and_o for_o the_o three_o it_o have_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o classical_a presbytery_n but_o some_o thing_n touch_v the_o order_n of_o congregationall_a presbytery_n and_o all_o these_o be_v but_o private_a intelligencer_n and_o mutual_a adviser_n not_o determination_n or_o national_a no_o more_o then_o i_o suppose_v mr._n cranford_n or_o a._n s._n will_v account_v the_o strange_a query_n on_o the_o apology_n and_o scotch_a commissioner_n reply_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o new-england_n though_o make_v by_o one_o of_o that_o country_n as_o for_o the_o letter_n of_o zealand_n i_o can_v tell_v how_o to_o speak_v all_o the_o truth_n &_o not_o offend_v some_o who_o by_o my_o will_n i_o will_v not_o in_o the_o least_o displease_v sure_o this_o will_v not_o offend_v to_o tell_v a._n s._n that_o in_o holland_n if_o not_o in_o zealand_n be_v some_o church_n that_o be_v full_o with_o the_o five_o minister_n unto_o which_o some_o of_o they_o do_v relate_v and_o to_o speak_v these_o thing_n to_o the_o letter_n itself_o be_v matter_n of_o fact_n i_o hope_v can_v just_o offend_v 1._o that_o that_o letter_n come_v admirable_o punctual_a upon_o the_o very_a nick_n after_o the_o first_o reply_n to_o the_o apology_n be_v out_o 2._o that_o a_o scottish_a knight_n as_o it_o be_v inform_v nine_o or_o ten_o day_n before_o it_o be_v know_v abroad_o that_o the_o letter_n be_v to_o come_v say_v what_o if_o you_o receive_v a_o letter_n from_o zealand_n dislike_a the_o apology_n or_o to_o that_o effect_n 3._o that_o there_o be_v a_o scottish_a church_n of_o which_o one_o spang_n be_v a_o very_a busy_a agent_n at_o trevere_a hard_a by_o middleborough_n whence_o the_o letter_n come_v 4._o that_o there_o be_v in_o it_o many_o high_a passage_n seem_v to_o some_o so_o prejudicial_a to_o our_o worthy_a magistracy_n that_o it_o justify_v that_o of_o the_o apology_n say_v that_o the_o five_o minister_n etc._n etc._n give_v more_o to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n than_o the_o principle_n of_o some_o presbyterian_o do_v the_o say_a letter_n give_v so_o too_o little_a to_o the_o magistracy_n that_o the_o state_n of_o england_n i_o think_v can_v approve_v it_o here_o among_o we_o verbum_fw-la sapientisat_fw-la est_fw-la more_o may_v be_v think_v upon_o evident_a ground_n but_o not_o speak_v here_o 5._o most_o happy_o by_o almost_o a_o miraculary_a providence_n in_o this_o nick_n of_o time_n come_v two_o letter_n from_o new-england_n to_o countermand_v mr._n parker_n letter_n thence_o and_o the_o other_o from_o zealand_n the_o first_o from_o mr._n winthorp_n governor_n of_o new_a england_n to_o his_o reverend_a and_o very_a good_a brother_n mr._n hugh_n peter_n minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n these_o deliver_v in_o london_n our_o late_a assembly_n of_o about_o forty_o elder_n meet_v wherein_o the_o way_n of_o our_o church_n be_v approve_v and_o the_o presbytery_n disallow_v winthorp_n governor_n decemb._n 10._o 1643._o the_o second_o from_o another_o of_o new-england_n to_o another_o minister_n in_o old-england_n about_o the_o same_o time_n wherein_o we_o have_v these_o passage_n we_o have_v have_v say_v he_o a_o synod_n late_o in_o our_o college_n wherein_o sundry_a thing_n be_v agree_v on_o grave_o as_o that_o the_o vote_n of_o the_o people_n be_v needful_a in_o all_o admission_n and_o excommunication_n at_o least_o in_o way_n of_o consent_n all_o yield_v to_o act_v with_o their_o consent_n 2._o that_o those_o that_o be_v fit_a matter_n for_o a_o church_n though_o they_o be_v not_o always_o able_a to_o make_v large_a and_o particular_a relation_n of_o the_o work_n and_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n yet_o must_v not_o live_v in_o the_o commission_n of_o any_o know_a sin_n or_o the_o neglect_n of_o any_o know_a duty_n 3._o that_o consociation_n of_o church_n in_o way_n of_o more_o general_a meeting_n yearly_o and_o more_o private_a monthly_a or_o quarterly_o as_o consultative_n synod_n be_v very_o comfortable_a and_o necessary_a for_o the_o peace_n and_o good_a of_o the_o church_n 4._o it_o be_v general_o desire_v that_o the_o exercitium_fw-la of_o the_o church_n power_n may_v only_o be_v in_o the_o eldership_n in_o each_o particular_a church_n unless_o their_o sin_n be_v apparent_a in_o their_o work_n 5._o that_o parish_n church_n in_o old_a england_n can_v not_o be_v right_a without_o a_o renew_a covenant_n at_o least_o and_o the_o refuser_n exclude_v and_o be_v not_o new-england_n so_o far_o the_o church_n of_o new-england_n will_v soon_o send_v a_o three_o punctual_o to_o approve_v the_o apology_n unless_o it_o be_v for_o their_o merer_n compliance_n with_o they_o who_o notwithstanding_o have_v write_v against_o they_o we_o have_v be_v the_o long_o in_o answer_n to_o this_o clause_n because_o we_o find_v a._n s._n to_o be_v but_o the_o text_n of_o other_o man_n commentary-discourse_n who_o say_v that_o the_o five_o minister_n will_v oppose_v all_o the_o visible_a christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n if_o they_o do_v it_o be_v not_o such_o a_o wonder_n as_o for_o one_o wickliff_n in_o one_o age_n one_o husse_n in_o another_o and_o luther_n in_o a_o three_o to_o oppose_v all_o the_o world_n the_o truth_n be_v all_o church_n general_o partly_o by_o tyranny_n and_o partly_o by_o security_n be_v grow_v so_o corrupt_a that_o to_o apologise_v for_o a_o through_o reformation_n seem_v to_o reprove_v all_o
glad_o come_v over_o unto_o they_o but_o can_v they_o can_v come_v over_o unto_o these_o but_o will_v not_o it_o be_v the_o will_n not_o the_o act_n that_o make_v schism_n and_o separation_n four_o we_o do_v not_o see_v as_o deep_a as_o you_o have_v lay_v the_o charge_n wherein_o the_o apologist_n do_v any_o whit_n more_o symbolize_v with_o convent_v monastery_n or_o order_n among_o the_o papist_n than_o you_o and_o your_o friend_n you_o tell_v they_o that_o all_o their_o church_n believe_v one_o doctrine_n together_o with_o you_o and_o that_o every_o one_o of_o these_o church_n have_v one_o minister_n as_o the_o popish_a convent_v a_o particular_a abbot_n or_o prior._n we_o pray_v you_o do_v not_o all_o your_o church_n believe_v one_o doctrine_n together_o and_o have_v not_o every_o one_o of_o your_o church_n one_o minister_n wherein_o then_o lie_v the_o difference_n between_o you_o and_o they_o or_o wherein_o do_v they_o symbolize_v more_o with_o convent_v or_o monastery_n than_o yourself_o nay_o five_o and_o last_o as_o if_o you_o have_v quite_o forget_v your_o rhomb_n you_o tacit_o couple_v yourself_o with_o those_o popish_a convent_v monastery_n and_o order_n in_o one_o ignoble_a consideration_n from_o which_o you_o acquit_v your_o brethren_n they_o only_o differ_v say_v you_o to_o they_o in_o this_o that_o you_o have_v no_o general_n or_o any_o thing_n answerable_a thereunto_o to_o keep_v you_o in_o unity_n and_o conformity_n plain_o imply_v that_o your_o presbyterian_o have_v viz._n their_o sovereign_a judicatory_a so_o that_o if_o this_o your_o reason_n shall_v but_o take_v place_n and_o be_v hold_v valid_a it_o be_v your_o presbyterian_a party_n not_o the_o party_n apologize_v that_o aught_o to_o suffer_v the_o non-toleration_n you_o speak_v of_o it_o be_v they_o not_o these_o that_o be_v the_o great_a symbolizer_n with_o st_n francis_n and_z st_n dominick_n to_o your_o twelve_o reason_n answer_v his_o 12._o reason_n answer_v we_o have_v give_v answer_n upon_o answer_n former_o as_o first_o where_o we_o consider_v of_o the_o example_n of_o the_o king_n of_o judah_n and_o show_v how_o little_a they_o contribute_v to_o the_o claim_n of_o coercive_a power_n in_o the_o magistrate_n to_o take_v away_o heresy_n schism_n superstition_n etc._n etc._n second_o where_o we_o argue_v against_o such_o a_o power_n by_o several_a demonstration_n three_o where_o we_o give_v a_o account_n also_o how_o toleration_n be_v no_o way_n either_o to_o schism_n heresy_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o apex_n or_o icta_fw-la of_o this_o reason_n remain_v unanswered_a the_o logico-divinity_n of_o your_o thirteen_o reason_n answer_v his_o 13._o reason_n answer_v consist_v in_o this_o enthymeme_n if_o we_o have_v but_o one_o god_n one_o christ_n and_o one_o lord_n one_o spirit_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n whereby_o we_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v one_o body_n we_o ought_v to_o have_v one_o communion_n whereby_o to_o be_v spiritual_o feed_v and_o one_o discipline_n to_o be_v rule_v by_o and_o if_o so_o then_o ought_v not_o the_o apologist_n to_o be_v tolerate_v we_o answer_v that_o neither_o do_v your_o inference_n or_o conclusion_n here_o at_o all_o follow_v from_o your_o premise_n we_o have_v all_o you_o speak_v of_o one_o one_o and_o one_o and_o in_o regard_n of_o that_o multiply_a unity_n we_o ought_v as_o you_o say_v to_o have_v one_o communion_n and_o one_o discipline_n but_o first_o not_o necessary_o that_o communion_n or_o that_o discipline_n which_o be_v of_o classic_a inspiration_n no_o more_o than_o those_o which_o be_v either_o of_o papal_a or_o episcopal_a recommendation_n because_o though_o we_o judge_v these_o two_o latter_a spirit_n more_o sphalmaticall_a erroneous_a and_o dangerous_a than_o the_o first_o yet_o we_o can_v think_v that_o either_o the_o pope_n or_o bishop_n or_o both_o together_o have_v so_o ingross_v the_o spirit_n of_o erreour_n and_o fallibility_n but_o that_o they_o have_v leave_v of_o that_o anoint_v more_o then_o enough_o to_o initiate_v all_o other_o order_n society_n and_o profession_n of_o man_n in_o the_o world_n second_o though_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v one_o communion_n and_o discipline_n yet_o ought_v we_o to_o be_v lead_v into_o this_o unity_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o angel_n of_o light_n not_o to_o be_v fright_v into_o it_o by_o a_o evil_a angel_n of_o fear_n and_o terror_n three_o that_o duty_n which_o lie_v upon_o all_o christian_n to_o have_v but_o one_o communion_n and_o discipline_n among_o they_o be_v no_o dispensation_n unto_o any_o party_n or_o number_n of_o they_o to_o smite_v their_o brethren_n with_o the_o fist_n of_o uncharitableness_n or_o to_o dismount_v they_o from_o their_o ministerial_a stand_n in_o the_o church_n because_o they_o will_v not_o or_o rather_o can_v knit_v and_o join_v in_o the_o same_o communion_n and_o discipline_n with_o they_o nay_o fourthly_a that_o very_o tie_v of_o duty_n which_o lie_v upon_o all_o christian_n to_o have_v but_o one_o and_o the_o same_o communion_n and_o discipline_n among_o they_o carry_v this_o engagement_n upon_o they_o all_o along_o with_o it_o to_o show_v all_o love_n to_o use_v all_o manner_n of_o gentleness_n and_o long_o suffer_v towards_o those_o that_o be_v contrary_a mind_v to_o they_o either_o in_o the_o one_o or_o in_o the_o other_o since_o love_n be_v not_o only_o a_o soder_v and_o unite_n affection_n but_o further_a commend_v the_o person_n in_o who_o it_o be_v find_v as_o one_o to_o who_o god_n have_v appear_v and_o who_o have_v be_v teach_v by_o he_o therefore_o five_o and_o last_o to_o make_v the_o engagement_n that_o lie_v upon_o all_o christian_n to_o have_v but_o one_o communion_n and_o discipline_n a_o ground_n and_o reason_n why_o such_o as_o differ_v from_o other_o about_o these_o shall_v be_v evil_a entreat_v suppress_v keep_v under_o hatch_n or_o the_o like_a be_v as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v plead_v that_o natural_a affection_n which_o a_o parent_n owe_v unto_o his_o child_n for_o a_o ground_n and_o motive_n why_o he_o shall_v sharp_o scourge_v they_o when_o they_o be_v sick_a and_o weak_a his_o fourteen_o reason_n be_v of_o a_o unknown_a strength_n at_o least_o to_o i_o if_o i_o be_v a_o magistrate_n answer_v his_o 14._o reason_n answer_v i_o shall_v never_o the_o more_o know_v how_o to_o prepare_v to_o battle_n against_o the_o apologist_n or_o any_o other_o godly_a person_n for_o the_o sound_n of_o this_o trumpet_n sure_o of_o all_o the_o rest_n this_o reason_n will_v never_o be_v accessary_a to_o the_o undo_n of_o these_o man_n however_o let_v a_o poor_a man_n be_v hear_v in_o his_o cause_n the_o reason_n then_o with_o all_o the_o help_v it_o be_v capable_a of_o riseth_z up_z but_o thus_o if_o church_n have_v discipline_n or_o government_n different_a in_o their_o species_n than_o the_o church_n must_v be_v different_a in_o their_o species_n also_o but_o the_o consequent_a be_v false_a since_o there_o be_v but_o one_o church_n ergo_fw-la apologisme_n be_v intolerable_a they_o that_o can_v gather_v this_o conclusion_n out_o of_o the_o premise_n may_v very_o well_o hope_v to_o gather_v grape_n of_o thorn_n and_o fig_n of_o thistle_n the_o consequent_a in_o this_o argument_n which_o the_o disputer_n say_v be_v false_a be_v this_o church_n must_v be_v different_a in_o their_o species_n if_o the_o meaning_n of_o this_o consequent_a be_v that_o there_o be_v a_o absolute_a necessity_n that_o church_n shall_v differ_v specie_fw-la one_o from_o another_o the_o disputant_n be_v in_o the_o truth_n in_o say_v the_o consequent_a be_v false_a or_o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v that_o church_n ought_v to_o differ_v specie_fw-la one_o from_o another_o the_o same_o verdict_n may_v still_o pass_v upon_o it_o but_o upon_o that_o supposition_n which_o be_v make_v in_o the_o antecedent_n of_o this_o argument_n viz._n that_o these_o church_n have_v discipline_n or_o government_n different_a in_o their_o species_n the_o consequent_a be_v not_o only_o true_a but_o necessary_o true_a and_o that_o upon_o the_o disputant_n own_o ground_n which_o be_v that_o all_o collective_a body_n that_o be_v govern_v be_v difference_v specie_fw-la by_o their_o different_a government_n but_o be_v the_o consequent_a or_o be_v the_o antecedent_n or_o be_v the_o consequence_n be_v any_o thing_n be_v nothing_o or_o be_v every_o thing_n in_o the_o premise_n either_o true_a or_o false_a why_o shoâ—â—d_v not_o the_o apologist_n be_v tolerate_v notwithstanding_o be_v the_o sun_n in_o aries_n or_o be_v it_o in_o taurus_n or_o be_v it_o in_o capricorn_n why_o shall_v not_o a._n s._n be_v tolerate_v to_o write_v more_o book_n for_o the_o cause_n presbyterian_a notwithstanding_o i_o hear_v that_o upon_o the_o applause_n and_o approbation_n of_o this_o by_o his_o party_n he_o have_v since_o put_v forth_o his_o hand_n to_o another_o 3._o acts._n 12.2_o 3._o as_o herod_n see_v
the_o assembly_n be_v they_o all_o a_o private_a particular_a assembly_n a._n s._n sundry_a reason_n make_v i_o to_o suspect_v that_o you_o will_v say_v more_o than_o you_o say_v m._n s._n and_o what_o then_o do_v you_o think_v by_o this_o your_o reply_n to_o hush_v they_o no_o ready_a way_n to_o make_v they_o or_o their_o friend_n to_o say_v more_o then_o either_o they_o intend_v or_o you_o will_v willing_o hear_v yet_o confess_v one_o truth_n that_o there_o have_v be_v two_o reply_n to_o they_o already_o yet_o they_o have_v print_v no_o reply_n that_o we_o know_v of_o for_o that_o you_o mean_v i_o suppose_v by_o say_v more_o else_o god_n forbid_v but_o they_o shall_v speak_v and_o speak_v in_o the_o assembly_n too_o though_o one_o say_v he_o have_v much_o ado_n to_o forbear_v move_v to_o have_v one_o of_o they_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o assembly_n for_o propound_v his_o reason_n to_o the_o question_n to_o which_o he_o be_v call_v by_o order_n of_o parliament_n but_o for_o you_o a._n s._n you_o will_v make_v a_o stone_n speak_v as_o they_o say_v if_o you_o believe_v not_o the_o poet_n si_fw-mi natura_fw-la negate_fw-la facit_fw-la indignatio_fw-la versum_fw-la yet_o believe_v the_o scripture_n r._n eccles_n 7.7_o m._n r._n oppression_n will_v make_v a_o wise_a man_n mad_a but_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o now_o of_o one_o that_o be_v of_o your_o judgement_n for_o the_o presbytery_n but_o by_o far_o a_o more_o solid_a and_o discreet_a man_n then_o yourself_o that_o say_v there_o be_v this_o good_a by_o the_o apology_n that_o therein_o the_o five_o minister_n have_v wrap_v up_o themselves_o that_o they_o can_v not_o say_v more_o in_o substance_n often_o then_o be_v there_o in_o express_v nor_o can_v they_o recede_v from_o that_o compliance_n with_o you_o they_o have_v therein_o profess_v so_o you_o see_v you_o presbyterian_o may_v differ_v among_o yourselves_o no_o wonder_n therefore_o if_o from_o the_o five_o minister_n a._n s._n i_o love_v you_o all_o from_o my_o heart_n m._n s._n good_a reader_n compare_v this_o man_n book_n with_o his_o heart_n and_o good_a writer_n if_o i_o do_v not_o miscall_a thou_o judge_v whether_o in_o your_o book_n you_o act_v the_o part_n of_o a_o love_a physician_n be_v your_o potion_n never_o so_o cordial_a in_o that_o you_o administer_v it_o scald_a hot_a though_o you_o flatter_v till_o it_o be_v pour_v down_o the_o throat_n a._n s._n the_o will_n be_v but_o a_o blind_a faculty_n m._n s._n now_o where_o be_v your_o philosophy_n be_v there_o a_o unreasonable_a faculty_n in_o the_o reasonable_a soul_n that_o have_v no_o light_n but_o by_o participation_n this_o be_v news_n to_o considerate_a philosopher_n that_o do_v not_o take_v thing_n upon_o trust_n by_o tradition_n of_o speculative_a untried_a principle_n a._n s._n my_o main_a aim_n have_v be_v god_n glory_n and_o the_o edification_n of_o weak_a brethren_n who_o may_v have_v be_v mist_v by_o your_o most_o learned_a discourse_n m._n s._n yet_o this_o man_n in_o his_o 1_o annot._n pag._n 4._o say_v it_o come_v very_o short_a be_v weak_a and_o slender_a and_o no_o way_n satisfactory_a the_o man_n make_v nothing_o of_o contradiction_n upon_o contradiction_n for_o even_o here_o also_o be_v a_o contradiction_n or_o two_o more_o be_v the_o five_o minister_n discourse_v most_o learned_a and_o yet_o error_n too_o as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o your_o epistle_n and_o be_v they_o most_o learned_a and_o yet_o less_o learned_a than_o you_o but_o indeed_o say_v one_o he_o make_v a_o great_a noise_n of_o learning_n in_o his_o book_n rattle_v his_o sophistry-term_n so_o that_o though_o he_o have_v fail_v in_o his_o divinity_n physic_n and_o philosophy_n hitherto_o yet_o he_o will_v make_v we_o know_v that_o he_o be_v a_o notable_a logician_n or_o he_o will_v make_v our_o ear_n ring_v with_o unenglish_v ergo_n with_o a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la affirmatiuè_fw-la with_o a_o posse_fw-la ad_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la valet_fw-la consequentia_fw-la non_fw-la possibile_fw-la est_fw-la esse_fw-la 54._o page_z of_o his_o book_n 53_o 54._o possibile_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la totum_fw-la totaliter_fw-la materialiter_fw-la dispositiuè_fw-la with_o his_o modification_n assumption_n etc._n etc._n and_o multitude_n of_o such_o lumber_n to_o the_o weak_a brethren_n o_o say_v one_o that_o some_o body_n will_v earnest_o entreat_v he_o to_o speak_v serious_o whether_o he_o think_v in_o his_o conscience_n this_o to_o be_v his_o direct_a way_n to_o that_o end_n he_o here_o profess_v namely_o to_o edify_v weak_a brethren_n alas_o such_o thing_n to_o they_o if_o english_v be_v but_o gibberish_n and_o as_o charm_n a._n s._n esteem_v that_o during_o the_o rest_n of_o my_o pilgrimage_n which_o can_v be_v long_o have_v no_o other_o thing_n to_o do_v i_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o do_v this_o m._n s._n i_o will_v tell_v you_o what_o one_o say_v to_o this_o will_v god_n he_o have_v rather_o no_o patient_a than_o he_o shall_v have_v no_o patience_n than_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v his_o patient_n see_v he_o have_v no_o more_o skill_n in_o her_o grief_n that_o he_o have_v no_o client_n then_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o treacherous_a advocate_n that_o he_o will_v rather_o do_v nothing_o then_o evil_a for_o it_o be_v a_o sad_a thing_n say_v he_o that_o good_a man_n near_o their_o end_n shall_v write_v some_o sorry_a piece_n to_o be_v a_o monument_n of_o their_o decline_a in_o their_o last_o day_n and_o of_o their_o disgrace_n before_o they_o be_v bury_v as_o a_o worthy_a man_n a_o little_a afore_o his_o death_n write_v in_o defence_n of_o ceremony_n for_o which_o former_o he_o have_v suffer_v a_o warning_n to_o a._n s._n and_o all_o good_a man_n that_o their_o good_a work_n shall_v be_v more_o at_o last_o and_o so_o to_o leave_v that_o character_n to_o the_o hypocrite_n as_o one_o observe_v to_o live_v smooth_o towards_o his_o end_n to_o do_v sory_o and_o then_o to_o die_v sudden_o a._n s._n his_o consideration_n m._n s._n true_o call_v interrogatories_n which_o a._n s._n put_v to_o the_o five_o minister_n as_o if_o he_o be_v already_o get_v into_o the_o chair_n etc._n etc._n a._n s._n his_o first_o consideration_n whether_o in_o any_o ecclesiastical_a or_o politic_a assembly_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n wherein_o thing_n be_v carry_v by_o plurality_n of_o voice_n it_o be_v ordinary_a for_o any_o inconsiderable_a number_n thereof_o to_o join_v in_o a_o particular_a combination_n among_o themselves_o and_o therein_o to_o take_v particular_a resolution_n m._n s._n we_o have_v hear_v of_o some_o parliament_n in_o europe_n that_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n be_v so_o constitute_v that_o if_o a_o vote_n pass_v where_o sum_n conscience_n among_o they_o can_v yield_v to_o they_o may_v modest_o enter_v in_o the_o house_n their_o dissent_n from_o it_o but_o whether_o this_o be_v so_o or_o not_o the_o five_o minister_n do_v not_o take_v particular_a resolution_n and_o publish_v they_o in_o print_n to_o cross_v the_o proceed_n and_o dispute_n of_o the_o assembly_n or_o state_n a_o question_n yet_o unresolved_a by_o the_o assembly_n but_o only_o tell_v the_o kingdom_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la what_o they_o have_v hold_v and_o practise_v and_o therefore_o in_o the_o apology_n speak_v in_o the_o past_a time_n with_o some_o very_o few_o and_o short_a touch_n upon_o what_o ground_n wherein_o they_o declare_v themselves_o to_o close_v near_o with_o the_o assembly_n be_v they_o all_o presbyterian_a as_o we_o know_v the_o contrary_a then_o thousand_o ever_o think_v they_o will_v and_o withal_o they_o do_v profess_v themselves_o so_o unwedded_a to_o their_o former_a practice_n and_o so_o far_o from_o overween_v their_o present_a judgement_n walk_v see_v apol._n p_o 10._o it_o be_v their_o second_o golden_a rule_n by_o which_o they_o walk_v that_o upon_o discovery_n of_o more_o light_n they_o be_v most_o willing_a to_o open_v their_o eye_n upon_o it_o and_o let_v it_o in_o and_o therefore_o you_o a._n s._n have_v do_v very_o ill_o to_o discourage_v they_o as_o much_o as_o in_o you_o be_v from_o that_o sweetness_n of_o spirit_n that_o have_v appear_v in_o all_o their_o writing_n and_o carriage_n but_o our_o main_a answer_n to_o this_o your_o consideration_n which_o make_v it_o a_o gross_a inconsideration_n if_o not_o untruth_n be_v this_o that_o the_o assembly_n of_o themselves_o be_v not_o to_o conclude_v thing_n by_o a_o mere_a plurality_n of_o vote_n if_o you_o dare_v believe_v the_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n who_o word_n be_v to_o confer_v and_o treat_v among_o themselves_o of_o such_o matter_n and_o thing_n touch_v and_o concern_v the_o liturgy_n 4.5_o oâ—â—â—in_o for_o the_o call_n of_o the_o assembly_n page_n 4.5_o discipline_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n or_o the_o vindication_n and_o clear_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o
up_o josh_n 22.11_o negative_o the_o outward_a act_n either_o of_o speak_v such_o evil_a opinion_n or_o do_v such_o evil_a fact_n may_v be_v restrain_v and_o yet_o no_o violence_n do_v to_o the_o conscience_n to_o act_v contrary_a to_o its_o inward_a dictate_v and_o persuasion_n be_v not_o yet_o convince_v they_o be_v evil_a this_o be_v only_o a_o suspension_n and_o intermission_n of_o the_o outward_a man_n from_o act_v towards_o other_o not_o a_o coaction_n or_o subversion_n of_o the_o inward_a act_n of_o judgement_n and_o understanding_n in_o himself_o and_o so_o jew_n or_o &c._n &c._n may_v be_v permit_v among_o christian_n so_o as_o they_o do_v not_o manifest_v their_o error_n and_o defiance_n against_o the_o fundamental_a truth_n that_o so_o they_o may_v hear_v and_o believe_v and_o be_v convert_v or_o how_o else_o shall_v they_o be_v win_v to_o the_o truth_n and_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n fulfil_v touch_v their_o call_n 2._o the_o spread_a and_o practise_v of_o opinion_n that_o apparent_o tend_v to_o libertine-licencious_a ungodliness_n ought_v not_o quiet_o to_o be_v permit_v they_o can_v be_v suffer_v but_o with_o sin_n and_o reproof_n from_o christ_n to_o the_o sufferer_n of_o they_o rev._n 2._o v._n 14._o to_o v._o 21._o where_n two_o church_n viz._n pergamos_n and_o thyatirâ—_n be_v charge_v with_o sin_n and_o reprove_v by_o christ_n for_o have_v among_o they_o and_o suffer_a balaamive_n nicolaitan_n and_o jezabellians_n to_o vent_v such_o opinion_n viz._n 1._o that_o under_o pretence_n of_o liberty_n and_o charity_n wife_n be_v to_o be_v common_a 2._o under_o pretence_n of_o avoid_v scandal_n and_o peril_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o christian_n to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o the_o sacred_a thing_n idolatry_n and_o joyiall_a banquet_n of_o pagan_n revel_n vâ—de_a port._n in_o 2_o revel_n as_o thing_n indifferent_a these_o in_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v if_o refractory_a out_o of_o the_o church_n these_o not_o of_o any_o church_n if_o they_o will_v not_o be_v convince_v by_o conference_n with_o the_o church_n ought_v to_o be_v restrain_v from_o their_o evil_a practice_n by_o the_o magistrate_n according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o pious_a king_n reform_v abuse_n upon_o the_o ground_n of_o moses_n pen_v of_o politic_a law_n to_o punish_v they_o that_o can_v not_o be_v account_v meet_a member_n of_o a_o church_n for_o their_o lewd_a life_n 3._o for_o those_o opinion_n that_o be_v neither_o against_o fundamental_o nor_o tend_v to_o licentiousness_n but_o stâ—ive_v to_o beat_v out_o truth_n thereby_o to_o creep_v close_o to_o the_o rule_n to_o walk_v more_o even_o in_o the_o path_n both_o of_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n and_o will_v in_o both_o by_o a_o strict_a bond_n among_o themselves_o walk_v as_o exact_o as_o by_o any_o power_n ecclesiastical_a without_o they_o set_v above_o they_o a_o their_o own_o wilâ—_n shall_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o other_o law_n i_o say_v such_o opinion_n be_v not_o to_o be_v restrain_v either_o from_o all_o divulge_v or_o practise_v that_o we_o can_v find_v by_o any_o scripture_n we_o wave_v the_o question_n now_o which_o be_v the_o only_a true_a form_n of_o discipline_n and_o put_v the_o case_n in_o general_a what_o opinion_n and_o practice_n that_o be_v conscientious_o take_v up_o aught_o to_o be_v leave_v unrestrained_a to_o which_o our_o answer_n be_v that_o this_o sort_n here_o be_v they_o or_o else_o how_o shall_v there_o be_v a_o try_v all_o thing_n a_o try_v of_o the_o spirit_n a_o discovery_n of_o new_a light_n and_o present_a truth_n prophesy_v to_o be_v reveal_v in_o their_o several_a period_n of_o time_n if_o any_o be_v contrary-minded_n we_o shall_v be_v glad_a to_o hear_v their_o ground_n till_o they_o produce_v those_o and_o make_v they_o clear_v to_o the_o church_n we_o ask_v our_o due_n a_o quiet_a permission_n to_o enjoy_v that_o liberty_n which_o christ_n have_v buy_v and_o the_o gospel_n bring_v and_o not_o to_o be_v jeer_v by_o any_o a._n s._n as_o here_o who_o tell_v the_o five_o minister_n that_o to_o live_v quiet_o without_o trouble_v the_o state_n they_o may_v have_v it_o appear_o unsought_a let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o here_o be_v not_o a_o saucy_a jeer_n both_o in_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o speech_n i_o will_v a._n s._n have_v make_v use_n of_o that_o toleration_n and_o then_o he_o have_v not_o so_o intolerable_o trouble_v a_o kingdom_n or_o else_o if_o he_o have_v no_o stomach_n at_o first_o to_o be_v quiet_a if_o for_o some_o day_n he_o have_v but_o have_v somewhat_o appear_o allow_v he_o to_o bite_v upon_o somewhat_o appear_o to_o quench_v his_o thirst_n he_o will_v have_v have_v a_o stomach_n rather_o to_o eat_v and_o drink_v then_o bite_v and_o jeer_v he_o be_v so_o passionate_a that_o he_o do_v not_o remember_v what_o he_o say_v in_o one_o page_n so_o as_o it_o may_v be_v reconcile_v to_o another_o here_o he_o say_v the_o parliament_n be_v wise_a enough_o and_o know_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n you_o may_v perceive_v his_o meaning_n by_o read_v his_o interrogatory_n yet_o in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o the_o inscript_n of_o the_o apology_n pag._n 5._o he_o suppose_v that_o the_o parliament_n shall_v arrogate_v if_o it_o shall_v take_v upon_o it_o any_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n if_o he_o have_v any_o scholastic_a quillet_n to_o reconcile_v this_o within_o himself_o it_o be_v more_o than_o the_o common_a people_n and_o weak_a brethren_n he_o write_v to_o know_v of_o m._n s._n note_v that_o a._n s._n bath_n one_o consideration_n more_o but_o be_v it_o not_o that_o it_o it_o do_v answer_v itself_o i_o shall_v have_v be_v too_o weary_a of_o his_o former_a inconsiderate_a consideration_n to_o have_v stay_v here_o be_v eager_a to_o come_v to_o his_o book_n 1._o he_o say_v that_o they_o aim_v at_o separation_n he_o mean_v the_o five_o minister_n though_o they_o disclaim_v it_o in_o their_o apology_n unless_o to_o separate_v as_o our_o brethren_n the_o scot_n do_v from_o prelatical_a coaction_n shall_v tolerate_v some_o small_a pretend_a defect_n they_o be_v but_o pretend_v yet_o he_o say_v not_o approve_v by_o those_o from_o who_o they_o desire_v to_o separate_v 2._o he_o say_v the_o church_n from_o which_o the_o five_o minister_n will_v separate_v testify_v a_o great_a desire_n to_o reform_v defect_n yet_o those_o defect_n say_v he_o be_v but_o pretend_v to_o be_v in_o it_o 3._o he_o think_v that_o the_o five_o minister_n shall_v do_v better_a to_o stay_v in_o the_o church_n to_o reform_v abuse_n then_o by_o separation_n to_o let_v the_o church_n perish_v in_o abuse_n now_o he_o suppose_v destroy_v abuse_n and_o will_v have_v the_o five_o minister_n stay_v to_o help_v reform_v yet_o he_o be_v angry_a with_o their_o apology_n that_o do_v but_o sigh_v forth_o a_o intimation_n of_o need_n of_o reformation_n and_o so_o angry_a that_o he_o will_v as_o you_o hear_v in_o his_o second_o consideration_n it_o be_v so_o long_o since_o that_o he_o have_v forget_v it_o have_v the_o five_o minister_n quit_v the_o assembly_n a._n s._n his_o annotation_n upon_o the_o inscription_n of_o the_o apologist_n narration_n m.s._n if_o i_o think_v a.s._n have_v any_o skill_n in_o physic_n i_o will_v ask_v he_o whether_o by_o annotation_n he_o mean_v as_o the_o physician_n speak_v annotationes_fw-la incompressas_fw-la becticarum_fw-la febrium_fw-la indicia_fw-la violent_a annotation_n be_v sigâ—es_n of_o a_o hectic_a fever_n in_o his_o vital_a part_n a._n s._n all_o apology_n suppose_v some_o accusation_n which_o here_o appear_v none_o m._n s._n not_o to_o meddle_v with_o your_o engâ—ish_n which_o be_v scarce_o grammatical_a you_o be_v entreat_v to_o speak_v true_a do_v not_o the_o apology_n begin_v and_o end_v with_o sad_a complaint_n remember_v our_o answer_n to_o your_o four_o consideration_n a._n s._n if_o intend_v for_o a_o answer_n to_o that_o which_o have_v be_v write_v against_o your_o opinion_n it_o come_v very_o short_a weak_a and_o slender_a m._n s._n why_o then_o will_v you_o fight_v with_o a_o fly_n the_o mouse_n tell_v the_o elephant_n that_o he_o will_v never_o get_v honour_n in_o kill_v a_o silly_a mouse_n why_o do_v you_o bestow_v so_o much_o oratory_n and_o logic_n to_o clap_v it_o and_o fisticuffe_n it_o a._n s._n neither_o be_v it_o a_o mere_a apologetical_a narration_n but_o also_o a_o grievous_a accusation_n against_o all_o our_o church_n as_o destitute_a of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n m._n s._n this_o indeed_o be_v a_o false_a accusation_n as_o we_o have_v clear_v it_o in_o our_o answer_n to_o your_o fiâ—t_z consideration_n a._n s._n the_o apology_n say_v humble_o submit_v etc._n etc._n so_o humble_o submit_v to_o the_o honourable_a house_n of_o parliament_n as_o if_o they_o submit_v not_o themselves_o to_o your_o
but_o condemn_v they_o he_o that_o intend_v to_o make_v hoop_n of_o a_o clean_a streight-bodied_n tree_n must_v in_o the_o work_n of_o it_o alter_v the_o comely_a shape_n and_o straightness_n of_o it_o wherein_o it_o grow_v and_o bend_v and_o crook_n and_o bow_v quite_o round_o all_o that_o he_o employ_v of_o it_o to_o such_o a_o purpose_n whereas_o he_o who_o art_n and_o intent_n be_v to_o make_v javelin_n lance_n pike_n or_o the_o like_a of_o such_o a_o tree_n have_v no_o occasion_n to_o alter_v the_o native_a shape_n or_o figure_n of_o it_o in_o point_n of_o straightness_n because_o nature_n itself_o have_v fit_v it_o to_o his_o hand_n in_o this_o respect_n for_o such_o use_n and_o purpose_n as_o these_o nay_o this_o man_n shall_v do_v against_o himself_o if_o he_o shall_v alter_v they_o in_o like_a manner_n they_o who_o seek_v themselves_o in_o way_n and_o end_n which_o contradict_v the_o lawful_a peace_n and_o comfort_n of_o other_o man_n if_o withal_o they_o desire_v to_o have_v their_o proceed_n countenance_v and_o attest_v by_o the_o scripture_n for_o just_a and_o good_a they_o must_v of_o necessity_n suborn_v they_o and_o make_v they_o speak_v what_o the_o holy_a ghost_n never_o mean_v they_o shall_v speak_v whereas_o those_o man_n who_o value_v not_o regard_v not_o themselves_o but_o in_o their_o order_n and_o due_a subordination_n and_o be_v willing_a to_o gird_v themselves_o and_o serve_v till_o god_n and_o man_n have_v first_o eat_v and_o can_v be_v content_a with_o the_o reversion_n and_o break_a meat_n of_o their_o table_n be_v they_o never_o so_o mean_a these_o man_n i_o say_v need_v not_o solicit_v or_o importune_v the_o scripture_n for_o their_o testimony_n or_o compliance_n with_o they_o in_o their_o way_n because_o their_o native_a inspiration_n from_o god_n lead_v they_o willing_o yea_o rejoice_o yea_o triumphant_o hereunto_o such_o man_n shall_v but_o prevaricate_v with_o themselves_o and_o their_o own_o end_n if_o they_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o make_v one_o hair_n of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o scripture_n either_o black_a or_o white_a which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v not_o make_v such_o to_o their_o hand_n therefore_o while_o some_o man_n shall_v seek_v to_o adorn_v their_o own_o name_n and_o reputation_n with_o the_o plunder_v and_o spoil_n of_o other_o man_n and_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o their_o own_o greatness_n in_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o lawful_a comfort_n and_o peace_n of_o other_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n of_o a_o general_a or_o through_o accommodation_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n it_o be_v impossible_a that_o such_o man_n shall_v comport_v with_o the_o truth_n in_o their_o way_n and_o consequent_o with_o those_o who_o embrace_v the_o truth_n nor_o will_v any_o method_n of_o violence_n as_o either_o imprison_a fine_v crush_a suppress_v banish_v cut_v off_o by_o death_n or_o the_o like_a be_v able_a to_o advance_v that_o unity_n and_o accord_n which_o we_o all_o lust_n after_o though_o some_o in_o god_n way_n other_o in_o their_o own_o the_o very_a ghost_n and_o shadow_n and_o memory_n of_o those_o that_o shall_v suffer_v in_o any_o of_o these_o kind_n for_o conscience_n towards_o god_n will_v be_v as_o so_o many_o spirit_n of_o division_n dissension_n and_o distraction_n among_o those_o that_o will_v choose_v no_o other_o arbitrator_n to_o compromise_n their_o difference_n but_o the_o sword_n and_o blood_n another_o sign_n of_o those_o halcyon_n day_n approach_v so_o much_o desire_v by_o we_o all_o wherein_o all_o gust_n and_o wind_n &_o storm_n of_o contrary_a doctrine_n opinion_n and_o sect_n in_o religion_n shall_v be_v turn_v into_o a_o sweet_a calm_a of_o a_o universal_a unity_n and_o accord_n be_v this_o when_o apostle_n prophet_n evangelist_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n shall_v be_v no_o more_o turn_v into_o counsel_n synod_n and_o secular_a arm_n i_o mean_v when_o man_n shall_v be_v free_o permit_v without_o fear_n or_o danger_n of_o molestation_n to_o consult_v with_o the_o apostle_n prophet_n etc._n etc._n of_o what_o religion_n it_o be_v best_o for_o they_o to_o be_v without_o have_v their_o judgement_n emancipate_v forestall_v and_o overawe_v by_o the_o definitive_a and_o compulsory_a determination_n and_o allowance_n of_o other_o man_n the_o reason_n hereof_o be_v because_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o apostle_n prophet_n &_o evangelist_n with_o the_o ministry_n of_o faithful_a pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v sanctify_v and_o set_v apart_o by_o god_n for_o this_o very_a end_n and_o purpose_n namely_o the_o perfect_a the_o saint_n 13._o ephes_n 4_o 13._o etc._n etc._n till_o they_o all_o come_v into_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o whilst_o counsel_n synod_n etc._n etc._n shall_v intrude_v or_o step_v in_o as_o new_a apostle_n prophet_n and_o evangelist_n of_o another_o order_n between_o those_o apostle_n prophet_n and_o evangelist_n and_o those_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v for_o the_o settle_n of_o a_o universal_a peace_n and_o unity_n throughout_o all_o the_o church_n of_o his_o saint_n in_o due_a time_n to_o interrupt_v &_o intercept_v they_o in_o their_o work_n and_o way_n so_o that_o they_o can_v never_o have_v the_o judgement_n &_o conscience_n of_o man_n in_o their_o native_a ingenuity_n and_o freedom_n to_o work_v upon_o but_o still_o upon_o the_o disadvantage_n of_o synodical_a impression_n and_o forestallment_n partly_o with_o fear_n partly_o with_o favour_n partly_o with_o hope_n and_o conceit_n of_o the_o truth_n there_o be_v little_a hope_n of_o see_v the_o vision_n of_o joy_n and_o glory_n in_o the_o world_n i_o mean_v the_o saint_n and_o servant_n of_o jesus_n christ_n universal_o kiss_v and_o embrace_v one_o another_o in_o the_o arm_n of_o unity_n truth_n and_o peace_n it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o wash_v in_o abanah_n or_o pharphar_n when_o only_o the_o water_n of_o jordan_n be_v sanctify_v for_o the_o cure_n to_o commit_v adultery_n be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o increase_v though_o flesh_n and_o blood_n shall_v determine_v for_o it_o they_o shall_v eat_v say_v god_n and_o not_o have_v enough_o they_o shall_v commit_v adultery_n and_o not_o increase_v because_o they_o have_v leave_v off_o to_o take_v heed_n unto_o the_o lord_n that_o be_v because_o they_o have_v substitute_v their_o own_o wisdom_n and_o invention_n in_o stead_n of_o he_o for_o bring_v their_o desire_n and_o end_n to_o pass_v hos_n 4.10_o three_o and_o last_o when_o the_o generality_n of_o man_n profess_v godliness_n and_o religion_n shall_v be_v content_a to_o furnish_v themselves_o with_o religion_n i_o mean_v with_o knowledge_n in_o religion_n by_o small_a parcel_n as_o the_o stock_n of_o their_o own_o judgement_n and_o understanding_n shall_v be_v able_a from_o time_n to_o time_n to_o accommodate_v thâ—m_n and_o shall_v make_v scruple_n of_o take_v it_o up_o by_o whole_a sale_n from_o synod_n counsel_n and_o book_n only_o for_o ease_n and_o cheapness_n sake_n this_o also_o be_v as_o the_o put_v forth_o of_o the_o figtree_n which_o show_v the_o summer_n of_o a_o universal_a accord_n among_o the_o saint_n to_o be_v at_o hand_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o god_n have_v promise_v and_o will_v perform_v according_o that_o if_o man_n shall_v apply_v their_o heart_n to_o understanding_n and_o shall_v cry_v after_o knowledge_n and_o seek_v she_o as_o silver_n and_o search_v for_o she_o as_o for_o hide_a treasure_n they_o shall_v thâ—n_o understand_v the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o find_v the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n prov._n 2.2_o 3_o 4._o but_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n make_v that_o they_o who_o to_o favour_n themselves_o and_o to_o gratify_v the_o flesh_n and_o to_o save_v the_o labour_n of_o seek_v and_o search_v after_o knowledge_n shall_v take_v in_o the_o dictate_v and_o resolution_n of_o man_n and_o call_v they_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n without_o any_o more_o ado_n shall_v either_o find_v the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n or_o true_a knowledge_n of_o god_n now_o till_o man_n shall_v general_o find_v the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o god_n which_o be_v not_o like_a to_o be_v out_o of_o that_o way_n which_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n mention_v have_v sanctify_v thereunto_o there_o will_v be_v little_a hope_n of_o the_o general_a meeting_n of_o man_n in_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n as_o be_v former_o argue_v in_o another_o of_o these_o sign_n four_o and_o last_o when_o christian_a state_n and_o man_n of_o sound_a judgement_n great_a learning_n part_n and_o ability_n therein_o shall_v give_v free_a liberty_n to_o man_n look_v upon_o as_o opposite_a in_o judgement_n to_o the_o truth_n to_o publish_v and_o open_o declare_v the_o ground_n &_o reason_n of_o their_o judgement_n in_o each_o particular_a and_o not_o compel_v they_o either_o to_o keep_v they_o burn_v or_o glow_v in_o their_o own_o breast_n or_o else_o to_o propagate_v
bear_v in_o hand_n by_o those_o with_o who_o eye_n he_o see_v in_o such_o case_n be_v schismatical_a erroneous_a and_o contrary_a unto_o god_n may_v very_o possible_o be_v the_o way_n of_o god_n and_o truth_n of_o god_n such_o man_n judgement_n of_o they_o notwithstanding_o for_o first_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o man_n be_v not_o apostolical_a or_o infallible_a a._n s._n himself_o who_o make_v his_o demand_n for_o presbyterian_a sovereignty_n as_o high_a as_o another_o yet_o dare_v not_o lay_v claim_n to_o this_o crown_n therefore_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o they_o to_o be_v in_o a_o misprision_n about_o some_o question_n or_o controversall_a point_n in_o religion_n second_o frequent_a experience_n show_v that_o a_o minor_a part_n yea_o a_o party_n for_o number_v inconsiderable_a of_o godly_a person_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n may_v have_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n among_o they_o in_o some_o particular_n before_o the_o generality_n or_o major_a part_n of_o this_o church_n come_v to_o be_v enlighten_v or_o interest_v in_o it_o for_o a_o proof_n whereof_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la we_o need_v go_v no_o further_o then_o to_o that_o party_n of_o godly_a person_n in_o the_o land_n who_o stand_v up_o in_o queen_n elizabeth_n &_o king_n james_n his_o day_n for_o presbyterial_a government_n when_o as_o the_o far_o great_a part_n both_o of_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v in_o their_o judgement_n opposite_a hereunto_o and_o whole_o episcopal_a so_o that_o have_v that_o queen_n or_o king_n or_o any_o parliament_n under_o they_o go_v about_o to_o suppress_v that_o party_n which_o yet_o be_v then_o look_v upon_o as_o schismatical_a factious_a and_o erroneous_a they_o have_v according_a to_o a.s._n his_o judgement_n touch_v the_o judgement_n of_o those_o man_n fight_v against_o god_n and_o seek_v to_o pluck_v up_o that_o which_o he_o have_v plant_v yea_o three_o and_o last_o it_o seldom_o or_o never_o fall_v out_o that_o any_o truth_n which_o have_v for_o a_o long_a time_n be_v under_o hatch_n and_o unknown_a to_o the_o generality_n of_o minister_n and_o other_o learned_a man_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n have_v be_v at_o the_o first_o and_o on_o the_o sudden_a discover_v by_o god_n either_o unto_o the_o generality_n or_o major_a part_n of_o they_o but_o unto_o some_o few_o only_a yea_o and_o sometime_o but_o unto_o one_o for_o a_o season_n by_o and_o from_o who_o he_o be_v please_v to_o propagate_v the_o light_n and_o knowledge_n of_o it_o unto_o more_o afterward_o if_o then_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v rise_v up_o to_o suppress_v this_o truth_n or_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o forth_o unto_o the_o world_n because_o it_o have_v few_o friend_n and_o many_o enemy_n among_o the_o master_n in_o his_o israel_n and_o be_v general_o look_v upon_o as_o a_o schismatical_a and_o erroneous_a opinion_n shall_v he_o not_o in_o gamaliel_n sense_n fight_v against_o god_n the_o householder_n in_o the_o parable_n forbid_v the_o pluck_n up_o of_o the_o tare_n out_o of_o his_o field_n for_o fear_v of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n with_o they_o matth._n 13.29_o 7._o that_o power_n which_o be_v never_o attribute_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n 34._o sect._n 34._o by_o any_o christian_n but_o only_o by_o those_o that_o have_v very_o good_a assurance_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v use_v for_o they_o and_o on_o their_o side_n be_v not_o like_a to_o be_v a_o power_n appertain_v to_o they_o by_o divine_a right_n or_o confer_v upon_o they_o by_o god_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o proposition_n be_v because_o it_o be_v no_o way_n credible_a that_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o so_o many_o age_n as_o be_v bygone_a no_o one_o man_n of_o that_o conscientious_a generation_n of_o saint_n which_o have_v be_v wont_a so_o frequent_o to_o deny_v itself_o even_o unto_o death_n shall_v acknowledge_v such_o a_o power_n in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o do_v by_o divine_a right_n belong_v unto_o he_o only_o because_o such_o a_o acknowledgement_n be_v like_a to_o make_v against_o himself_o therefore_o i_o assume_v but_o that_o coercive_a power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n for_o the_o suppress_n of_o error_n schism_n heresy_n etc._n etc._n be_v never_o attribute_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n by_o any_o christian_a etc._n see_v for_o the_o further_a proof_n of_o the_o minor_a proposition_n mr_n io._n robinson_n essay_n p._n 49.50_o etc._n etc._n but_o only_o by_o those_o that_o be_v very_o confident_a that_o it_o will_v be_v use_v for_o their_o turn_n and_o to_o effect_v their_o desire_n ergo_fw-la a._n s._n himself_o be_v wary_a and_o tender_a above_o measure_n in_o confer_v it_o upon_o he_o distinguish_v once_o and_o again_o and_o the_o three_o time_n also_o upon_o it_o as_o we_o hear_v before_o he_o dare_v let_v he_o have_v it_o yea_o and_o in_o the_o close_a do_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o tell_v he_o that_o except_o he_o be_v presbyterian_a right_n down_o and_o will_v accommodate_v he_o and_o his_o party_n with_o it_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o claim_v it_o 8._o that_o power_n which_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o direct_o tend_v to_o prevent_v 35._o sect._n 35._o hinder_v or_o suppress_v the_o growth_n and_o increase_n of_o the_o light_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n and_o the_o reformation_n of_o such_o thing_n whether_o in_o doctrine_n or_o discipline_n as_o be_v unwarrantable_a therein_o be_v not_o questionless_a of_o any_o divine_a right_n or_o institution_n if_o a._n s._n deny_v this_o proposition_n at_o the_o peril_n of_o his_o modesty_n and_o reputation_n be_v it_o so_o then_o i_o assume_v but_o such_o a_o power_n in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o we_o speak_v of_o direct_o tend_v to_o all_o the_o mischief_n and_o inconvenience_n mention_v ergo_fw-la the_o evidence_n of_o the_o assumption_n be_v this_o when_o man_n be_v obnoxious_a to_o the_o stroke_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o in_o danger_n of_o suffer_v deep_o from_o the_o magistrate_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o shall_v hold_v or_o practice_v in_o religion_n contrary_a unto_o he_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o great_a tentation_n and_o discouragement_n upon_o they_o from_o search_v and_o inquire_v into_o the_o scripture_n after_o a_o more_o exact_a knowledge_n of_o the_o good_a and_o holy_a and_o perfect_a will_n of_o god_n in_o thing_n because_o in_o case_n he_o shall_v discover_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o what_o the_o magistrate_n profess_v he_o must_v run_v the_o hazard_n either_o of_o withhold_a the_o truth_n he_o so_o discover_v in_o unrighteousness_n and_o so_o of_o have_v both_o god_n and_o his_o own_o conscience_n his_o enemy_n or_o else_o of_o have_v his_o bone_n break_v by_o the_o iron_n rod_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n for_o mâ—king_v profession_n of_o any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o he_o profess_v 9_o that_o power_n which_o in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o plain_o and_o palpable_o tend_v to_o the_o gratification_n of_o satan_n 36._o sect._n 36._o carnal_a and_o profane_a man_n be_v not_o certain_o derive_v from_o god_n to_o prove_v this_o proposition_n will_v be_v but_o the_o light_n up_o of_o a_o torch_n to_o see_v the_o sun_n i_o assume_v but_o that_o power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n to_o crush_v schism_n heresy_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v by_o a._n s._n and_o many_o other_o pin_v upon_o the_o magistrate_n sleeve_n be_v a_o power_n of_o this_o tendency_n and_o importance_n in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o ergo._n this_o latter_a proposition_n shine_v clear_a enough_o with_o this_o light_n first_o a_o very_a great_a part_n if_o not_o far_o the_o great_a of_o those_o that_o be_v like_a to_o suffer_v by_o it_o be_v man_n of_o good_a conscience_n and_o true_o fear_v god_n this_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o apologist_n and_o man_n of_o their_o judgement_n who_o a._n s._n himself_o over_z and_o over_o though_o condemn_v himself_o toties_fw-la quoties_fw-la acknowledge_v for_o very_o pious_a and_o godly_a man_n nor_o be_v it_o like_v that_o ordinary_o man_n of_o loose_a or_o no_o conscience_n shall_v delight_v to_o swim_v against_o the_o stream_n either_o of_o greatness_n or_o plurality_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n now_o than_o it_o can_v but_o be_v conceive_v to_o be_v matter_n of_o solemn_a gratification_n to_o satan_n who_o be_v a_o murderer_n â—nd_v blood_n enemy_n to_o the_o saint_n to_o see_v they_o disgrace_v crush_a tread_a and_o trample_v upon_o especial_o by_o those_o who_o god_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v their_o protector_n and_o most_o of_o all_o that_o this_o grievous_a measure_n shall_v be_v measure_v out_o unto_o they_o for_o the_o goodness_n of_o their_o conscience_n towards_o god_n second_o it_o be_v the_o impatient_a and_o importune_a desire_n of_o all_o ignorant_a loose_a lukewarm_a and_o carnal_a professor_n to_o have_v
the_o apologist_n p._n 4._o that_o you_o see_v they_o no_o way_n mind_v to_o submit_v themselves_o in_o these_o matter_n of_o conscience_n to_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o parliament_n i_o very_o believe_v that_o do_v their_o judgement_n depend_v upon_o their_o will_n as_o it_o seem_v you_o do_v they_o will_v have_v be_v as_o free_o willing_a to_o have_v submit_v in_o all_o thing_n unto_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o paâ—liament_n as_o you_o be_v but_o 6._o if_o our_o will_n be_v weak_a 8._o sect._n 8._o and_o thereby_o be_v hinder_v from_o see_v that_o goodly_a vision_n of_o presbyterian_a government_n in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o you_o see_v what_o do_v you_o contribute_v or_o afford_v we_o towards_o the_o heal_n and_o strengthen_v of_o they_o nay_o do_v you_o not_o rather_o occasion_v that_o which_o be_v weak_a in_o this_o kind_n to_o be_v quite_o turn_v out_o of_o the_o way_n for_o when_o you_o tell_v we_o as_o you_o do_v pag._n 13._o 1._o that_o the_o adequate_a end_n of_o your_o presbyterial_a government_n be_v the_o external_a peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n thereof_o consist_v first_o in_o the_o creation_n suspension_n and_o deposition_n of_o church-officer_n second_o in_o determine_v matter_n of_o doctrine_n three_o in_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n concern_v thing_n indifferent_a etc._n etc._n all_o which_o you_o tell_v we_o on_o a_o heap_n pag._n 42._o you_o both_o make_v we_o very_o loath_a and_o unwilling_a to_o find_v your_o government_n there_o and_o withal_o very_o confident_a that_o there_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v for_o first_o 9_o sect._n 9_o be_v the_o adequate_a end_n of_o the_o government_n of_o that_o church_n the_o external_a peace_n of_o the_o church_n have_v it_o nothing_o in_o design_n for_o the_o spiritual_a good_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o member_n of_o it_o in_o knowledge_n faith_n and_o holiness_n be_v the_o power_n of_o the_o high_a priest_n give_v he_o only_o to_o keep_v the_o church_n in_o external_a peace_n i_o think_v that_o to_o provide_v for_o the_o external_a peace_n of_o the_o church_n have_v rather_o appertain_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o government_n then_o to_o the_o ecclesiastic_a and_o it_o be_v the_o apostle_n himself_o that_o thus_o thought_v i_o 1_o tim._n 2.2_o where_o he_o enjoin_v that_o supplication_n prayer_n etc._n etc._n be_v make_v for_o king_n and_o all_o that_o be_v in_o authority_n that_o we_o may_v lead_v a_o quiet_a and_o peaceable_a life_n in_o all_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n second_o neither_o do_v i_o find_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o church_n any_o power_n give_v to_o the_o combine_a ruler_n and_o governor_n thereof_o for_o the_o creation_n suspension_n deposition_n of_o church-officer_n i_o read_v of_o the_o deposition_n of_o a_o church-officer_n and_o no_o mean_a one_o neither_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n 1._o king_n 2.27_o so_o solomon_n cast_v out_o abiathar_n from_o be_v priest_n unto_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n but_o of_o any_o such_o deposition_n by_o the_o combine_a ruler_n of_o that_o church_n i_o remember_v not_o that_o i_o have_v read_v but_o 3._o as_o for_o any_o power_n of_o determine_v matter_n of_o doctrine_n 10._o sect._n 10._o this_o be_v further_a out_o of_o my_o ken_n in_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o church_n than_o any_o thing_n else_o i_o know_v not_o well_o what_o a._n s._n mean_n by_o his_o phrase_n of_o determine_v matter_n of_o doctrine_n but_o in_o my_o notion_n and_o in_o the_o grammatical_a and_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n determine_v the_o claim_n of_o such_o a_o power_n rise_v up_o as_o a_o high_a partition-wall_n between_o i_o and_o his_o government_n if_o by_o a_o power_n of_o determine_v matter_n of_o doctrine_n he_o mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o liberty_n or_o ability_n of_o discuss_v and_o argue_v such_o matter_n and_o of_o recommend_v the_o issue_n and_o result_v of_o such_o discussion_n unto_o the_o church_n as_o consonant_n in_o their_o judgement_n to_o the_o truth_n with_o a_o proposal_n of_o their_o desire_n unto_o the_o church_n to_o consider_v well_o of_o they_o and_o to_o embrace_v they_o if_o they_o can_v so_o judge_v and_o conceive_v of_o they_o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o oppose_v against_o this_o power_n but_o if_o by_o his_o power_n to_o determine_v matter_n of_o religion_n he_o mean_v a_o power_n of_o conclude_v or_o define_v what_o man_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o receive_v and_o believe_v for_o truth_n and_o shall_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o sin_v in_o case_n they_o do_v it_o not_o whether_o they_o see_v sufficient_a ground_n for_o what_o be_v so_o conclude_v and_o obtrude_v upon_o they_o or_o not_o which_o i_o partly_o believe_v to_o be_v a._n s._n his_o sense_n i_o be_o sure_a be_v the_o proper_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n such_o a_o power_n be_v and_o i_o think_v ever_o will_v be_v the_o first-born_a of_o the_o abhorring_n of_o my_o soul_n i_o confess_v i_o can_v be_v over-confident_a that_o a.s._n intend_v the_o residence_n of_o such_o a_o power_n as_o this_o in_o his_o presbyterian_a assembly_n partly_o because_o he_o speak_v somewhat_o like_o a_o man_n in_o this_o behalf_n elsewhere_o suppose_v it_o to_o be_v safe_a even_o for_o a_o few_o man_n to_o dissent_v from_o all_o the_o world_n 29._o paget_n defence_n of_o church_n government_n pag._n 29._o in_o case_n they_o have_v very_o strong_a reason_n for_o their_o dissent_n pag._n 22._o and_o require_v no_o subjection_n in_o particular_a congregation_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o senate_n or_o assembly_n but_o according_a to_o god_n word_n pag._n 28._o i_o trust_v he_o mean_v so_o apprehend_v by_o the_o congregation_n without_o this_o there_o be_v no_o subjection_n according_a to_o god_n word_n and_o again_o pag._n 68_o acknowledge_v it_o as_o a_o undoubted_a maxim_n that_o the_o church_n have_v no_o absolute_a power_n in_o her_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n with_o many_o savoury_a expression_n in_o this_o kind_n partly_o also_o because_o i_o find_v this_o indulgence_n general_o subscribe_v with_o presbyterian_a pen_n that_o the_o authority_n which_o class_n and_o synod_n exercise_v be_v not_o absolute_a nor_o their_o decree_n hold_v to_o be_v infallible_a but_o to_o be_v examine_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o not_o to_o be_v receive_v further_a than_o they_o do_v agree_v bâ—rewith_o and_o yet_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n i_o confess_v that_o i_o can_v conceive_v or_o comprehend_v how_o a.s._n his_o government_n can_v hold_v up_o her_o head_n like_o herself_o if_o this_o iron-mace_n be_v take_v out_o of_o her_o hand_n for_o my_o part_n if_o this_o one_o article_n of_o a_o liberty_n to_o wave_v presbyterial_a injunction_n and_o decision_n in_o case_n of_o a_o non_fw-la liquet_fw-la from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o he_o to_o who_o they_o be_v tender_v will_v be_v but_o assent_v unto_o and_o candid_o keep_v and_o perform_v it_o will_v be_v the_o best_a mediator_n i_o know_v to_o reconcile_v my_o thought_n and_o judgement_n to_o it_o 4._o nor_o can_v i_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n 13._o sect._n 13._o find_v either_o vola_fw-la or_o vestigium_fw-la of_o a_o power_n grant_v unto_o the_o ruler_n thereof_o to_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n concern_v thing_n indifferent_a i_o rather_o find_v a_o prohibition_n serve_v upon_o they_o for_o make_v any_o such_o law_n you_o shall_v put_v nothing_o unto_o the_o word_n which_o i_o command_v you_o nor_o shall_v you_o take_v aught_o therefrom_o etc._n etc._n deut._n 4.2_o so_o again_o chap._n 12.32_o if_o a._n s._n can_v but_o produce_v one_o example_n of_o any_o such_o law_n or_o constitution_n make_v by_o they_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o good_a benefactor_n to_o the_o penury_n of_o my_o notion_n and_o in_o consideration_n thereof_o i_o will_v bestow_v upon_o he_o a_o dash_a out_o of_o this_o piece_n of_o his_o charge_n 5._o and_o last_o 12._o sect._n 12._o in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n the_o prelatical_a school_n see_v a_o vision_n or_o platform_n of_o her_o government_n also_o and_o a.s._n by_o your_o leave_n the_o highpriest_n as_o well_o in_o his_o authority_n as_o in_o his_o robe_n and_o holy_a accoutrement_n do_v far_o more_o plausible_o sympathize_v with_o metropolitical_a state_n and_o greatness_n then_o with_o presbyterial_a for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o discern_v in_o all_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n from_o the_o one_o end_n of_o it_o unto_o the_o other_o any_o piece_n strain_n or_o vein_n of_o such_o a_o pattern_n as_o a._n s._n speak_v of_o sure_o the_o vision_n be_v so_o condition_v as_o not_o to_o be_v see_v but_o upon_o presbyterian_a ground_n the_o man_n do_v wise_o in_o grant_v that_o he_o have_v no_o formal_a or_o express_a pattern_n for_o his_o government_n either_o
that_o his_o butchery_n upon_o james_n please_v the_o people_n put_v forth_o his_o hand_n to_o take_v peter_n also_o but_o be_v there_o nothing_o more_o in_o the_o reason_n then_o this_o true_o if_o a._n s._n hide_v the_o treasure_n of_o his_o mind_n so_o deep_a another_o time_n dig_v for_o it_o who_o will_v for_o i_o for_o this_o once_o i_o have_v take_v pain_n to_o find_v it_o and_o have_v find_v somewhat_o which_o i_o conceive_v be_v like_a to_o it_o if_o not_o identical_o it_o the_o man_n i_o take_v it_o will_v be_v here_o conceive_v to_o reason_n after_o this_o manner_n if_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n ought_v to_o be_v rule_v or_o govern_v only_o with_o one_o species_n or_o kind_n of_o government_n then_o ought_v not_o they_o to_o be_v suffer_v who_o go_v about_o to_o pluralize_v this_o government_n or_o to_o set_v up_o a_o kind_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n specifical_o differ_v from_o the_o government_n more_o general_o practise_v and_o establish_v sed_fw-la verum_fw-la prius_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o posterius_fw-la and_o consequent_o the_o apologist_n be_v man_n that_o will_v do_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v if_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n this_o be_v the_o answer_n first_o the_o consequence_n be_v lame_a and_o halt_v right_o down_o because_o though_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n ought_v to_o be_v govern_v with_o one_o and_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o government_n throughout_o the_o world_n yet_o it_o no_o way_n follow_v from_o hence_o that_o therefore_o that_o government_n which_o be_v more_o general_o establish_v and_o practise_v in_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v that_o specifical_a government_n whereby_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v govern_v if_o this_o consequence_n be_v good_a it_o will_v high_o befriend_v the_o government_n pontifician_n but_o dissolve_v and_o destroy_v the_o government_n presbyterian_a because_o the_o pontifician_n government_n be_v or_o at_o least_o not_o long_o since_o be_v far_o more_o ecumenical_a and_o comprehensive_a than_o the_o presbyterian_a either_o be_v or_o be_v like_a to_o be_v therefore_o in_o frame_v this_o consequence_n the_o man_n have_v give_v sentence_n against_o himself_o and_o his_o own_o belove_a opinion_n touch_v church-discipline_n and_o have_v put_v a_o sword_n into_o the_o pope_n hand_n to_o smite_v as_o well_o the_o consistorian_n as_o the_o congregationall_a government_n and_o second_o suppose_v the_o government_n more_o general_o practise_v in_o the_o world_n be_v that_o very_a kind_n of_o government_n whereby_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n ought_v to_o be_v govern_v yet_o except_o this_o government_n both_o as_o touch_v the_o lawfulness_n and_o necessity_n of_o it_o be_v sufficient_o clear_v to_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o those_o from_o who_o submission_n to_o it_o be_v require_v a_o honour_n whereunto_o a._n s._n his_o government_n have_v not_o yet_o be_v prefer_v by_o all_o his_o great_a friend_n they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v scourge_v with_o â—is_n scorpion_n if_o they_o demur_v a_o while_n about_o their_o submission_n thereunto_o and_o in_o the_o mean_a season_n desire_v to_o live_v under_o such_o a_o government_n wherein_o they_o have_v double_a and_o treble_a satisfaction_n both_o in_o point_n of_o lawfulness_n and_o necessity_n above_o the_o other_o three_o and_o last_o though_o unity_n and_o uniformity_n in_o government_n be_v very_o fit_v and_o necessary_a throughout_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n yet_o that_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n shall_v fall_v foul_a one_o upon_o another_o and_o the_o great_a eat_v up_o the_o less_o for_o this_o uniformity_n sake_n be_v no_o way_n necessary_a especial_o consider_v that_o god_n as_o have_v be_v former_o show_v have_v provide_v other_o mean_n far_o more_o gracious_a honourable_a and_o proper_a for_o the_o bring_n of_o the_o blessedness_n of_o this_o uniformity_n upon_o his_o church_n in_o due_a time_n so_o that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o thing_n in_o this_o reason_n it_o be_v altogether_o with_o and_o not_o at_o all_o against_o the_o apologist_n to_o your_o fifteen_o answer_v his_o 15._o reason_n answer_v we_o answer_v first_o be_v it_o suppose_v which_o yet_o we_o shall_v present_o oppose_v that_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n ever_o grant_v any_o toleration_n to_o divers_a sect_n and_o government_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o do_v he_o or_o they_o ever_o grant_v a_o power_n to_o a_o major_a part_n of_o professor_n in_o a_o kingdom_n or_o nation_n to_o grind_v the_o face_n of_o their_o brethren_n partaker_n of_o like_a precious_a faith_n and_o holiness_n with_o they_o either_o because_o they_o can_v not_o in_o all_o point_n jump_v with_o they_o in_o their_o judgement_n or_o because_o they_o endeavour_v to_o keep_v a_o good_a conscience_n towards_o god_n for_o follow_v the_o ducture_n and_o guidance_n of_o their_o present_a light_n if_o you_o will_v take_v without_o ask_v that_o which_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n ever_o grant_v you_o you_o may_v very_o well_o bear_v it_o at_o the_o hand_n of_o your_o brethren_n if_o they_o humble_o sue_v and_o entreat_v for_o what_o they_o never_o grant_v especial_o consider_v that_o that_o which_o you_o take_v be_v imperious_a and_o high_a tend_v to_o the_o annoyance_n and_o trouble_n of_o many_o whereas_o that_o which_o they_o sue_v for_o be_v moderate_a and_o low_a only_o a_o peaceable_a stand_n among_o you_o that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o do_v good_a unto_o many_o second_o if_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n as_o you_o say_v ever_o grant_v any_o toleration_n to_o divers_a sect_n and_o government_n in_o his_o church_n how_o come_v you_o and_o your_o government_n to_o be_v tolerate_v your_o government_n be_v specifical_o diversify_v from_o that_o of_o the_o papacy_n as_o if_o before_o observe_v which_o be_v more_o general_a and_o extensive_a than_o you_o if_o you_o have_v not_o a_o toleration_n for_o your_o government_n either_o from_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n we_o be_v doubtful_a from_o who_o or_o whence_o you_o have_v it_o three_o do_v you_o not_o by_o this_o reason_n build_v up_o the_o wall_n of_o babylon_n and_o strengthen_v the_o papist_n in_o their_o bloody_a error_n against_o the_o reform_a church_n upon_o which_o they_o look_v as_o schismatical_a from_o their_o mother_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n think_v they_o no_o way_n fit_a to_o be_v tolerate_v but_o to_o be_v suppress_v both_o in_o their_o doctrine_n and_o government_n yea_o and_o in_o case_n they_o will_v not_o be_v reduce_v to_o the_o principle_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v whole_o extirpate_v and_o root_v out_o of_o the_o world_n what_o can_v be_v speak_v more_o to_o the_o heart_n of_o such_o apprehension_n and_o counsel_n and_o resolution_n as_o these_o then_o that_o neither_o christ_n nor_o his_o apostle_n ever_o grant_v any_o toleration_n to_o divers_a sect_n and_o government_n in_o the_o church_n four_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o they_o grant_v no_o toleration_n to_o divers_a sect_n do_v you_o not_o imply_v that_o they_o do_v grant_v a_o toleration_n to_o some_o one_o sect_n at_o least_o if_o not_o to_o more_o and_o how_o know_v you_o whether_o the_o sect_n of_o apologisme_n in_o your_o improperate_a stile_n be_v not_o that_o sect_n or_o one_o of_o those_o sect_n to_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n it_o seem_v grant_v a_o toleration_n be_v it_o not_o i_o appeal_v to_o your_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n as_o like_v to_o be_v this_o as_o any_o other_o five_o we_o willing_o grant_v your_o conclusion_n in_o this_o reason_n sensusano_n that_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o apologist_n shall_v sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n no_o nor_o yet_o proper_o why_o they_o shall_v be_v tolerate_v toleration_n in_o propriety_n of_o signification_n as_o be_v former_o note_v be_v rei_fw-la malae_fw-la appliable_a only_o to_o that_o which_o iâ—_n evil_a but_o rather_o why_o they_o shall_v be_v countenance_v and_o encourage_v therefore_o if_o you_o think_v that_o they_o shall_v sin_v in_o sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n you_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o prevent_v that_o sin_n in_o they_o and_o perhaps_o shall_v withal_o prevent_v a_o great_a of_o your_o own_o by_o declare_v they_o person_n worthy_o not_o of_o a_o toleration_n but_o of_o encouragement_n or_o at_o least_o by_o procure_v they_o a_o toleration_n that_o they_o may_v not_o be_v put_v upon_o the_o tentation_n of_o sue_v for_o it_o but_o sixthly_a and_o last_o to_o the_o main_a frame_n of_o your_o reason_n what_o do_v you_o think_v of_o sinite_fw-la utrunque_fw-la crescere_fw-la let_v both_o grow_v together_o until_o the_o harvest_n matth._n 13.30_o be_v not_o here_o the_o toleration_n grant_v which_o you_o deny_v to_o be_v grant_v non_fw-la lac_fw-la lacti_fw-la nec_fw-la ovum_fw-la ovo_fw-la similius_fw-la if_o it_o be_v not_o this_o toleration_n certain_o it_o be_v somewhat_o as_o like_v to_o it_o as_o like_v may_v be_v
you_o know_v who_o the_o housholder_n be_v that_o give_v this_o order_n lay_v this_o restraint_n upon_o his_o servant_n otherwise_o the_o 37._o verse_n will_v inform_v you_o and_o who_o do_v you_o think_v shall_v be_v mean_v by_o the_o tare_n you_o will_v not_o say_v the_o good_a son_n of_o the_o church_n at_o least_o so_o acknowledge_v by_o their_o mother_n you_o can_v say_v with_o reason_n the_o loose_a vicious_a etc._n etc._n moral_o disorder_a son_n of_o the_o church_n because_o these_o be_v sow_o in_o the_o field_n before_o the_o housholder_n sew_v that_o good_a seed_n therein_o speak_v of_o v._o 24._o and_o 38._o whereas_o the_o tare_n which_o must_v be_v let_v grow_v to_o harvest_n be_v express_o say_v to_o have_v be_v sow_o after_o v._o 25._o and_o beside_o such_o wicked_a and_o vicious_a person_n as_o these_o at_o least_o as_o the_o danger_n and_o degree_n of_o their_o wickedness_n may_v be_v aught_o to_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o the_o state_n and_o then_o they_o can_v grow_v in_o the_o field_n till_o harvest_n by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n therefore_o three_o and_o last_o you_o must_v by_o the_o tare_n of_o necessity_n understand_v such_o in_o the_o church_n as_o you_o call_v sectary_n schismatic_n heretic_n such_o as_o corrupt_v the_o purity_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o erroneous_a and_o false_a opinion_n or_o at_o least_o be_v look_v upon_o by_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o respective_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o such_o which_o yet_o appear_v further_o by_o the_o reason_n which_o the_o housholder_n render_v unto_o his_o servant_n why_o he_o will_v not_o have_v they_o pluck_v up_o but_o grow_v until_o the_o harvest_n lest_o say_v he_o while_o you_o go_v about_o to_o gather_v the_o tare_n you_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n also_o there_o be_v no_o danger_n of_o hurt_v or_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n i._o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n v._o 38._o by_o punish_v civil_a or_o moral_a misdemeanour_n of_o man_n but_o if_o magistrate_n or_o other_o '_o shall_v be_v busy_a about_o pluck_v up_o sectary_n heretic_n etc._n etc._n they_o will_v be_v in_o continual_a danger_n of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n first_o because_o many_o true_o pious_a and_o conscientious_a man_n child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n may_v soon_o be_v draw_v in_o to_o some_o unwarrantable_a sect_n and_o opinion_n and_o second_o such_o opinion_n as_o be_v sentence_v by_o the_o generality_n or_o major_a part_n of_o a_o church_n as_o erroneous_a or_o heretical_a and_o so_o expose_v those_o that_o hold_v they_o to_o the_o reproachful_a name_n of_o sectary_n schismatic_n heretic_n very_o often_o fall_v out_o to_o be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o god_n and_o the_o person_n hold_v they_o forth_o unto_o the_o world_n the_o best_a and_o faithful_a of_o his_o servant_n answer_v his_o 16._o reason_n answer_v for_o your_o sixteenth_o reason_n it_o concern_v other_o more_o than_o the_o apologist_n to_o answer_v the_o frame_n of_o it_o be_v a_o indignabund_a relation_n whether_o true_a or_o no_o caveat_n lector_n of_o what_o hard_a measure_n the_o new-englanders_a offer_v to_o some_o that_o desire_v to_o sit_v down_o among_o they_o because_o they_o differ_v a_o little_a from_o they_o in_o point_n of_o discipline_n the_o man_n here_o charge_v be_v of_o age_n to_o speak_v for_o themselves_o and_o beside_o want_v no_o ability_n otherwise_o i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o if_o they_o have_v but_o the_o correct_v of_o a._n s._n his_o relation_n they_o will_v be_v able_a to_o make_v more_o reason_n and_o equity_n of_o it_o then_o without_o some_o correction_n or_o other_o i_o be_o able_a to_o do_v but_o to_o leave_v our_o brethren_n in_o new-england_n to_o their_o own_o apology_n i_o will_v fain_o know_v of_o a._n s._n what_o he_o mean_v to_o do_v with_o his_o story_n or_o how_o he_o intend_v to_o bring_v it_o under_o contribution_n to_o his_o cause_n for_o first_o he_o do_v not_o only_o not_o approve_v of_o those_o proceed_n which_o he_o relate_v but_o be_v very_o passionate_a and_o intemperate_a in_o the_o very_a relation_n delicti_fw-la fie_v idem_fw-la reprehensor_n &_o author_n be_v the_o man_n so_o full_a of_o the_o spirit_n of_o reprehension_n against_o such_o practice_n and_o yet_o so_o full_a of_o the_o spirit_n of_o imitation_n also_o or_o what_o be_v his_o desire_n so_o great_a to_o appropriate_v or_o engross_v the_o power_n and_o practice_n of_o persecute_v for_o difference_n in_o religion_n to_o himself_o and_o his_o own_o party_n that_o he_o be_v not_o able_a patient_o to_o bear_v the_o sight_n of_o either_o in_o other_o if_o your_o brethren_n in_o new-england_n stumble_v at_o the_o stone_n you_o speak_v of_o persecute_v as_o you_o say_v those_o that_o be_v approve_v by_o themselves_o both_o for_o their_o life_n and_o doctrine_n mere_o because_o they_o differ_v a_o little_a from_o they_o in_o point_n of_o discipline_n you_o have_v a_o fair_a warning_n take_v heed_n that_o you_o do_v not_o stumble_v at_o the_o same_o stone_n also_o they_o its_o like_a justify_v themselves_o in_o themselves_o in_o those_o proceed_n though_o they_o do_v not_o so_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n but_o if_o you_o have_v condemn_v they_o in_o what_o they_o do_v shall_v nevertheless_o run_v the_o same_o course_n you_o will_v be_v both_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d both_o self-condemned_n and_o god-condemned_n also_o and_o so_o have_v no_o cloak_n nor_o shelter_n for_o your_o sin_n but_o you_o think_v it_o no_o way_n reasonable_a that_o the_o apologist_n be_v of_o the_o same_o profession_n as_o you_o speak_v shall_v be_v suitor_n for_o a_o toleration_n in_o old-england_n we_o answer_v first_o if_o you_o speak_v with_o reference_n to_o those_o proceed_n immediate_o before_o report_v by_o you_o you_o be_v more_o of_o the_o same_o profession_n with_o they_o than_o your_o brethren_n the_o apologist_n these_o do_v not_o profess_v persecution_n mere_o for_o a_o little_a difference_n in_o point_n of_o discipline_n the_o world_n know_v who_o they_o be_v that_o do_v little_a less_o second_o what_o though_o man_n of_o the_o same_o profession_n with_o they_o miscarry_v for_o want_n of_o such_o light_n as_o shall_v have_v direct_v they_o in_o a_o better_a way_n must_v this_o be_v a_o band_n of_o conscience_n upon_o they_o to_o bow_v down_o their_o back_n without_o any_o more_o ado_n and_o to_o suffer_v presbyterian_a greatness_n to_o go_v over_o they_o as_o the_o stone_n in_o the_o street_n nay_o three_o they_o have_v the_o more_o reason_n and_o necessity_n in_o regard_n of_o such_o a_o miscarriage_n of_o their_o brethren_n to_o sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n here_o because_o by_o that_o miscarriage_n of_o they_o they_o be_v awaken_v to_o expect_v and_o fear_v yet_o far_o hard_a measure_n from_o you_o and_o your_o party_n if_o they_o do_v not_o bestir_v themselves_o by_o some_o mean_n or_o other_o to_o prevent_v it_o he_o that_o feel_v the_o smart_n of_o rod_n to_o be_v grievous_a have_v the_o more_o reason_n not_o the_o less_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o be_v beat_v with_o scorpion_n four_o and_o last_o why_o shall_v you_o any_o way_n be_v against_o your_o brethren_n sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n when_o as_o there_o lie_v a_o necessity_n upon_o you_o to_o grant_v it_o or_o consent_n to_o it_o unless_o you_o mean_v to_o steer_v that_o new-england_n course_n which_o you_o have_v with_o so_o high_a a_o hand_n of_o indignation_n contest_v with_o in_o this_o very_a reason_n except_o haply_o you_o have_v this_o ingenuous_a reach_n in_o it_o for_o your_o reputation_n that_o you_o will_v honest_a be_v precibus_fw-la occurrere_fw-la prevent_v all_o honest_a and_o reasonable_a request_n with_o the_o early_a forwardness_n of_o your_o bounty_n if_o i_o can_v reasonable_o think_v this_o to_o be_v your_o design_n i_o will_v serious_o persuade_v with_o the_o apologist_n to_o wave_v their_o suit_n for_o a_o toleration_n and_o so_o to_o gratify_v you_o with_o a_o honourable_a opportunity_n of_o do_v good_a before_o you_o be_v provoke_v by_o any_o man_n suit_n or_o motion_n to_o it_o but_o man_n that_o be_v subject_a to_o fear_n be_v seldom_o son_n of_o bounty_n the_o bottom_n it_o seem_v of_o all_o that_o a._n s._n have_v plead_v throughout_o his_o discourse_n against_o the_o toleration_n of_o apologisme_n be_v a_o solemn_a fear_n that_o possess_v he_o of_o be_v send_v he_o and_o all_o his_o party_n into_o some_o isle_n of_o dog_n if_o the_o congregationall_a man_n bad_a but_o the_o upper_a hand_n over_o they_o omnetimidum_fw-la natura_fw-la querulum_fw-la but_o i_o can_v hardly_o believe_v that_o the_o man_n be_v real_o afraid_a of_o what_o he_o here_o pretend_v in_o which_o case_n he_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v pity_v then_o roundly_o deal_v with_o first_o because_o himself_o confess_v
that_o some_o of_o his_o brethren_n hold_v that_o all_o sect_n and_o opinion_n be_v to_o be_v tolerate_v p._n 6._o so_o that_o in_o case_n these_o man_n shall_v have_v the_o upper_a hand_n he_o be_v assure_v of_o a_o party_n at_o least_o among_o they_o to_o secure_v he_o and_o he_o in_o that_o kind_n second_o he_o confess_v again_o and_o again_o that_o his_o brethren_n be_v very_o pious_a and_o holy_a man_n and_o therefore_o certain_o will_v not_o be_v so_o dogged_a as_o to_o send_v he_o and_o he_o into_o any_o isle_n of_o dog_n three_o a_o poor_a toleration_n be_v as_o far_o from_o a_o superiority_n of_o power_n as_o rag_n be_v from_o the_o robe_n or_o the_o dunghill_n from_o the_o throne_n four_o i_o do_v not_o think_v that_o he_o know_v any_o such_o isle_n as_o he_o speak_v of_o whereinto_o he_o fear_v to_o be_v send_v by_o the_o man_n of_o his_o indignation_n five_o and_o last_o if_o he_o shall_v be_v send_v into_o some_o isle_n of_o dog_n the_o soil_n and_o climate_n may_v probable_o agree_v well_o with_o he_o he_o have_v learn_v it_o seem_v to_o bark_v and_o bite_v too_o against_o his_o send_v thither_o to_o conclude_v for_o this_o reason_n whereas_o fear_v indeed_o ordinary_o make_v man_n cruel_a it_o be_v much_o to_o be_v fear_v a._n s._n only_o pretend_v fear_n that_o so_o he_o may_v have_v a_o colour_n to_o be_v cruel_a answer_v his_o 17._o reason_n answer_v to_o his_o seventeen_o reason_n we_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o forbid_v all_o nor_o any_o such_o toleration_n as_o the_o apologist_n desire_v this_o be_v sufficient_o show_v before_o in_o our_o answer_n to_o the_o fifteen_o reason_n his_o proof_n from_o revel_n 2.20_o hold_v no_o intelligence_n at_o all_o with_o his_o purpose_n yea_o it_o make_v sore_o against_o himself_o and_o his_o synedrion_fw-mi for_o first_o by_o the_o toleration_n or_o suffering_n of_o jezabel_n which_o be_v there_o charge_v as_o a_o sinful_a neglect_n upon_o the_o church_n of_o thyatira_n be_v not_o mean_v a_o civil_a or_o state-toleration_n but_o a_o ecclesiastic_a or_o church-toleration_n this_o church_n suffer_v false_a doctrine_n to_o be_v teach_v in_o her_o very_a bosom_n and_o her_o member_n to_o be_v corrupt_v and_o endanger_v thereby_o from_o day_n to_o day_n without_o lay_v it_o to_o heart_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o that_o sad_a consequence_n and_o without_o call_v those_o to_o a_o account_n that_o be_v the_o sower_n of_o such_o tare_n broacher_n &_o spreader_n of_o such_o opinion_n yea_o without_o use_v any_o mean_n to_o have_v the_o truth_n sound_o teach_v in_o opposition_n to_o such_o doctrine_n both_o pastor_n and_o people_n it_o seem_v sleep_v together_o whilst_o the_o envious_a man_n by_o his_o agent_n and_o factress_n jezabel_n sow_v these_o tare_n in_o their_o field_n such_o a_o toleration_n as_o this_o we_o former_o show_v to_o be_v sinful_a and_o the_o apologist_n be_v as_o much_o against_o it_o as_o you_o so_o far_o be_v they_o from_o desire_v it_o or_o sue_v for_o it_o they_o desire_v a_o toleration_n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o church_n in_o the_o civil_a state_n not_o that_o the_o error_n which_o spring_v up_o in_o their_o church_n shall_v be_v suffer_v to_o fret_v like_o gangrene_n without_o be_v oppose_v by_o they_o or_o be_v protect_v by_o the_o state_n second_o whereas_o that_o particular_a church_n alone_o be_v charge_v by_o christ_n with_o this_o toleration_n or_o sufferance_n of_o jezabel_n and_o not_o any_o more_o church_n whether_o neighbour_n or_o not_o neighbour_n to_o she_o nor_o any_o combine_a eldership_n or_o state_n ecclesiastical_a make_v of_o the_o consociation_n of_o the_o seven_o church_n much_o less_o any_o state_n civil_a evident_a it_o be_v that_o the_o care_n and_o power_n of_o redress_v emerge_a enormity_n or_o evil_n in_o a_o church_n in_o every_o kind_n be_v commit_v by_o christ_n to_o every_o particular_a church_n respective_o within_o itself_o and_o so_o they_o that_o trouble_v the_o church_n must_v as_o you_o say_v be_v cut_v off_o but_o by_o who_o not_o by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n if_o the_o trouble_n be_v spiritual_a nor_o by_o the_o combine_a eldership_n but_o by_o the_o particular_a church_n itself_o which_o be_v trouble_v by_o they_o in_o case_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n otherwise_o second_o when_o you_o say_v that_o there_o must_v be_v no_o such_o speech_n among_o we_o as_o i_o be_o of_o paul_n i_o be_o of_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n nor_o that_o some_o be_v calvinian_o some_o independenter_n some_o brownist_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o that_o we_o must_v all_o be_v christ_n we_o must_v all_o think_v and_o speak_v the_o same_o thing_n otherwise_o man_n be_v carnal_a etc._n etc._n with_o some_o other_o good_a word_n to_o like_a purpose_n we_o join_v heart_n and_o hand_n with_o you_o in_o all_o these_o thing_n and_o be_v ready_a to_o contribute_v the_o best_a of_o our_o endeavour_n unto_o you_o if_o you_o will_v suffer_v we_o to_o make_v the_o tabernacle_n of_o god_n among_o we_o according_a to_o this_o pattern_n which_o you_o show_v unto_o we_o such_o expression_n i_o be_o of_o paul_n i_o of_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n together_o with_o the_o name_n of_o calvinian_o independent_o brownist_n etc._n etc._n be_v as_o untuncable_a in_o our_o ear_n as_o in_o you_o etc._n etc._n but_o first_o every_o man_n that_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n or_o i_o be_o of_o apollo_n be_v not_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o thorn_n and_o briar_n as_o gedeon_n teach_v the_o man_n of_o succoth_n to_o speak_v better_a by_o fine_v imprison_a unchurch_a or_o the_o like_a but_o by_o soundness_n of_o conviction_n and_o wholesomeness_n of_o instruction_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o germanâ—_n have_v a_o say_n that_o etiam_fw-la in_o lâ—trone_fw-la puniendo_fw-la potest_fw-la peccari_fw-la a_o man_n may_v sin_v in_o punish_v he_o that_o most_o of_o all_o deserve_v it_o it_o be_v not_o enough_o for_o we_o to_o correspond_v with_o god_n in_o his_o end_n but_o we_o must_v keep_v as_o close_v to_o he_o in_o his_o mean_n also_o second_o whereas_o you_o say_v we_o must_v all_o be_v christ_n sure_o there_o be_v none_o of_o those_o sect_n you_o speak_v of_o but_o be_v willing_a to_o join_v with_o you_o in_o be_v his_o and_o in_o be_v call_v by_o his_o name_n rather_o than_o by_o any_o other_o we_o fear_v these_o unhappy_a sound_n of_o independent_o brownist_n anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n be_v more_o frequent_o make_v of_o your_o breath_n then_o of_o the_o breath_n of_o any_o other_o sort_n or_o sect_n of_o man_n among_o we_o three_o whereas_o you_o add_v neither_o have_v the_o church_n of_o god_n a_o custom_n to_o be_v contentious_a the_o apostle_n indeed_o say_v 1_o cor._n 11.16_o that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v no_o such_o custom_n but_o he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o these_o church_n of_o god_n have_v any_o custom_n to_o erect_v a_o presbyterian_a throne_n or_o a_o combine_a eldership_n among_o they_o to_o keep_v they_o from_o contention_n four_o whereas_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o neither_o permit_v the_o apostle_n schism_n we_o tell_v you_o that_o we_o have_v already_o tell_v you_o and_o that_o once_o and_o again_o both_o in_o what_o sense_n he_o permit_v they_o and_o in_o what_o not_o and_o have_v show_v you_o our_o concurrence_n with_o he_o in_o both_o five_o and_o last_o in_o that_o you_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o must_v not_o quit_v our_o mutual_a meeting_n as_o other_o do_v and_o as_o must_v you_o say_v be_v do_v in_o a_o public_a toleration_n we_o neither_o well_o understand_v the_o sense_n of_o your_o word_n much_o less_o any_o purport_n in_o they_o to_o your_o pupose_v we_o do_v not_o know_v what_o quit_v of_o meeting_n there_o be_v like_a to_o be_v more_o under_o a_o public_a toleration_n then_o be_v for_o the_o present_a answer_v his_o 18._o reason_n answer_v your_o eighteen_o reason_n be_v so_o atheological_a and_o unworthy_a your_o cause_n that_o the_o very_a name_n of_o it_o may_v be_v answer_n sufficient_a a_o toleration_n say_v you_o can_v but_o expose_v your_o church_n unto_o the_o calumny_n of_o papist_n who_o evermore_o object_n unto_o protestant_n the_o innumerable_a number_n of_o these_o sect_n whereas_o they_o pretend_v to_o be_v nothing_o but_o one_o church_n will_v you_o redeem_v yourself_o out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o popish_a calumny_n by_o symbolise_v with_o they_o will_v you_o turn_v turk_n that_o you_o may_v not_o suffer_v turkish_a insolence_n and_o thraldom_n sure_o you_o forget_v your_o argument_n insist_v upon_o in_o your_o eleven_o reason_n there_o you_o make_v symbolise_v with_o papist_n a_o reason_n against_o your_o brethren_n and_o their_o opinion_n why_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v tolerate_v and_o here_o you_o make_v a_o defect_n or_o want_n in_o they_o of_o symbolise_v with_o they_o a_o reason_n
likewise_o why_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v tolerate_v it_o seem_v contradiction_n inconsistence_n impertinence_n unintelligibility_n sense_n nonsense_n any_o thing_n nothing_o will_v serve_v to_o make_v reason_n against_o the_o poor_a independenter_n as_o you_o call_v they_o why_o they_o must_v not_o be_v tolerate_v be_v not_o the_o consideration_n of_o your_o own_o pag._n 14._o that_o the_o devil_n evermore_o assault_v more_o the_o true_a church_n the_o true_a doctrine_n and_o true_a discipline_n than_o the_o corrupt_a church_n her_o corrupt_a doctrine_n or_o discipline_n a_o far_o better_a sanctuary_n for_o your_o church_n against_o those_o popish_a calumny_n you_o speak_v of_o than_o a_o correspondence_n with_o they_o to_o keep_v you_o in_o unity_n and_o conformity_n but_o this_o reason_n we_o have_v answer_v former_o answer_v his_o 19_o reason_n answer_v your_o nineteenth_o reason_n be_v very_o concise_a in_o this_o you_o only_o say_v that_o of_o such_o a_o toleration_n follow_v all_o you_o former_o deduce_v out_o of_o independency_n and_o so_o it_o may_v without_o put_v the_o world_n to_o much_o damage_n or_o sorrow_n when_o we_o cast_v up_o your_o deduction_n of_o inconvenience_n out_o of_o independency_n we_o find_v they_o counterballance_v to_o the_o height_n with_o the_o exits_z from_o presbytery_n if_o you_o poise_n your_o wallet_n well_o you_o will_v the_o end_n that_o hang_v at_o your_o back_n the_o heavy_a but_o for_o answer_v to_o this_o reason_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o former_a chapter_n answer_v his_o 20._o reason_n answer_v his_o twenty_o reason_n be_v somewhat_o of_o a_o differ_a strain_n from_o the_o rest_n the_o ground_n and_o bottom_n of_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o desire_n of_o a_o plausible_a insinuation_n with_o the_o assembly_n under_o a_o pretence_n of_o jealousy_n over_o they_o lest_o they_o shall_v suffer_v in_o point_n of_o honour_n in_o case_n his_o brethren_n shall_v obtain_v a_o toleration_n but_o first_o good_a a._n s._n why_o must_v it_o needs_o be_v think_v in_o case_n it_o shall_v be_v grant_v unto_o they_o that_o it_o be_v extort_a by_o force_n of_o reason_n or_o that_o all_o the_o assembly_n be_v not_o able_a to_o answer_v your_o brethren_n this_o suggestion_n smell_n of_o worse_a blood_n about_o the_o heart_n than_o all_o the_o reason_n hitherto_o fear_v it_o seem_v that_o all_o engagement_n upon_o the_o assembly_n in_o point_n of_o conscience_n to_o deny_v the_o apologist_n a_o toleration_n may_v fail_v and_o prove_v ineffectual_a that_o way_n he_o seek_v here_o to_o engage_v they_o in_o point_n of_o honour_n by_o way_n of_o reserve_n tell_v they_o in_o effect_n that_o howsoever_o their_o conscience_n may_v favour_v the_o independenter_n in_o point_n of_o toleration_n yet_o their_o credit_n and_o reputation_n will_v suffer_v by_o it_o yet_o let_v the_o suggestion_n be_v but_o a_o little_a look_v into_o and_o it_o will_v be_v find_v to_o reflect_v no_o great_a matter_n of_o grace_n or_o commendation_n upon_o the_o assembly_n itself_o for_o if_o no_o favour_n or_o courtesy_n can_v be_v think_v to_o come_v from_o they_o but_o that_o which_o be_v extort_a by_o reason_n and_o the_o denial_n whereof_o they_o can_v answer_v it_o be_v a_o sign_n that_o they_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o easy_a to_o be_v entreat_v full_a of_o mercy_n and_o good_a fruit_n which_o yet_o the_o holy_a ghost_n make_v the_o stand_a character_n of_o that_o wisdom_n which_o be_v from_o above_o 3.17_o james_n 3.17_o whereas_o he_o add_v that_o their_o opinion_n and_o demand_n be_v against_o all_o reason_n and_o that_o sundry_a of_o they_o can_v not_o deny_v as_o much_o and_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v but_o that_o it_o be_v god_n ordinance_n we_o answer_v first_o that_o what_o a._n s._n his_o standard_n be_v whereby_o he_o measure_v reason_n we_o be_v not_o so_o well_o acquaint_v with_o he_o as_o to_o know_v but_o according_a to_o we_o this_o assertion_n of_o he_o open_v seven_o time_n wide_a against_o all_o reason_n then_o either_o the_o opinion_n or_o demand_n of_o his_o antagonist_n first_o for_o their_o opinion_n we_o believe_v that_o somewhat_o more_o than_o nonsense_n or_o irrationality_n have_v be_v argue_v by_o themselves_o in_o the_o assembly_n for_o it_o be_v it_o like_v that_o very_o learned_a man_n and_o of_o ability_n to_o dispute_v their_o opinion_n in_o any_o assembly_n in_o europe_n which_o be_v a._n s._n own_o letter_n of_o recommendation_n on_o their_o behalf_n shall_v rise_v up_o to_o defend_v a_o opinion_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o reason_n and_o somewhat_o like_a unto_o reason_n at_o least_o so_o call_v among_o our_o vulgar_a apprehension_n have_v be_v say_v for_o it_o in_o the_o precede_a part_n of_o this_o discourse_n and_o second_o for_o their_o demand_n though_o a._n s._n do_v not_o inform_v we_o what_o they_o be_v or_o wherein_o that_o fiery_a contestation_n against_o all_o reason_n which_o he_o find_v in_o they_o consist_v yet_o we_o suppose_v he_o mean_v their_o sue_n for_o a_o toleration_n that_o high_a misdemeanour_n for_o which_o he_o have_v judge_v they_o now_o these_o ten_o time_n be_v it_o or_o be_v it_o or_o will_v it_o be_v against_o all_o reason_n for_o the_o poor_a protestant_a church_n in_o france_n to_o sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n in_o the_o state_n if_o it_o be_v not_o grant_v unto_o they_o without_o sue_v or_o be_v it_o not_o much_o more_o agreeable_a to_o reason_n that_o protestant_a church_n shall_v be_v tolerate_v in_o a_o protestant_a state_n then_o in_o a_o state_n pontificial_a especial_o in_o such_o a_o protestant_a state_n of_o which_o they_o have_v so_o eminent_o deserve_v as_o the_o apologist_n and_o their_o church_n and_o man_n of_o their_o judgement_n have_v do_v of_o this_o as_o be_v brief_o touch_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o chapter_n or_o be_v it_o against_o all_o reason_n that_o those_o person_n in_o the_o low-countries_n between_o who_o judgement_n there_o be_v that_o know_a variety_n of_o difference_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o which_o concern_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v not_o able_a so_o well_o to_o accommodate_v themselves_o for_o livelihood_n and_o subsistence_n in_o any_o other_o state_n with_o the_o freedom_n of_o their_o conscience_n shall_v desire_v a_o toleration_n in_o that_o suppose_v those_o man_n of_o your_o judgement_n of_o who_o you_o speak_v pag._n 10._o who_o be_v as_o you_o there_o say_v condemn_v to_o death_n for_o their_o discipline_n ready_a to_o be_v execute_v and_o be_v afterward_o exile_v into_o foreign_a country_n suppose_v i_o say_v these_o man_n have_v desire_v a_o toleration_n in_o their_o own_o country_n of_o those_o who_o thus_o unreasonable_o deal_v with_o they_o have_v they_o violate_v all_o rule_n and_o principle_n of_o reason_n by_o such_o a_o desire_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o the_o assertion_n be_v so_o notorious_o against_o all_o reason_n that_o it_o be_v scarce_o consistent_a with_o reason_n to_o bestow_v so_o much_o pen_n in_o answer_n to_o it_o there_o be_v but_o one_o only_a supposition_n to_o make_v either_o reason_n or_o truth_n of_o it_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v it_o may_v pass_v for_o both_o if_o the_o desire_n of_o some_o presbyterian_o be_v all_o reason_n and_o nothing_o reason_n but_o they_o than_o both_o the_o opinion_n and_o demand_n of_o the_o apologist_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v against_o all_o reason_n but_o otherwise_o i_o know_v no_o principle_n or_o rule_n of_o reason_n at_o all_o so_o much_o as_o discourtesy_v by_o either_o second_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o sundry_a of_o themselves_o can_v not_o deny_v it_o and_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v etc._n etc._n first_o certain_z i_o be_o that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v absolute_o deny_v any_o such_o confession_n second_o the_o acknowledgement_n itself_o look_v no_o more_o like_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n than_o a_o mere_a fiction_n do_v the_o relator_n i_o believe_v that_o upon_o inquiry_n it_o will_v be_v find_v a_o misprision_n of_o truth_n for_o do_v it_o not_o sound_v aloud_o incredibilitie_n that_o man_n of_o sufficient_a ability_n to_o dispute_v their_o opinion_n in_o any_o assembly_n in_o europe_n shall_v confess_v their_o opinion_n and_o demand_n to_o be_v against_o all_o reason_n but_o such_o stone_n as_o these_o be_v fit_a for_o a._n s._n his_o building_n three_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o they_o can_v never_o show_v their_o opinion_n cut_v of_o god_n word_n we_o answer_v that_o they_o have_v often_o show_v it_o but_o god_n and_o man_n it_o seem_v be_v not_o yet_o agree_v to_o have_v it_o so_o general_o see_v as_o be_v to_o be_v desire_v but_o our_o hope_n be_v that_o the_o agreement_n will_v be_v conclude_v between_o they_o in_o due_a time_n four_o and_o last_o you_o conclude_v this_o reasâ—â—_n with_o this_o undertake_n that_o if_o it_o your_o brethren_n opinion_n we_o