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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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4.8_o and_o child_n signify_v that_o among_o they_o christ_n shall_v come_v gen._n 22._o compare_v gal._n 3._o and_o that_o many_o child_n signify_v he_o shall_v have_v many_o believer_n to_o his_o child_n rom._n 4._o and_o therefore_o have_v faith_n in_o uncircumcision_n that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o father_n of_o the_o gentile_n that_o believe_v ibid._n rom._n 4._o and_o therefore_o these_o well_o suit_v with_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n therefore_o to_o that_o gen._n 17._o touch_v abraham_n posterity_n the_o lord_n speak_v in_o that_o order_n 1_o to_o settle_v abraham_n faith_n and_o comfort_n with_o many_o privilege_n 2_o descend_v from_o temporal_n in_o the_o shell_n to_o spiritual_n in_o substance_n 3_o in_o order_n of_o nature_n 1_o abraham_n must_v have_v child_n than_o christ_n then_o come_v the_o great_a part_n or_o basis_n of_o the_o covenant_n v._o 3._o in_o christ_n i_o be_o thy_o god_n it_o be_v usual_o in_o the_o hebr._n to_o name_v last_o the_o main_a thing_n to_o be_v speak_v of_o 2_o to_o that_o rom._n 4.11_o it_o be_v plain_a to_o have_v many_o child_n be_v make_v a_o part_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v show_v that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o father_n of_o all_o that_o believe_v which_o be_v a_o spiritual_a thing_n 3_o to_o that_o hebr._n 6._o its_o clear_a of_o a_o additional_a promise_n by_o oath_n make_v gen._n 22._o not_o of_o the_o main_a covenant_n 3_o whether_o not_o a_o covenant_n of_o work_n as_o a_o manuscript_n will_v have_v it_o ans_fw-fr no_o so_o express_o rom._n 4.11_o obj._n he_o say_v that_o there_o gen._n 17._o it_o be_v say_v if_o they_o do_v break_v his_o covenant_n on_o their_o part_n he_o will_v be_v no_o more_o their_o god_n but_o curse_v they_o v._o 14._o ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o covenant_n of_o work_n they_o break_v long_o afore_o in_o paradise_n rom._n 5._o therefore_o be_v this_o covenant_n add_v 2_o he_o do_v not_o cut_v they_o off_o for_o break_v the_o covenant_n once_o take_v but_o if_o they_o do_v not_o enter_v into_o it_o which_o be_v to_o break_v the_o command_n of_o enter_v into_o covenant_n ibid._n gen._n 17.14_o so_o in_o the_o gospel_n he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v dam_v joh._n 3._o and_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n he_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n ibid._n joh._n 3._o but_o grant_v say_v some_o it_o be_v a_o covenant_n of_o grace_n yet_o say_v they_o the_o question_n be_v 1_o whether_o by_o seed_n be_v not_o mean_v christ_n as_o the_o apostle_n expound_v gal._n 3.16_o answ_n that_o in_o gal._n 3.16_o relate_v to_o gen._n 22.11_o of_o god_n oath_n to_o abraham_n not_o of_o the_o form_n or_o sign_n or_o administration_n of_o the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o for_o in_o gen._n 17._o be_v no_o such_o expression_n but_o gen._n 22.18_o it_o be_v express_v according_a to_o this_o of_o the_o apostle_n obj._n it_o be_v say_v gen._n 17.19.21_o my_o covenant_n will_v i_o establish_v with_o 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the_o covenant_n shall_v not_o be_v establish_v as_o it_o be_v express_v v._o 18_o 19_o 23_o 21_o 22._o ☞_o the_o want_v of_o the_o observe_v this_o distinction_n between_o the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o form_n and_o outward_a administration_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v that_o which_o have_v breed_v much_o of_o the_o dispute_n between_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o we_o i_o wish_v therefore_o it_o may_v be_v weigh_v for_o the_o scripture_n be_v very_o clear_a in_o it_o to_o i_o touch_v every_o ordinance_n concern_v the_o word_n the_o administration_n be_v go_v preach_v to_o every_o creature_n mark_v 16._o but_o of_o the_o efficacy_n it_o be_v say_v heb._n 4.2_o the_o word_n profit_v not_o without_o faith_n the_o form_n of_o baptism_n be_v baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n matth._n 28.19_o but_o of_o the_o efficacy_n we_o have_v other_o expression_n rom._n 6.3_o 4_o 5._o viz._n baptise_a into_o christ_n baptize_v into_o his_o death_n bury_v with_o he_o plant_v into_o his_o death_n and_o mat._n 3._o baptize_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o fire_n so_o the_o form_n of_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n which_o be_v give_v and_o break_v for_o you_o do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o mat._n 26.26_o luk._n 22.19.1_o cor._n 11.14_o but_o of_o the_o efficacy_n it_o be_v say_v in_o other_o word_n the_o bread_n that_o we_o break_v be_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n 1_o cor._n 10.16_o and_o you_o show_v the_o lord_n death_n till_o you_o come_v ibid._n and_o you_o be_v all_o one_o bread_n 1_o cor._n 10.17_o suitable_o we_o have_v it_o in_o scripture_n that_o many_o partake_v of_o the_o outward_a administration_n that_o partake_v not_o of_o the_o efficacy_n judas_n partake_v of_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o passover_n simon_n magus_n and_o ananias_n of_o 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premise_n who_o before_o express_o name_v baptism_n and_o join_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d together_o consecration_n or_o sanctification_n thus_o greg._n naz._n on_o who_o word_n learn_v vossius_fw-la speak_v my_o sense_n non_fw-la igitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o say_v vossius_fw-la nazianzen_n do_v not_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n who_o if_o there_o be_v any_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o command_v also_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o judge_v that_o otherwise_o it_o may_v not_o unprofitable_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o three_o or_o four_o year_n which_o be_v only_o one_o doctor_n opinion_n and_o not_o the_o common_a judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n thus_o vossius_fw-la take_v we_o in_o also_o the_o note_n of_o vincent_n lirinens_fw-la cap._n 39_o quicquid_fw-la unus_fw-la vel_fw-la alter_fw-la patrum_fw-la quam●is_fw-la ille_fw-la sanctus_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v whatsoever_o one_o or_o other_o of_o the_o father_n albeit_o he_o be_v holy_a and_o learned_a etc._n etc._n shall_v think_v beside_o or_o contrary_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n let_v that_o go_v among_o his_o own_o proper_a hide_a and_o private_a opiniol_n or_o conceit_n as_o different_z and_z severed_z from_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o common_a judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o last_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o add_v our_o observation_n 1_o that_o according_a to_o the_o design_n in_o hand_n nazianzen_n hold_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n that_o have_v not_o yet_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n not_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o according_a to_o his_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o right_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o paschal_n blood_n on_o the_o doore-post_n exod._n 12._o have_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v hold_v in_o his_o time_n only_o as_o a_o tradition_n he_o have_v not_o argue_v it_o from_o scripture_n 2_o that_o for_o 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if_o a_o infant_n die_v before_o it_o be_v baptize_v but_o nazianzen_n mean_v danger_n of_o bodily_a death_n and_o therefore_o give_v it_o as_o a_o precept_n or_o command_n that_o in_o case_n there_o be_v danger_n that_o the_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o it_o be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n let_v it_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o figure_n thereof_o circumcision_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o obj._n 2._o nazianzen_n say_v h._n d._n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o he_o be_v 30._o year_n old_a as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o his_o life_n answ_n if_o that_o in_o nazianzens_n life_n say_v this_o true_o yet_o this_o may_v be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o persecution_n of_o those_o time_n or_o indisposition_n of_o his_o parent_n or_o other_o press_a necessity_n and_o therefore_o do_v infer_v no_o more_o than_o that_o circumcision_n ought_v not_o after_o the_o israelite_n come_v into_o canaan_n to_o be_v administer_v till_o man_n be_v forty_o year_n old_a because_o so_o long_o it_o be_v defer_v 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thirty_o year_n old_a lat._n old_a ibid._n p._n 658._o edit_fw-la paris_n graec._n &_o lat._n and_o you_o hear_v in_o the_o place_n quote_v that_o he_o mention_n defer_v in_o any_o case_n but_o till_o 3_o or_o 4_o year_n old_a or_o less_o sometime_o which_o be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n with_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n at_o three_o month_n or_o three_o week_n unless_o the_o mathematical_a consideration_n of_o word_n speak_v without_o knowledge_n as_o persius_n his_o parrot_n speak_v greek_n baptize_v greek_n one_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v if_o one_o confess_v his_o sin_n though_o there_o be_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v prevail_v with_o some_o second_o mr._n tomb_n object_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la against_o nazianzen_n examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o 1._o he_o object_n with_o a_o interrogation_n but_o do_v greg._n nazianzen_n say_v mr._n t._n seem_v only_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o word_n say_v he_o be_v plain_a that_o nazianzen_n give_v the_o reason_n why_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n shall_v be_v baptize_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o may_v not_o miss_v of_o the_o common_a grace_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o give_v his_o opinion_n of_o other_o that_o they_o shall_v stay_v long_o that_o they_o may_v be_v instruct_v and_o so_o their_o mind_n and_o body_n may_v be_v sanctify_v thus_o mr._n t._n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v first_o if_o greg._n nazianzen_n do_v give_v reason_n why_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n they_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o live_v to_o be_v of_o ripe_a year_n it_o be_v so_o much_o the_o better_a for_o we_o second_o he_o do_v give_v another_o reason_n beside_o that_o of_o partake_v of_o common_a grace_n namely_o 1_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o it_o be_v better_a they_o shall_v be_v sanctify_v without_o a_o feel_n of_o it_o then_o to_o depart_v without_o the_o seal_n so_o he_o think_v they_o be_v sanctify_v too_o in_o infancy_n as_o well_o as_o at_o ripe_a year_n 2_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o reason_n also_o of_o this_o to_o we_o be_v circumsion_n that_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v on_o the_o eight_o day_n etc._n etc._n three_o we_o answer_v that_o all_o three_o reason_n stand_v in_o force_n as_o well_o for_o all_o believer_n infant_n god_n put_v they_o under_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17._o as_o for_o those_o infant_n that_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o death_n four_o that_o nazianzen_n urge_v divers_a divine_a reason_n to_o he_o evince_v for_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n but_o for_o the_o delay_n of_o other_o not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o give_v my_o opinion_n he_o call_v it_o his_o opinion_n and_o what_o be_v it_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o child_n shall_v stay_v till_o three_o or_o four_o year_n old_a more_o or_o less_o and_o what_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o child_n of_o that_o age_n more_o then_o from_o infant_n towards_o baptism_n for_o nazianzen_n himself_o confess_v that_o though_o they_o may_v then_o hear_v and_o answer_v some_o spiritual_a thing_n yet_o they_o understand_v imperfect_o but_o do_v nazianzen_n give_v we_o there_o any_o scripture_n for_o this_o differ_v none_o do_v he_o give_v any_o reason_n even_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o as_o for_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v in_o mind_n and_o body_n second_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o mr._n t._n object_n upon_o our_o allege_v nazianzen_n against_o all_o the_o greek_a father_n in_o effect_n that_o we_o have_v allege_v and_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n first_o thus_o it_o be_v wonder_n to_o i_o say_v mr._n
of_o god_n for_o he_o except_v none_o nor_o infant_n nor_o etc._n etc._n baptism_n etc._n so_o basil_n long_v afore_o ann._n 372._o in_o his_o exhortat_fw-la to_o baptism_n to_o ambrose_n mr._n t._n answer_v nothing_o in_o he_o examen_fw-la but_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o mr._n m._n quote_v he_o but_o make_v no_o exception_n against_o he_o all_o these_o ancient_n that_o we_o have_v translate_v be_v before_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianism_n reusner_n pelagianism_n pelagius_n be_v about_o an._n 104_o helvic_n or_o 413._o el._n reusner_n who_o abettor_n be_v for_o the_o general_a great_a stickler_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o before_o they_o the_o arrian_n oppose_v the_o same_o bucholc_n same_o arius_n be_v about_o the_o year_n 315._o helvic_n or_o 319_o el_n reusner_n &_o bucholc_n of_o these_o see_v somewhat_o before_o in_o our_o animadversion_n on_o mr._n t._n his_o 2_o argument_n in_o his_o 15._o sect._n next_o let_v we_o touch_v those_o ancient_n who_o after_o the_o rise_n of_o anabaptisticall-pelagianisme_a or_o peleganian-anabaptisme_a write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n none_o of_o they_o urge_v it_o as_o only_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n other_o of_o they_o argue_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o take_v it_o not_o up_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n chrysostome_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n 382._o as_o helvicus_n reckon_v be_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n about_o 389._o as_o el._n reusner_n compute_v upon_o those_o word_n 1_o tim._n 3._o not_o a_o novice_n that_o be_v a_o new_a tender_a plant_n say_v the_o apostle_n mean_v not_o one_o so_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n for_o many_o such_o of_o the_o gentile_n or_o nation_n come_v to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v baptize_v there_o be_v other_o passage_n in_o chrysostome_n but_o i_o promise_v but_o to_o touch_v these_o last_o author_n hierom_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n hieronimus_n hieronimus_n 384._o so_o helvicus_n about_o the_o year_n 392._o write_v his_o catalogue_n of_o famous_a writer_n so_o bucholcerus_n say_v thus_o of_o infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o lata_fw-la the_o good_a or_o evil_n of_o a_o child_n be_v much_o to_o be_v impute_v to_o the_o parent_n mean_v education_n unless_o say_v he_o thou_o think_v that_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n in_o case_n they_o have_v not_o receive_v baptism_n be_v only_o guilty_a of_o that_o sin_n and_o that_o the_o sin_n be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v upon_o they_o that_o will_v not_o give_v it_o they_o especial_o at_o that_o time_n when_o they_o that_o be_v to_o receive_v it_o be_v not_o able_a to_o oppose_v as_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n be_v the_o gain_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o ancestor_n so_o likewise_o hierom_n in_o his_o three_o book_n of_o dialogue_n against_o the_o pelagian_o thus._n crito_n tell_v i_o i_o pray_v thou_o and_o so_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o question_n why_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v attic_a that_o their_o sin_n may_v be_v do_v away_o in_o baptism_n crito_n what_o sin_n have_v they_o commit_v be_v any_o man_n loose_v that_o be_v not_o first_o bind_v attic_a do_v ask_v i_o the_o evangelicall_n trumpet_n etc._n etc._n shall_v answer_v thou_o rom._n 5._o death_n reign_v from_o adam_n to_o moses_n even_o upon_o they_o that_o have_v not_o sin_v after_o the_o similitude_n of_o adam_n transgression_n etc._n etc._n he_o that_o be_v a_o little_a one_o be_v loose_v in_o baptism_n from_o the_o bond_n of_o sin_n of_o the_o parent_n etc._n etc._n and_o lest_o thou_o shall_v think_v that_o i_o mean_v this_o in_o a_o heretical_a sense_n the_o bless_a martyr_n cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n he_o write_v to_o bishop_n fidus_n concern_v baptise_v infant_n mind_v we_o of_o these_o thing_n and_o there_o hierom_n transcribe_v a_o great_a part_n of_o that_o epistle_n of_o which_o you_o hear_v afore_o and_o then_o add_v eloquent_a augustine_n say_v hierom_n write_v long_o since_o to_o marcellinus_n etc._n etc._n two_o book_n of_o baptise_v infant_n against_o your_o that_o be_v the_o pelagian_a heresy_n by_o which_o you_o will_v assert_v that_o infant-baptisme_n that_o note_v how_o the_o pelagian_o oppose_a infant-baptisme_n infant_n be_v baptize_v not_o into_o remission_n of_o sin_n but_o into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n according_o to_o that_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n be_v can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o the_o three_o to_o the_o same_o marcellinus_n against_o those_o who_o say_v as_o you_o pelagian_n do_v that_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v void_a of_o sin_n without_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n he_o write_v also_o a_o four_o to_o hilarius_n against_o thy_o doctrine_n pelagius_n also_o he_o be_v say_v to_o have_v write_v other_o book_n in_o special_a to_o thou_o by_o name_n which_o be_v not_o come_v to_o our_o hand_n 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well_o parallel_v this_o phrase_n with_o matth._n 3._o baptise_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o with_o fire_n where_o only_o the_o spirit_n must_v be_v mean_v because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o baptism_n of_o fire_n but_o there_o be_v a_o baptism_n with_o water_n beside_o baptism_n with_o the_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o water_n must_v signify_v baptism_n for_o it_o be_v harsh_a to_o run_v to_o a_o metaphor_n without_o need_n and_o to_o understand_v by_o water_n the_o spirit_n which_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o efficacy_n of_o baptism_n be_v usual_o call_v fire_n thus_o we_o have_v show_v out_o of_o this_o colos_n 2._o from_o the_o scope_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o analogy_n of_o the_o two_o sacrament_n and_o the_o inconvenience_n of_o the_o contrary_a that_o baptism_n succeed_v in_o the_o room_n and_o to_o be_v use_v instead_o of_o circumcision_n now_o let_v the_o ingenuous_a reader_n ponder_v and_o see_v whether_o there_o be_v not_o more_o in_o this_o text_n than_o mr._n tomb_n 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former_a intimation_n that_o the_o apostle_n clear_o labour_v to_o satisfy_v the_o colossian_n from_o seek_v to_o be_v circumcise_v because_o they_o be_v inward_o eircumcise_v and_o inward_o circumcise_v because_o inward_o baptize_v according_a to_o the_o outward_a seal_n of_o baptism_n or_o else_o he_o have_v not_o mention_v baptism_n upon_o any_o just_a ground_n or_o pertinent_a cause_n to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n that_o i_o can_v conceive_v he_o tell_v they_o they_o have_v no_o need_n of_o circumcision_n which_o be_v abolish_v and_o have_v the_o effect_n of_o it_o seal_v by_o and_o convey_v through_o or_o with_o outward_a baptism_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o call_v man_n to_o be_v saint_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o some_o thing_n say_v mr._n t._n baptism_n do_v not_o succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n in_o respect_n of_o signification_n for_o first_o circumcision_n do_v signify_v christ_n to_o come_v of_o isaac_n 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that_o in_o the_o old_a examine_v the_o three_o argument_n be_v thus_o frame_v if_o baptism_n be_v not_o grant_v to_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n than_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n will_v be_v more_o restrain_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n than_o in_o the_o old_a but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v affirm_v therefore_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n of_o believer_n answ_n 1._o if_o this_o argument_n be_v of_o any_o weight_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v straighten_a because_o we_o give_v not_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o child_n to_o who_o the_o passeover_n be_v give_v as_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o 2._o the_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v not_o tie_v to_o sacrament_n neither_o do_v sacrament_n give_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n do_v and_o therefore_o grace_n be_v not_o restrain_v though_o sacrament_n be_v
in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v with_o thy_o whole_a heart_n thou_o may_v be_v baptize_v where_o the_o apostle_n imply_v in_o his_o speech_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o defect_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o impediment_n of_o baptism_n we_o answer_v mr._n t._n afore_o confess_v p._n 24._o infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v if_o therefore_o he_o mean_v the_o defect_n of_o manifestation_n of_o faith_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n for_o there_o it_o be_v know_v that_o they_o be_v worse_o than_o infant_n so_o be_v it_o in_o circumcision_n if_o ishmael_n be_v a_o know_a scoffer_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o so_o his_o child_n be_v not_o circumcise_v unless_o perhaps_o after_o at_o year_n they_o give_v good_a testimony_n of_o their_o due_a subjection_n to_o the_o law_n so_o that_o to_o the_o whole_a argumentation_n we_o say_v that_o here_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o first_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o parent_n with_o confession_n and_o profession_n by_o many_o example_n and_o intimation_n but_o not_o a_o rule_n set_v down_o that_o thus_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o succession_n of_o believer_n child_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o thing_n more_o of_o this_o major_a proposition_n and_o the_o proof_n only_o wonder_v that_o among_o the_o crowd_n of_o scripture_n mr._n t._n quote_v he_o will_v thrust_v in_o that_o of_o act._n 19.5_o for_o baptism_n of_o water_n which_o be_v only_o a_o confer_v of_o the_o miraculary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o place_n can_v evince_v but_o mr._n t._n object_n this_o for_o a_o confirmation_n of_o his_o argument_n that_o if_o it_o be_v right_o argue_v from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n because_o self-examination_n be_v pre-required_n by_o like_a reason_n we_o may_v say_v baptism_n be_v not_o yield_v to_o infant_n because_o repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v pre-required_n act._n 2.38_o act._n 8.37_o and_o that_o of_o those_o that_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v beside_o what_o we_o say_v afore_o we_o answer_v to_o this_o argument_n great_a in_o show_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n between_o those_o place_n for_o baptism_n and_o that_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o 1._o that_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n speak_v of_o every_o communicant_a viritim_fw-la as_o count_v one_o after_o another_o let_v the_o party_n whosoever_o it_o be_v enter_v into_o self-examination_n before_o eat_v but_o that_o act._n 2.38_o speak_v in_o the_o gub_n or_o general_a to_o the_o parent_n and_o that_o act._n 8.37_o be_v speak_v to_o one_o only_a man_n and_o in_o that_o phrase_n that_o can_v be_v find_v elsewhere_o on_o that_o occasion_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o intimation_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o child_n admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o in_o that_o act._n 2._o present_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n v._o 39_o there_o be_v a_o intimation_n of_o their_o infant_n admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o before_o we_o have_v evince_v that_o clause_n of_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o the_o belong_v of_o the_o promise_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n in_o this_o argument_n for_o 1_o the_o parent_n by_o put_v to_o death_n christ_n have_v make_v themselves_o in_o wickedness_n worse_o than_o gentile_n 2_o that_o confession_n and_o profession_n be_v express_o call_v for_o only_o from_o they_o that_o be_v so_o apparent_o wicked_a 3_o that_o if_o they_o do_v come_v in_o by_o repentance_n the_o promise_n say_v the_o apostle_n present_o run_v to_o their_o child_n chap._n xiii_o the_o four_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n be_v take_v from_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n apostle_n exercit._fw-la sect._n 17._o the_o 4._o argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o practice_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n that_o tenet_n and_o practice_n be_v doubtful_a of_o which_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o tenet_n or_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v of_o itself_o manifest_a the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o lodovicus_n vives_z above-recited_n to_o which_o vossius_fw-la in_o the_o sibus_fw-la historico-theologicis_a of_o infant-baptisme_n join_v the_o testimony_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n and_o by_o the_o examine_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v and_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n which_o in_o historical_a business_n be_v wont_a to_o beget_v credit_n the_o word_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n 840._o in_o his_o book_n derebus_n ecclesiasticis_fw-la chap._n 26._o be_v these_o we_o be_v also_o to_o note_n that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_v only_o to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o who_o by_o integrity_n both_o of_o body_n and_o mind_n be_v already_o come_v to_o this_o that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o be_v obtain_v in_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v what_o last_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o christ_n thus_o far_o mr._n t._n and_o his_o quotation_n of_o walafridus_n 1._o to_o mr._n t._n his_o major_n we_o say_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o itself_o manifest_a for_o what_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v any_o record_n of_o antiquity_n for_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o many_o thing_n in_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n be_v they_o therefore_o doubtful_a when_o as_o we_o have_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o they_o therefore_o the_o mere_a fail_v of_o the_o vote_n of_o humane_a writer_n do_v not_o make_v a_o thing_n doubtful_a though_o the_o papist_n urge_v we_o with_o the_o like_a argument_n that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o true_a because_o we_o can_v produce_v history_n etc._n etc._n to_o show_v their_o succession_n in_o all_o age_n if_o we_o fail_v in_o record_n of_o antiquity_n we_o may_v thank_v the_o papist_n chief_o who_o as_o we_o may_v say_v martyr_v by_o fire_n and_o otherwise_o as_o well_o good_a book_n as_o godly_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o truth_n according_a to_o scripture_n stand_v where_o it_o do_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o minor_a we_o say_v in_o general_a 1._o that_o mr._n t._n tell_v we_o beside_o of_o lodovicus_n vives_z and_o wal._n strabo_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n of_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v of_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o of_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n but_o quote_v they_o not_o which_o be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o beget_v credit_n in_o the_o judicious_a reader_n it_o be_v too_o much_o to_o believe_v every_o author_n upon_o his_o bare_a word_n without_o other_o circumstance_n and_o therefore_o by_o much_o more_o too_o much_o to_o believe_v author_n not_o produce_v but_o only_o intimate_v by_o mr._n t._n 2._o mr._n tomb_n give_v we_o in_o two_o late-man_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o stream_n of_o ancient_a antiquity_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o those_o two_o 3._o if_o those_o two_o have_v be_v a_o considerable_a number_n or_o have_v produce_v to_o we_o any_o considerable_a reason_n or_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n high_o than_o themselves_o or_o any_o fair_a probability_n or_o circumstance_n how_o they_o gather_v it_o they_o will_v soon_o have_v beget_v credit_n then_o as_o they_o be_v now_o propose_v in_o particular_a first_o to_o ludovicus_n vives_z we_o answer_v
t._n well_o know_v subordinate_a thing_n be_v not_o contrary_a christ_n regenerate_v therefore_o do_v he_o not_o do_v it_o by_o his_o ordinance_n word_n baptism_n &_o c_o we_o have_v hear_v afore_o that_o though_o christ_n be_v the_o author_n of_o our_o salvation_n yet_o it_o be_v say_v we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o for_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o thing_n signify_v the_o thing_n signify_v be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n we_o add_v ephes_n 5.26.1_o pet._n 1.23_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o we_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n by_o the_o word_n and_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o we_o know_v christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n be_v the_o author_n of_o these_o 3_o other_o of_o the_o approve_a ancient_n as_o commentator_n on_o irenaeus_n call_v baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o regeneration_n nazianzen_n call_v baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n or_o of_o the_o new-birth_n nazianz._n orat._n 402._o in_o sanct._n bapt._n augustine_n say_v as_o by_o the_o first_o man_n man_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n and_o death_n so_o by_o christ_n renascuntur_fw-la they_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o or_o into_o righteousness_n and_o eternal_a life_n in_o or_o through_o baptism_n aug._n lib._n de_fw-fr bapt._n &_o hab_o &_o cons_n ambrose_n say_v god_n the_o omnipotent_a father_n who_o have_v regenerate_v thou_o of_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n ambros_n de_fw-fr sacram._n hieronimus_fw-la the_o bloody_a body_n of_o infant_n be_v wash_v as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v bear_v so_o the_o spiritual_a generation_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o save_a laver_n hieron_n lib._n 4._o ezek._n ca._n 16._o more_o may_v be_v allege_v but_o these_o enough_o to_o clear_v the_o business_n in_o hand_n that_o irenaeus_n mean_v by_o be_v bornagain_a or_o regenerate_v baptism_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n 7._o mr._n t._n examen_fw-la sect._n 4._o p._n 7._o that_o irenaeus_n say_v christ_n be_v fifty_o year_n old_a a●_n he_o have_v receive_v it_o from_o those_o that_o converse_v with_o john_n the_o apostle_n and_o thereby_o mr._n tomb_n will_v blemish_v irenaeus_n his_o testimony_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la first_o man_n have_v their_o mistake_n else_o they_o be_v not_o man_n but_o as_o angel_n second_o mr._n t._n refer_v we_o to_o far_o worse_a author_n full_a of_o superstition_n in_o scham_n before_o and_o his_o ludovicus_n vives_z and_o his_o walafridus_n we_o and_o vossius_fw-la too_o have_v note_v before_o for_o their_o gross_a expression_n and_o mistake_n three_o which_o be_v main_o to_o the_o point_n irenaeus_n say_v infant_n may_v be_v bear_v again_o that_o be_v baptize_v as_o from_o himself_o though_o he_o report_v the_o whole_a age_n of_o christ_n from_o other_o who_o if_o they_o write_v his_o age_n by_o cipher_n in_o aftertime_n fifty_o may_v easy_o be_v mistake_v for_o thirty_o the_o three_o and_o last_o author_n we_o will_v urge_v from_o this_o first_o age_n tertullian_n tertullian_n or_o first_o hundred_o year_n or_o century_n next_o follow_v the_o apostle_n time_n be_v tertullian_n who_o helvicus_n put_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o age_n afore_o say_v namely_o in_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 195._o which_o be_v as_o about_o the_o 95_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o john_n the_o evangelist_n but_o the_o same_o helvicus_n say_v this_o of_o he_o put_v in_o that_o year_n out_o of_o eusebius_n and_o hieron_n that_o he_o put_v forth_o his_o book_n of_o prescription_n and_o that_o he_o be_v the_o three_o latin_a writer_n and_o bucholcerus_n mention_n he_o as_o famous_a about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 208_o that_o be_v 108._o after_o st._n john_n that_o be_v but_o about_o thirteen_o year_n after_o the_o time_n set_v down_o by_o helvicus_n for_o he_o say_v that_o about_o that_o time_n catalogo_fw-la hieron_n in_o catalogo_fw-la cyprian_n as_o hieron_n testify_v do_v ascribe_v so_o much_o to_o tertullia_n writing_n that_o when_o he_o call_v for_o one_o of_o his_o author_n or_o writer_n he_o will_v say_v dam_fw-la magistrum_fw-la that_o be_v give_v i_o my_o master_n when_o he_o mean_v tertullian_n therefore_o he_o write_v divers_a year_n afore_o the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n of_o infant-baptisme_n lib._n de_fw-fr anim._n cap._n 39_o &_o 40._o be_v these_o hinc_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o ap●st_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v for_o hence_o also_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v that_o of_o either_o sex_n sanctify_v be_v procreate_v those_o that_o be_v holy_a as_o by_o the_o prerogative_n of_o seed_n so_o by_o the_o discipline_n or_o rule_n of_o institution_n but_o they_o be_v bear_v unclean_a as_o if_o by_o this_o nevertheless_o he_o will_v have_v it_o understand_v that_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v designatos_fw-la the_o design_v once_o of_o holiness_n and_o thereby_o also_o of_o salvation_n that_o these_o pledge_n of_o hope_n may_v patronage_n those_o marriage_n which_o he_o have_v judge_v to_o be_v keep_v undissolved_a otherwise_o he_o have_v mind_v the_o lord_n determination_n unless_o one_o be_v bear_v of_o water_n and_o of_o the_o spirit_n he_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o be_v he_o shall_v not_o be_v holy_a so_o every_o soul_n be_v count_v to_o be_v in_o adam_n till_o he_o be_v recount_v to_o be_v in_o christ_n and_o so_o long_o to_o be_v impure_a till_o he_o be_v recount_v thus_o tertullian_n whence_o note_n first_o by_o the_o way_n how_o the_o opinion_n of_o antiquity_n touch_v that_o place_n 1_o cor._n 7.14_o be_v contrary_a to_o mr._n tomb_n his_o opinion_n second_o direct_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n he_o hold_v forth_o these_o notion_n first_o the_o birthright_n of_o believer_n infant_n the_o parent_n and_o child_n be_v both_o under_o that_o promise_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n they_o be_v say_v tertullian_n by_o the_o sanctification_n of_o one_o of_o the_o parent_n procreate_v holy_a partly_o by_o the_o prerogative_n of_o the_o seed_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o believe_a abraham_n and_o of_o thy_o seed_n gen._n 17.7_o partly_o by_o the_o discipline_n of_o institution_n therefore_o thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n to_o give_v the_o first_o seal_n to_o every_o male_a of_o thy_o seed_n gen._n 17.9_o or_o act._n 2._o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o you_o be_v call_v to_o your_o child_n also_o so_o that_o tertullian_n mean_v that_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v reputative_o and_o federal_o holy_a which_o be_v the_o more_o plain_a by_o that_o which_o follow_v of_o count_v in_o adam_n and_o recount_v in_o christ_n second_o the_o capacity_n of_o child_n of_o grace_n and_o salvation_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o seal_n for_o the_o deed_n and_o their_o seal_n follow_v the_o right_n of_o the_o inheritance_n so_o all_o along_o the_o 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vossius_fw-la by_o this_o place_n prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o tertullian_n in_o that_o note_a place_n of_o chap._n 18._o argument_n h._n d._n master_n t._n in_o his_o 10_o argument_n of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la that_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptise_a which_o some_o allege_v against_o infant-baptism_n but_o be_v indeed_o for_o it_o tertullia_n word_n be_v these_o itaeque_fw-la pro_fw-la cujusque_fw-la personae_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o according_a to_o every_o person_n condition_n disposition_n and_o age_n the_o delay_n of_o baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a but_o especial_o concern_v little_a child_n for_o what_o necessity_n be_v there_o they_o there_o those_o word_n between_o junius_n say_v may_v be_v leave_v out_o mr_n t._n in_o his_o 10_o argument_n leave_v they_o out_o but_o in_o the_o best_a edition_n of_o tertullian_n they_o be_v in_o vossius_fw-la take_v they_o in_o
and_o allege_v they_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o much_o a_o necessity_n as_o to_o have_v witness_n also_o in_o the_o danger_n the_o lord_n say_v indeed_o forbid_v they_o not_o to_o come_v unto_o i_o let_v they_o come_v therefore_o when_o they_o grow_v up_o to_o youth_n etc._n etc._n so_o tertullian_n in_o the_o aforesaid_a book_n concern_v baptism_n upon_o which_o place_n vossius_fw-la paedob_n vossius_fw-la thes_n theolog_fw-la &_o hist_o de_fw-fr paedob_n say_v thus_o we_o think_v that_o nothing_o be_v here_o deny_v but_o only_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n when_o there_o be_v no_o danger_n of_o death_n for_o that_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n what_o necessity_n if_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o necessity_n as_o etc._n etc._n but_o in_o no_o case_n do_v he_o deny_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v yea_o and_o if_o there_o be_v danger_n lest_o afterward_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v its_o plain_a they_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v which_o we_o do_v not_o 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and_o further_o answer_v in_o the_o 14_o chap._n of_o our_o animadversion_n at_o the_o word_n cyprian_n in_o the_o margin_n that_o this_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o these_o author_n justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n and_o tertullian_n in_o this_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n will_v further_o appear_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o most_o approve_a ancient_n that_o follow_v they_o in_o the_o next_o succeed_a age_n which_o we_o have_v think_v most_o proper_a to_o defer_v to_o the_o next_o chapter_n of_o our_o animadversion_n upon_o mr_n t._n his_o five_o argument_n chap._n xiiii_o the_o five_o argument_n that_o which_o in_o succeed_a age_n in_o which_o it_o be_v in_o use_n it_o exercitat_fw-la argu._n 4._o §_o 17._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o wrong_n original_a of_o infant-baptism_n confirm_v against_o it_o be_v in_o force_n 1_o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v 2_o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n 3_o without_o universal_a practice_n 4_o together_o with_o the_o 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his_o fellow-bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o which_o mention_n be_v make_v epist_n 59_o ad_fw-la fidum_fw-la second_o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n as_o the_o doubt_n of_o fidus_n in_o the_o 59_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n intimate_v though_o there_o be_v also_o other_o reason_n of_o infant-baptisme_n as_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n and_o the_o greediness_n to_o increase_v the_o number_n of_o christian_n and_o perhaps_o the_o imitation_n of_o heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o and_o some_o other_o three_o without_o universal_a practice_n for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o constantine_n although_o bear_v of_o helena_n his_o mother_n a_o christian_a be_v not_o baptize_v till_o age_a as_o eusebius_n in_o the_o life_n of_o constantine_n write_v by_o he_o the_o same_o be_v manifest_a from_o the_o book_n of_o confession_n of_o augustine_n concern_v augustine_n himself_o who_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o 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solemnity_n etc._n etc._n be_v so_o obvious_a to_o he_o that_o read_v father_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n that_o no_o man_n will_v need_v proof_n ergo._n and_o in_o very_a deed_n as_o of_o old_a because_o the_o right_n of_o infant-baptisme_n seem_v to_o be_v of_o so_o great_a moment_n against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o council_n under_o cyprian_a the_o council_n of_o milevis_n augustine_n hierom_n and_o other_o rather_o then_o for_o any_o solid_a argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n in_o former_a age_n infant-baptisme_n prevail_v so_o in_o this_o last_o age_n some_o modern_a man_n seem_v to_o embrace_v this_o tenet_n of_o infant-baptisme_n out_o of_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v go_v headlong_o into_o the_o pernicious_a error_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n and_o their_o mad_a fury_n or_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o desert_n the_o leading-man_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n or_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n rather_o 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object_n that_o if_o we_o read_v the_o passage_n themselves_o we_o cite_v examen_fw-la examen_fw-la and_o consider_v how_o they_o be_v bring_v in_o and_o how_o plain_a the_o expression_n be_v against_o the_o pelagian_o we_o will_v quick_o conceive_v that_o those_o passage_n be_v put_v in_o after_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n be_v confute_v by_o hieronimus_fw-la and_o augustin_n who_o often_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o father_n afore_o that_o controversy_n arise_v do_v not_o speak_v plain_o against_o the_o pelagian_o and_o of_o all_o other_o origen_n be_v most_o tax_v as_o pelagianize_a we_o answer_v animadver_n animadver_n first_o for_o our_o part_n we_o have_v read_v the_o place_n we_o quote_v out_o of_o origen_n with_o the_o coherence_n of_o the_o precede_a and_o succeed_a word_n as_o mr_n t._n may_v perceive_v by_o our_o touch_n of_o observation_n on_o the_o place_n some_o hint_n there_o be_v we_o confess_v against_o some_o piece_n of_o pelagianism_n which_o may_v be_v conceive_v by_o 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t._n that_o if_o it_o be_v so_o manifest_a as_o you_o speak_v you_o shall_v find_v nothing_o in_o eusebius_n for_o infant-baptisme_n nor_o in_o ignatius_n nor_o in_o clemen_n alexandrinus_n nor_o in_o athanasius_n nor_o in_o epiphanius_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v 1._o mr._n t._n bring_v but_o one_o place_n out_o of_o one_o origen_n to_o prove_v as_o he_o pretend_v that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v but_o a_o tradition_n we_o bring_v four_o for_o the_o contrary_a justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n origen_n and_o nazianzen_n and_o yet_o these_o be_v not_o sufficient_a with_o he_o unless_o we_o hear_v ignatius_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n etc._n etc._n say_v so_o too_o 2_o a_o non_fw-la dicto_fw-la and_o non_fw-la factum_fw-la not_o valet_fw-la consequentia_fw-la many_o thing_n have_v be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n which_o those_o author_n may_v not_o mention_v 3_o they_o may_v speak_v of_o infant-baptisme_n in_o some_o of_o their_o work_n which_o long_o since_o be_v lose_v 4_o 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in_o we_o be_v transfuse_v from_o adam_n whence_o david_n say_v he_o be_v bear_v in_o iniquity_n and_o conceive_v in_o sin_n psal_n 51._o not_o accuse_v his_o mother_n but_o intimate_v his_o sinfulness_n which_o run_v down_o from_o his_o progenitor_n and_o now_o the_o lawmaker_n command_v he_o out_o of_o who_o proceed_v the_o seed_n of_o copulation_n that_o be_v ●e_z that_o have_v effuse_v his_o seed_n for_o procreation_n of_o child_n yea_o also_o the_o woman_n that_o have_v receive_v it_o to_o wash_v the_o body_n because_o she_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o which_o be_v describe_v this_o whole_a temple_n of_o we_o that_o be_v the_o whole_a man_n consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n in_o that_o adam_n be_v make_v filthy_a by_o disobedience_n he_o make_v his_o seed_n to_o be_v filthy_a and_o so_o necessary_o the_o body_n to_o be_v filthy_a which_o be_v of_o the_o seed_n in_o which_o he_o be_v unclean_a until_o the_o even_o that_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o christ_n come_v 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in_o future_a time_n and_o thence_o wish_v ebion_n not_o to_o imitate_v christ_n in_o circumcision_n of_o himself_o or_o other_o at_o last_o he_o speak_v in_o these_o very_a word_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v epiphanius_n have_v remove_v the_o time_n of_o this_o circumcision_n for_o he_o come_v and_o fulfil_v it_o have_v give_v the_o perfect_a circumcision_n of_o his_o mystery_n and_o that_o not_o in_o one_o member_n only_o but_o in_o the_o whole_a body_n seal_v and_o circumcise_v from_o sin_n and_o save_v not_o one_o only_a part_n of_o the_o people_n that_o be_v man_n only_o but_o also_o all_o the_o people_n of_o christian_n indeed_o sign_v or_o seal_v man_n and_o woman_n and_o liberal_o for_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o not_o in_o exhibit_v the_o seal_n defective_o to_o one_o rank_n or_o state_n virorum_fw-la of_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o imbecility_n but_o to_o all_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o epiphanius_n write_v there_o of_o 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see_v mr_n t._n confess_v present_o follow_v that_o ambrose_n and_o augustin_n in_o his_o 4_o book_n the_o baptism_n contra_fw-la donatistas_n c._n 22._o yield_v that_o either_o martyrdom_n or_o the_o desire_n of_o baptism_n may_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o baptism_n we_o can_v add_v several_a other_o expression_n of_o augustine_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 663._o tom._n 5.713_o edit_fw-la bas_n contra_fw-la donat._n l._n 5._o to._n 7.452_o edit_fw-la bas_n ibid._n 101._o ibid._n 663._o as_o that_o death_n sometime_o supply_v the_o place_n of_o baptism_n that_o suffer_v faith_n conversion_n of_o the_o heart_n supply_v the_o room_n of_o baptism_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o blood_n be_v great_a than_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o river_n that_o little_a one_o not_o baptize_v have_v a_o most_o easy_a condemnation_n last_o whatever_o the_o rigidness_n of_o augustin_n and_o ambrose_n be_v in_o some_o passage_n touch_v infant-baptism_n the_o grand_a point_n in_o hand_n be_v whether_o baptism_n in_o these_o man_n and_o other_o father_n time_n be_v in_o practice_n as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n or_o as_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n and_o for_o the_o latter_a those_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o ancient_n be_v full_a and_o to_o purpose_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v for_o mr_n t._n endeavour_v to_o detract_v from_o augustine_n touch_v his_o infer_v the_o necessarynesse_n of_o infant-baptisme_n from_o john_n 3.5_o because_o aquinas_n and_o bellarmine_n urge_v the_o same_o place_n for_o the_o same_o point_n word_n point_n see_v marlorat_n on_o the_o place_n &_o bullingers_n word_n to_o i_o be_v a_o poor_a argument_n do_v the_o papist_n and_o we_o agree_v in_o no_o truth_n do_v not_o general_o all_o our_o most_o famous_a godly_a and_o learned_a protestant_n within_o this_o last_o hundred_o year_n understand_v that_o very_a place_n of_o baptism_n and_o dare_v any_o of_o we_o in_o our_o pulpit_n say_v there_o be_v not_o necessitas_fw-la praecepti_fw-la &_o medy_n a_o mandatory_a and_o instrumental_a necessity_n of_o ordinance_n that_o at_o our_o peril_n we_o may_v not_o wilful_o neglect_v they_o so_o that_o with_o cyprian_a afore_o quote_v we_o conclude_v we_o must_v not_o as_o far_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v debarr_o our_o posterity_n from_o salvation_n likewise_o the_o next_o objection_n of_o m._n t._n be_v not_o so_o considerable_a 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o where_o he_o say_v that_o he_o can_v find_v among_o the_o ancient_n for_o baptism_n that_o ground_n of_o we_o that_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n belong_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o seed_n for_o first_o we_o demand_v animadver_n animadver_n must_v not_o the_o worthy_a ancient_n be_v say_v to_o hold_v a_o tenet_n upon_o scripture-argument_n for_o that_o be_v the_o point_n at_o present_a unless_o they_o hold_v it_o upon_o all_o argument_n 2_o we_o find_v few_o of_o our_o argument_n against_o episcopacy_n in_o the_o father_n yet_o in_o this_o we_o side_n with_o aerius_n against_o they_o though_o they_o condemn_v he_o for_o heretical_a 3_o antiquity_n have_v somewhat_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o relation_n to_o infant-baptisme_n in_o the_o thing_n we_o have_v afore_o quote_v tertullian_n set_v recount_v in_o christ_n over_o against_o count_v in_o adam_n cyprian_n epistle_n tell_v we_o in_o those_o time_n they_o look_v to_o circumcision_n for_o infant_n baptism_n gre._n nazianzen_n once_o and_o augustine_n oft_o make_v parallel_n and_o comparison_n between_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n tertullian_n again_o say_v that_o the_o child_n of_o either_o parental-sexe_n sanctify_v be_v holy_a by_o the_o prerogative_n of_o the_o seed_n and_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n see_v also_o before_o clem._n alexandrinus_n and_o hesichius_n yea_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v so_o far_o transport_v in_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o descent_n of_o the_o line_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n from_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o child_n that_o they_o do_v transcend_v to_o this_o opinion_n that_o the_o child_n conceive_v and_o be_v in_o the_o mother_n at_o her_o baptism_n be_v some_o how_o baptize_v in_o the_o mother_n this_o appear_v partly_o from_o augustine_n dispute_v the_o contrary_n basil_n contrary_n august_n lib._n 6_o contra_fw-la julian._n col._n 11_o 19_o edit_n basil_n and_o it_o be_v not_o my_o note_n only_o but_o the_o note_n of_o some_o other_o also_o and_o partly_o from_o one_o clause_n in_o a_o decree_n of_o the_o neo●asarien_n synod_n hold_v anno._n 313._o after_o christ_n as_o some_o interpret_v it_o zanar_n it_o balsam_n et_fw-fr zanar_n wherein_o they_o decree_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n that_o be_v the_o woman_n great_a with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v when_o she_o please_v for_o in_o this_o she_o that_o be_v about_o to_o bring_v forth_o impart_v nothing_o to_o the_o child_n that_o be_v to_o be_v bear_v now_o if_o this_o be_v so_o exit_fw-la malis_fw-la moribus_fw-la bonae_fw-la procreantur_fw-la leges_fw-la that_o a_o law_n suppose_v a_o fault_n then_o there_o be_v some_o how_o some_o what_o too_o much_o inspection_n in_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n upon_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n animadver_n examen_fw-la animadver_n as_o for_o the_o popish_a schoolman_n biel_n cajetan_n and_o gerson_n touch_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n which_o mr._n t._n allege_v we_o be_v not_o careful_a to_o give_v any_o answer_n to_o they_o as_o we_o be_v not_o to_o care_v for_o their_o opinion_n protestant_n be_v not_o tie_v to_o make_v good_a the_o dream_n of_o papist_n or_o if_o this_o will_v not_o go_v for_o a_o answer_n let_v one_o of_o their_o own_o tribe_n answer_v they_o namely_o peter_n lombard_n in_o his_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n 3_o of_o joh._n ver_fw-la 5._o upon_o which_o aquinas_n and_o ballarmine_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o rout_n tower_a up_o on_o high_a their_o too_o sublime_a and_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n upon_o pain_n of_o salvation_n peter_n lumbards_n word_n be_v the_o place_n of_o joh._n 3.5_o unless_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n he_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v say_v he_o of_o those_o which_o may_v be_v yet_o contemn_v to_o be_v baptize_v to_o that_o mr._n t._n object_n about_o augustine_n opinion_n of_o give_v the_o holy_a supper_n to_o infant_n we_o will_v answer_v to_o god_n permit_v anon_o when_o we_o return_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o exercitation_n sect._n 17._o where_o he_o have_v the_o same_o charge_n against_o augustine_n though_o it_o be_v quite_o beside_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n of_o infant-baptisme_n and_o without_o all_o coherence_n of_o argumentation_n in_o the_o dispute_n mr._n t._n yet_o again_o urge_v even_o to_o a_o surfeit_n upon_o it_o augustine_n opinion_n of_o the_o
will_v be_v mistake_v thus_o of_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_a that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o of_o the_o apostle_n but_o he_o can_v tell_v when_o as_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o his_o second_o particular_a of_o jewish_a imitation_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la we_o have_v speak_v already_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o major_a animadver_n animadver_n and_o we_o have_v show_v that_o the_o pious_a learned_a ancient_n have_v other_o scripture_n reason_n then_o only_a circumcision_n or_o their_o greediness_n to_o increase_v the_o number_n of_o christian_n who_o so_o oft_o give_v warning_n to_o take_v heed_n to_o who_o they_o give_v that_o sacred_a thing_n baptism_n 18._o baptism_n caeterum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la credendumesse_n sciunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la officium_fw-la est_fw-la nolite_fw-la dare_v sanctum_fw-la canibus_fw-la ne_fw-la participes_fw-la a_o liena_fw-la delicta_fw-la etc._n etc._n textul_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la cap._n 18._o or_o mr_n t._n his_o perhaps_o a_o fine_a word_n for_o a_o argument_n and_o in_o divine_a thing_n heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o when_o justin_n martyr_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n apologize_v against_o heathenism_n for_o christianity_n and_o many_o of_o our_o quote_v author_n seal_v their_o opposition_n against_o heathenism_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o true_a jewish_a imitation_n of_o circumcision_n in_o infant-baptisme_n it_o be_v in_o fidus_n that_o think_v child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o the_o eight_o day_n and_o not_o in_o cyprian_n epistle_n that_o confute_v he_o nor_o do_v they_o more_o intimate_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n then_o christ_n himself_o john_n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n he_o bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n &c._n &c._n which_o be_v a_o place_n they_o oft_o quote_v or_o the_o apostle_n that_o say_v we_o be_v baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o for_o receivall_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n which_o they_o hierom_n and_o other_o also_o allege_v and_o it_o be_v most_o sure_a there_o be_v such_o a_o necessity_n in_o regard_n of_o god_n precept_n and_o mean_n as_o to_o we_o in_o the_o use_n of_o ordinance_n as_o let_v they_o venture_v their_o salvation_n on_o the_o willing_a neglect_n of_o they_o that_o dare_v i_o dare_v not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o put_v more_o in_o a_o ordinance_n than_o god_n ever_o put_v in_o it_o as_o the_o anabaptist_n talk_v of_o wonderful_a strange_a manifestation_n at_o and_o in_o the_o act_n of_o dip_v i_o know_v what_o i_o speak_v or_o to_o think_v one_o be_v damn_v without_o a_o ordinance_n when_o god_n prevent_v the_o have_v it_o by_o death_n or_o otherwise_o so_o great_a be_v the_o sin_n to_o contemn_v a_o ordinance_n enjoin_v when_o it_o may_v be_v have_v as_o tertullian_n speak_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la chap._n 13._o etc._n hic_fw-la ergo_fw-la scelestissimi_fw-la illi_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o those_o most_o graceless_a follow_v provoke_v question_n so_o that_o they_o say_v baptism_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o who_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a etc._n etc._n to_o mr_n t._n 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o his_o three_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_n that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v for_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v while_o a_o infant_n though_o his_o mother_n helena_n be_v a_o christian_a nor_o augustine_n though_o his_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o christian_a etc._n etc._n we_o answer_v 1_o no_o wonder_n if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v in_o all_o age_n animadver_n animadver_n when_o so_o many_o sect_n under_o one_o notion_n or_o another_o more_o or_o less_o stick_v at_o it_o first_o arrian_n in_o one_o age_n after_o that_o the_o pelagian_o in_o another_o after_o they_o arminius_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o luther_n time_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o ainsworths_n time_n and_o now_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o our_o time_n shall_v these_o man_n make_v a_o practice_n and_o then_o make_v of_o it_o a_o argument_n for_o themselves_o who_o will_v be_v sway_v with_o such_o a_o argument_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v make_v out_o their_o practice_n from_o a_o argument_n and_o not_o make_v a_o argument_n of_o their_o practice_n 2_o mr_n t._n do_v not_o here_o so_o much_o as_o say_v that_o helena_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o constantine_n birth_n or_o that_o monica_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o augustine_n birth_n which_o to_o have_v clear_v be_v necessary_a to_o the_o argument_n 3_o who_o do_v not_o know_v that_o history_n make_v mention_n of_o helena_n as_o of_o a_o very_a weak_a and_o wonderful_a i_o have_v almost_o say_v superstitious_a christian_n trans_fw-la socrat._v schol_a ecles_n hist_o lib._n 1._o chap._n 13._o according_a to_o the_o english_a trans_fw-la in_o dig_v for_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o find_v three_o to_o wit_v those_o two_o also_o on_o which_o the_o thief_n be_v crucify_v on_o and_o be_v perplex_v which_o be_v christ_n a_o miracle_n of_o cure_v a_o die_a woman_n with_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n resolve_v which_o be_v his_o and_o so_o she_o lock_v up_o some_o of_o it_o in_o a_o silver_n chest_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v set_v up_o upon_o a_o pillar_n in_o the_o market_n place_n at_o constantinople_n so_o call_v of_o constantine_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o that_o city_n as_o also_o that_o she_o find_v the_o nail_n that_o fasten_v christ_n to_o the_o cross_n she_o send_v they_o to_o her_o son_n constantine_n the_o emperor_n whereof_o he_o cause_v bit_n for_o bridle_n helmet_n and_o head-piece_n to_o be_v make_v which_o he_o wear_v in_o battle_n so_o socrate_n eccles_n you_o see_v how_o vain_a a_o story_n here_o be_v and_o that_o all_o the_o christianity_n by_o this_o appear_v in_o helena_n relate_v to_o the_o time_n of_o her_o son_n constantine_n be_v emperor_n and_o therefore_o what_o mr_n t._n can_v make_v of_o it_o to_o his_o purpose_n i_o know_v not_o 4._o at_o this_o time_n of_o constantine_n birth_n be_v great_a persecution_n rise_v now_o almost_o towards_o the_o high_a it_o cost_v after_o that_o constantine_n many_o a_o battle_n before_o he_o can_v quiet_a thing_n and_o therefore_o helena_n the_o empress_n the_o wife_n of_o constantius_n the_o emperor_n religion_n then_o dare_v little_a to_o peep_v forth_o more_o than_o in_o notorious_a suffering_n for_o it_o may_v well_o be_v afraid_a if_o she_o be_v then_o a_o christian_a to_o do_v such_o a_o act_n as_o to_o carry_v her_o son_n to_o baptism_n as_o minister_n may_v be_v afraid_a to_o do_v it_o constantius_n the_o father_n not_o be_v a_o christian_n though_o political_o moderate_a 5._o for_o augustine_n 1._o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o aug._n confession_n the_o first_o book_n and_o 11._o chap._n that_o his_o father_n be_v not_o a_o believer_n at_o his_o birth_n nor_o when_o he_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o be_v a_o little_a boy_n of_o some_o understanding_n for_o he_o say_v there_o in_o the_o description_n of_o himself_o while_o he_o be_v pver_fw-la a_o little_a boy_n or_o lad_n ita_fw-la jam_fw-la credebam_fw-la et_fw-la illa_fw-la et_fw-la omnis_fw-la domus_fw-la nisi_fw-la pater_fw-la solus_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o i_o and_o my_o mother_n and_o all_o the_o family_n do_v now_o believe_v except_o my_o father_n only_o who_o notwithstanding_o do_v not_o control_v my_o mother_n power_n over_o i_o whereby_o i_o shall_v not_o believe_v in_o christ_n for_o she_o rather_o endeavour_v that_o thou_o o_o my_o god_n shall_v be_v my_o father_n rather_o than_o he_o so_o augustine_n now_o the_o want_n of_o the_o father_n concurrence_n in_o carry_v a_o child_n to_o baptism_n in_o those_o difficult_a time_n may_v be_v some_o delay_n of_o that_o sacrament_n for_o second_o we_o say_v persecution_n be_v walk_v among_o christian_n about_o that_o time_n for_o augustine_n in_o his_o three_o book_n chap._n 25._o contra_fw-la literas_fw-la petiliani_fw-la say_v that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o great_a tyrant_n he_o go_v into_o africa_n intimate_v also_o that_o his_o mother_n live_v a_o very_a private_a life_n his_o father_n be_v then_o dead_a three_o augustine_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o confession_n and_o 11._o chap._n that_o cum_fw-la pver_fw-la 14._o pver_fw-la one_o be_v say_v to_o begin_v to_o be_v a_o pver_fw-la from_o 〈◊〉_d 4_o year_n old_a &_o so_o upward_o to_o 14._o essem_fw-la et_fw-la quodam_fw-la die_fw-la pressus_fw-la stomachi_fw-la dolore_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o i_o be_v a_o little_a boy_n or_o lad_n be_v a_o certain_a day_n oppress_v in_o my_o stomach_n and_o sick_a even_o to_o death_n thou_o o_o god_n see_v because_o thou_o be_v my_o keeper_n with_o what_o motion_n of_o mind_n and_o with_o what_o faith_n i_o earnest_o desire_v from_o the_o piety_n of_o my_o mother_n and_o of_o thy_o church_n
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