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A10777 Certe[n] godly, learned, and comfortable conferences, betwene the two reuerende fathers, and holye martyrs of Christe, D. Nicolas Rydley late Bysshoppe of London, and M. Hughe Latymer sometyme Bysshoppe of Worcester, during the tyme of their emprysonmentes. Whereunto is added. A treatise agaynst the errour of transubstantiation, made by the sayd reuerende father D. Nicolas Rydley. M.D.LVI. Ridley, Nicholas, 1500?-1555.; Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. aut; Ridley, Nicholas, 1500?-1555. Brief declaracion of the Lordes Supper. aut 1556 (1556) STC 21048; ESTC S115941 68,037 134

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Christ of his euangelists and of his Apostles that in this aforesayd controuersie the light of thy trueth by the lanterne of thy worde maie shine vnto all them that loue thee Of the Lordes laste Supper do speake especially three of the Euangelists Matt. 26. Mar. 14. Luc. 22. 1. Cor. 10.11 Mathewe Marke and Luke But none more plainelie nor more fully declarethe the same then doeth S. Paule partelie in the 10. but especiallye in the 11. Chapiter of the firste Epistle vnto the Corinthianes As Mathewe and Marke doe agree muche in forme of woordes Soe doeth lykewise Luke and S Paule But all foure no doubte as they were all taught in one schole and enspired with one spirite so taughte they all one trueth God graunte vs to vnderstande it well Mathewe setteth forth Christes Supper thus Matthev Vuhen euen vuas comme he satt dovune vuith the 12. c. Matt. 26. As they dyd eate Ihesus tooke bread and gaue thākes brake it ād gaue it to the disciples and sayd Take Eate This is my body And he tooke the cuppe gaue thankes and gaue it to them sayng Drynke ye all of this For this is my bloud of the nevue testament that is shedd for many for the remission of sinnes I saie vnto you I vuill not drinke henseforth of this fruyte of the vyne tree vntyll that daye vuhen I shall drinke that nevue in my fathers kingdome And vuhen they had sayd grace they vuent out Marke Novve Marke speaketh it thus And as they ate Iesus tooke breade blissed and brake Marke 14. and gaue to them and saide Take eate This is my bodie And he toke the cuppe gaue thankes and gaue it them and they all dranke of it and he saide vnto them This is my bloud of the nevve testamente vvhich is shedde for manye Verelie I saie vnto you I vuil drinke no more of the fruite of the vine vntyll that daie that I drinke that nevve in the kingedome of God Here Matthew and Marke doo agree not onely in the matter but also allmost fullye in the fourme of wordes Sauing that for thies wordes in Mathew gaue thankes Marke hath one word blessed which signefieth in this place al one And wher Mathew saithe drinke ye al of this Marke saith and they all dranke of it And wher Matthew saithe of this fruyte of the vyne Marke leaueth owt the worde this and saith of the fruyte of the vyne Nowe lett vs see likewise what agrement in forme of wordes is betwixte S. Luke and S. Paule Luke Luke vuriteth thus He toke breade gaue thankes brake it and gaue it to them saing This is my bodye vuich is geuē for you This doo in remembraunce of me Likevuise also vuhen they had supped he tooke the cupp saynge Luc. 22. This cupp is the nevue testamēt in my bloud vuich is shed for you S. Paule S. Paule setteth fourthe Christes supper thus the Lord Ihesus the same night in the vuich he vuas betrayed tooke bread and gaue thankes and brake and said ● Cor. 11. Take eate this is my bodie vuiche is broken for you This doo in remembrance of me After the same maner he tooke the cupp vuhen supper vuas done saing This cupp is the nevue testament in my bloud This doo as often as ye drinke it in the remembraūce of me for as ofte as ye shall eate this bread and drinke this cuppe ye shall shevue the Lordes death tyll he comme Here wher Luke sayth which is geuen Paule saythe which is broken And as Luke addeth to the wordes of Paule spoken of the cuppe which is shedd for yow so likewise Paule addeth to the wordes of Luke this doo as often as ye shall drinke it in the remēbraunce of me The rest that followeth in S. Paule both ther and in the x. chapter perteineth to the right vse and doctrine of the Lordes supper Thus the Euangelistes and S. Paule haue rehersed the wordes and worke of Christ wherby he dyd institute and ordeine this holye Sacrament of his blessed bodye and bloud to be a perpetuall remembraunce of hym selfe vntill his comminge agayne of hym self I saye that is of his bodye geuen for vs and of his bloud shedde for the remission of sinnes But this remembraunce thus ordeined as the awthor therof is Christ both god and man so by thallmighty power of god farre passeth all kind of remembraunces that any other man is able to make either of hym self or of any other thing for who so euer receueth this holye sacrament thus ordeyned in remembraunce of Christ he receyueth therwith either deathe or lyfe In this I doo trust we all agree For saincte Paule saith of the godlie receuers in the x. chapter of his first epistle to the Corinthians 1. Cor. 10. The cuppe of blessing which we blesse is it not the partaking or felowshipp of Christes bloud And also he saieth the bread which we breake and meaneth at the Lords table is it not the partaking or felowshippe of Christes bodie Nowe the partakinge of Christes bodie and of his bloude vnto the faithfull and godlie is the partaking or felowship of life and of immortalitie And againe of the bad and vngodly receiuers S. Paule plainlie saieth thus 1. Cor. 11. He that eateth of this breade and drinketh of this cuppe vnworthily he is gilty of the bodie and bloude of the Lorde O howe necessarie then is it if we loue life and would eschewe death to trie and examine oure selues before we eate of this breade and drinke of this cuppe For els assuredlie he that eateth and drinketh vnworthilie eateth and drinketh his own damnation because he estemeth not the Lords bodie that is he receiueth not the Lords bodie with the honoure whiche is due vnto hym And yet by that whiche was saide that with the receipte of the holie Sacramente of the blissed bodie and bloude of Christ is receiued of euerie one good or badde either life or death it is not meant that they whiche are deade before God hereby maie receiue life or the liuing before God cā herby receiue deathe For as none is meete to receiue naturall foode wherby the naturall life is norished excepte he be borne and liue before so no man can feede by the receipte of this holie Sacramente of the foode of eternall life excepte he bee regenerated and borne of god before And on the other side no man her receiueth damnation whiche is not deade before God Thus hitherto withoute all doubte God is my witnes I saie so farre as I know there is no controuersie among thē that bee learned in the church of Englāde concerning the matter of this Sacramente but all doe agree whether they be newe or olde and to speake plaine and as some of them odiouslye either do call other whether they bee protestantes papistes pharisies or Gospellers And as all do agree hitherto in the aforesaide doctrine so all doe deteste the wicked herisie of the
dāmage losse and vile Phil. 3. that they myghte wynne Christe mē zealouse for the howse of godde and the glorie of hys name suche as hadde allreadye layed open theyr consciences and infirmitees before the iudgemēte seate of godde and hadde agayne throughe Christe receiued the effecte of fayth and true righteousnes that is peace of conscience and ioyfullnes in the holy ghooste Rom. 14. and so hadde a fulle taste in thys mortalle body of immortalitee in miserie of happinesse in earth of heauen O Englande Englande how greate is thy losse for the wante of them how horrible is thyne offense for killinge of them how greuouse will thy plage be when the reuenger of innocente bloude shall call the to an accowmpte for them if thow doo not repente in tyme Godde graunte that the admonitions of these and other godly martyrs maye so warne vs theyr doctrine so instructe vs and theyr example so cōfirme vs in the true knowlege and feare of godde that flyenge and abhorringe Idolatrye and superstition we maye embrace true religion and pierce forsakinge the phantasyes of men we maye humblye obey the written worde of godde and ruled therby directe all our doyngs to the glorie of his name and our owne endeles saluation in Christe Iesu Amen In the name of Iesus let euerie knee bowe Philip. 2. A Busshop owghte to be vnreproueable N. Ryd Tit. 1. as the Stuarde off godde c. cleauinge faste to the trew worde off doctrine c. Tit. 1. All worldly respectes putte aparte off shame deathe losse off goodes and worldely commoditees Lett me haue I praye you your aduyse in these matters folowynge Thatt is your assent ād cōfirmatiō in those thinges whiche you iudge that godde doth allowe and your best cownsell and aduertisemēt wher you thinke otherwise and your reasons for both the same For the wiseman sayeth Prou. 18. One brother which is helped of another is Like a well defensed Citee The causes thatt moue me to absteyne frome the Masse be these It ys done in a strawnge tounge which the people doth not vnderstande contrarie to the doctrine off the Apostle 1. Cor. 14. 1. Cor. 14. Wher is no vnderstandinge H Latym ther is neither edifyenge nor conforte for besydes that they speake in to the ayer the minde receiueth no proffet They are one to another as alienes the Parissheners will saye their priestes are madde wheras all thynges owghte to be done so as they maye ediffie Let euerie man knowe that the thynges which I write sayth S. Paule are the commaundementes of the lorde 1. Cor. 14. Suche absurditees are to be eschewed N.R. Ther is also wantynge the shewynge off the lordes deathe contrarie to the minde off the Apostle As often as ye shall eate this breade and drincke off this Cuppe 1. Cor. 11. ye shall shew the Lordes deathe till he come What shewinge can be ther wher as no man heareth that it to saye vnderstādeth what is sayde No man I meane off the commen people for whose proffet the prayer of the churche oughte specially to serue H. L. Luc. 11. Woo be vnto you that take awaye the keye off knowlege The Papistes studie by all meanes to make the people ignorante Lest theyr ignorante sir Ihons shuld be hadde in Lesse estimation or despised which is cleane contrarie to Saint Paules practise who wisshed that all men myghte be fulfilled with all knowledge and to be perfite in Christe Iesus Coloss. 1. c. The institution of Christe if it wer rehersed in the vulgare tounge shulde be not only a Consecration but also a frutefull preachinge to the edification off the hearers wher as in the popisshe Masse it is neyther vnderstanded nor hearde whils the commen people are vtterly ignorāte what their preestes doo or what they goo abowte whether they blesse or curse The Apostles vnderstoode Christe when he celebrated his supper Therfore doo these papistes swarue frome Christe in theyr Masse Ther is no Communion but it is made a priuate Table and in dede owght to be a Communion N. R For S. Paule sayeth The breade which we breake 1. Cor. 10. is the partakynge of the bodie of Christe And Christe brake and distributed and sayde Take Matt. 26. and eate c. But that they make it a priuate table it is open The papistes make the lordes table a priuate table For wher they be manie preestes which will communicate they doo it not in one Table or aulter but euerie one off them haue their aultars masses and tables To make that priuate which Christe made commen and willed to be communicated H.L. maye seme to be the workmanshippe of Antichriste hym selfe The Canons of thapostles doo excommunicate them which beinge presente at commē prayer c. Cano. 10. doo not also receiue the holy communion De Cons. dist 1. cap. Epis. And vnto the same agreeth the decree of Anacletus When the consecration is done saieth he let all such communicate as entend not to be excommunicate That which is firste is trew that which is Latter is cownterfayted sayeth Tertulliane But the papistes saye we doo it priuately Bicawse we doo it for others Tert. contra Praxeam But wher haue you your Commission to Masse and sacrifice for others N.R. The lordes commaundement of communicating the cuppe vnto the laye people is not obserued according vnto the worde of the lorde drincke ye all of this Matt. 26. As often as ye shal eate this bread and drincke of this cuppe H.L. 1 Cor. 11. ye shal shew the lordes deathe c. so that not the partaking of the one onlye but of bothe is a shewing of the lordes deathe bicause in his deathe the bloude was deuided from the bodie it is necessarie that the same diuision be represented in the supper The lordes death is not shevued excepte both partes of the Sacrā be ministred Th argument of K. Henry the 8. 2. Cor. 11. otherwyse the supper is not a sheuing of the lordes deathe c. Let a man examine hym selfe c. But this worde Homo is of bothe gendres therfore it is as wel commaunded to the woman to drincke of the cuppe as the man c. But the Kings argumente once againste me was this Whē ye come to gither to eate He saieth not saiethe he to drincke I aunswerid it was not neadfulle seing that a litle before he had made mention of bothe in theise wordes And so let hym eat of that breade and drincke of that cuppe Homo that is to saye aswel the woman as the manne Vnder the name of bread which betokenethe all sustinaunce of the bodie drincke is also vnderstanded in the scriptures Otherwise they woulde saye that Christe did not drincke after hys resurrection withe his disciples excepte Peter had saide Acto 10. We did eate and drincke with him after he arose from deathe They doo seruyllye