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but_o the_o charge_n thereof_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n so_o that_o nothing_o be_v do_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o be_v theopinion_n of_o the_o best_a writer_n neither_o do_v i_o know_v any_o learned_a man_n of_o a_o magist._n 5._o the_o general_a opinion_n of_o the_o best_a writer_n musculus_fw-la loc_fw-la com._n tit_n de_fw-fr magist._n contrary_a judgement_n m._n musculus_fw-la speak_v of_o those_o senior_n say_v that_o they_o be_v use_v in_o those_o church_n only_o that_o be_v destitute_a of_o christian_a magistrate_n which_o have_v the_o chiefty_a and_o power_n etc._n etc._n not_o only_o in_o profane_a but_o in_o divine_a matter_n and_o after_o answer_v a_o objection_n of_o 1._o cor._n 6._o he_o say_v that_o we_o must_v needs_o distinguish_v between_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o day_n and_o that_o whichis_n now_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v m._n gualters_n judgement_n of_o this_o matter_n in_o his_o commentary_n 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