Selected quad for the lemma: conscience_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
conscience_n	idol_n	knowledge_n	weak_a	1,298	5	9.3976	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10973	Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor.	Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.	1608 (1608)	STC 21241; ESTC S116109	75,976	132

holy_a unto_o the_o lord_n without_o which_o or_o the_o like_a they_o differ_v not_o from_o thing_n common_a and_o profane_a table_n your_o word_n be_v reproachful_a both_o to_o the_o holy_a and_o to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n s._n may_v not_o this_o promise_n seem_v at_o least_o to_o the_o simple_a to_o make_v way_n at_o least_o to_o the_o popish_a consecration_n p._n you_o will_v belike_o have_v we_o blind_o to_o come_v and_o take_v the_o sacrament_n as_o we_o do_v our_o ordinary_a food_n or_o if_o we_o use_v any_o word_n though_o never_o so_o heavenly_a we_o do_v popish_o consecrate_v in_o your_o opinion_n the_o word_n and_o prayer_n utter_v do_v make_v the_o bread_n &_o wine_n holy_a which_o before_o be_v common_a this_o be_v consecration_n we_o acknowledge_v yet_o not_o popish_a but_o christian_a s._n how_o grievous_a a_o sin_n it_o be_v to_o scandalize_v the_o weak_a may_v 6._o appear_v by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n viz_n who-soev_a shall_v offend_v one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o it_o be_v better_o for_o he_o that_o a_o millstone_n be_v hang_v about_o his_o neck_n and_o that_o he_o be_v drown_v in_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o sea_n p._n our_o saviour_n speak_v against_o give_v offence_n by_o open_a breach_n of_o god_n holy_a commandment_n or_o any_o of_o they_o if_o you_o can_v show_v any_o precept_n of_o god_n either_o by_o the_o church_n enjoin_v we_o to_o kneel_v or_o by_o our_o kneel_v violate_v than_o you_o may_v just_o conclude_v we_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o mention_a curse_n if_o you_o can_v whosoever_o be_v or_o be_v offend_v weak_a or_o strong_a their_o offence_n rash_o be_v assume_v not_o give_v and_o they_o be_v more_o to_o fear_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n for_o be_v offend_v without_o cause_n than_o we_o for_o kneel_v have_v no_o word_n of_o god_n to_o the_o contrary_n s._n saint_n paul_n likewise_o do_v say_v if_o meat_n offend_v my_o 13._o brother_n i_o will_v eat_v no_o flesh_n while_o the_o world_n stand_v that_o i_o may_v not_o offend_v my_o brother_n p._n the_o like_a be_v you_o and_o i_o and_o all_o true_a christian_n to_o say_v touch_v all_o thing_n in_o our_o power_n to_o do_v or_o leave_v undo_v but_o when_o by_o authority_n we_o be_v direct_v as_o at_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacramaent_n we_o be_v then_o be_v we_o not_o for_o offend_v of_o other_o pretend_v themselves_o to_o be_v weak_a to_o leave_v that_o undo_v which_o we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o perform_v disobedience_n be_v as_o the_o sin_n of_o witchcraft_n offensive_a to_o all_o good_a mind_n obedience_n unto_o lawful_a injunction_n may_v be_v offensive_a either_o to_o some_o weak_a or_o wicked_a person_n but_o nevertheless_a to_o be_v yield_v except_o god_n say_v to_o the_o contrary_a without_o scruple_n of_o conscience_n s._n what_o a_o offence_n or_o scandal_n be_v the_o apostle_n show_v in_o the_o same_o chap._n viz._n the_o occasion_n of_o fall_v to_o the_o weak_a p._n as_o how_o s._n the_o particular_a offence_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v this_o notwithstanding_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v at_o convenient_a 10._o time_n and_o that_o by_o the_o apostle_n yet_o many_o want_a knowledge_n &_o even_o unto_o that_o time_n do_v eat_v as_o a_o thing_n sacrifice_v unto_o a_o idol_n of_o who_o if_o any_o shall_v see_v a_o man_n endue_v with_o knowledge_n sit_v at_o table_n in_o the_o idol_n temple_n his_o weak_a conscience_n may_v occasinat_o be_v embolden_v to_o eat_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v sacrifice_v to_o idol_n p._n this_o instance_n of_o you_o be_v to_o be_v regard_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o idolatry_n or_o meat_n not_o consecrate_v but_o even_o sacrifice_v unto_o idol_n this_o meat_n so_o abuse_v the_o apostle_n condemn_v not_o as_o unlawful_a to_o be_v eat_v of_o christian_n but_o he_o blame_v those_o christian_n who_o in_o the_o idol_n temple_n among_o idolater_n do_v eat_v the_o same_o meat_n to_o the_o offence_n of_o all_o christian_n especial_o of_o the_o weak_a now_o be_v it_o that_o kneel_v as_o the_o meat_n sacrifice_v unto_o idol_n have_v be_v abuse_v of_o papist_n yet_o as_o meat_n so_o sacrifice_v may_v be_v both_o sell_v in_o the_o market_n and_o buy_v and_o eat_v of_o christian_n private_o or_o without_o offence_n so_o the_o gesture_n of_o kneel_v abuse_v by_o idolater_n may_v be_v well_o use_v of_o christian_n which_o may_v show_v how_o far_o you_o schismatickes_n be_v out_o of_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n and_o from_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o first_o and_o primitive_a christian_n who_o think_v that_o nothing_o either_o devise_v or_o abuse_v by_o papist_n may_v or_o can_v be_v well_o use_v in_o reform_a church_n and_o therefore_o do_v utter_o condemn_v among_o other_o thing_n this_o our_o kneel_v but_o if_o you_o find_v we_o to_o kneel_v in_o the_o idol_n temple_n offend_v thereby_o the_o weak_a and_o make_v they_o to_o fall_v and_o confirm_v of_o idolater_n then_o deserve_v we_o the_o blame_n which_o those_o temporizer_n at_o corinth_n deserve_o do_v incur_v but_o this_o you_o 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private_a then_o public_a person_n a_o few_o than_o a_o whole_a state_n yea_o we_o choose_v rather_o to_o do_v our_o duty_n conscionable_o then_o to_o offend_v for_o we_o offend_v not_o in_o obey_v lawful_a direction_n but_o they_o offend_v whosoever_o they_o be_v which_o take_v offence_n afore_o it_o be_v give_v s._n if_o saul_n will_v never_o eat_v flesh_n rather_o than_o he_o will_v 12._o offend_v in_o this_o case_n because_o in_o so_o do_v he_o shall_v sin_v against_o christ_n how_o dare_v a_o christian_a have_v knowledge_n kneel_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o any_o who_o for_o want_v of_o knowledge_n receive_v superstitious_o p._n in_o his_o case_n not_o in_o this_o case_n about_o kneel_v paul_n will_v not_o offend_v this_o case_n of_o we_o be_v not_o paul_n case_n for_o touch_v meat_n paul_n be_v at_o liberty_n to_o eat_v or_o not_o to_o eat_v neither_o god_n nor_o by_o his_o authority_n man_n have_v forbid_a meat_n or_o any_o kind_n of_o meat_n but_o lawful_a power_n have_v 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their_o own_o nature_n till_o they_o be_v either_o prescribe_v or_o prohibit_v indifferent_a such_o be_v our_o kneel_v at_o the_o holy_a table_n where_o in_o charity_n we_o be_v to_o think_v none_o superstitious_o do_v receive_v and_o if_o some_o do_v it_o be_v their_o private_a offence_n no_o public_a fault_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n furthermore_o when_o you_o grant_v that_o some_o person_n very_o religious_o receive_v when_o other_o superstitious_o do_v so_o see_v you_o not_o how_o with_o one_o and_o the_o same_o breath_n you_o grant_v the_o say_v kneel_v to_o be_v a_o gesture_n indifferent_a which_o before_o you_o deny_v abuse_v by_o some_o well_o use_v and_o without_o sin_n by_o other_o which_o over-throweth_a utter_o your_o

so_o the_o consequent_a in_o this_o your_o enthymeme_n viz._n kneel_v be_v to_o be_v remove_v from_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v of_o no_o validity_n both_o because_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o the_o premise_n and_o be_v force_v and_o infer_v against_o your_o conscience_n the_o four_o objection_n s._n it_o be_v a_o offence_n to_o the_o weak_a ergo._fw-la etc._n etc._n mat._n 18._o 6._o &_o seq_n rom._n 14._o 20_o 21._o 1._o cor._n 8._o 12_o 13_o &_o 10._o 28_o 29_o 30._o r._n it_o be_v a_o offence_n to_o the_o weak_a ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n what_o till_o i_o know_v your_o consequent_a this_o shall_v be_v my_o answer_n unto_o the_o antecedent_n how_o our_o saviour_n speak_v mat._n 18_o &_o seq_n of_o such_o default_n as_o whereby_o other_o man_n either_o by_o erroneous_a doctrine_n or_o vicious_a conversation_n be_v offend_v or_o hinder_v from_o their_o proceed_n either_o in_o godliness_n or_o good_a manner_n now_o saint_n paul_n in_o all_o the_o place_n by_o you_o quote_v speak_v of_o not_o offend_v in_o matter_n and_o thing_n in_o their_o own_o nature_n indifferent_a neither_o prohibit_v by_o god_n in_o his_o word_n nor_o by_o any_o lawful_a ordinance_n of_o man_n he_o that_o open_o any_o thing_n either_o do_v or_o say_v forbid_v of_o god_n both_o sin_v against_o god_n &_o give_v offence_n to_o man_n and_o may_v expect_v without_o repentance_n a_o fearful_a and_o double_a punishment_n both_o for_o his_o fact_n which_o be_v ill_a &_o for_o the_o example_n he_o thereby_o give_v which_o be_v worse_o again_o he_o that_o in_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o at_o man_n liberty_n to_o do_v or_o leave_v undo_v have_v not_o a_o tender_a care_n of_o weak_a christian_n in_o his_o do_v show_v that_o there_o be_v not_o that_o charity_n in_o he_o nor_o regard_n of_o his_o brethren_n which_o god_n require_v but_o though_o god_n do_v not_o yet_o if_o his_o deputy_n the_o god_n terrestrial_a do_v enjoin_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v not_o opposite_a to_o god_n word_n and_o tend_v unto_o concord_n among_o man_n order_n and_o comeliness_n and_o we_o will_v not_o obey_v nor_o fulfil_v their_o direction_n for_o offend_v some_o person_n pretend_v themselves_o to_o be_v weak_a then_o be_v we_o so_o far_o from_o do_v well_o as_o we_o do_v sin_n both_o against_o god_n &_o man_n in_o not_o fulfil_v their_o commandment_n if_o therefore_o charity_n by_o the_o text_n of_o saint_n paul_n bind_v we_o in_o thing_n uncommand_v or_o not_o forbid_v to_o respect_v the_o weak_a much_o more_o piety_n and_o duty_n towards_o our_o governor_n shall_v incite_v we_o to_o do_v the_o thing_n enjoin_v by_o just_a law_n disobedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a ordinance_n of_o godly_a governor_n be_v not_o only_o scandalous_a for_o the_o present_a but_o may_v prove_v very_o dangerous_a in_o the_o consequent_a wherefore_o a_o wise_a man_n shall_v not_o regard_v these_o lesser_a scandal_n of_o little_a &_o weak_a one_o in_o comparison_n of_o the_o inconvenience_n &_o great_a offence_n that_o arise_v &_o may_v follow_v through_o the_o manifest_a contempt_n of_o law_n establish_v and_o in_o case_n such_o as_o this_o kneel_v be_v wherein_o we_o can_v choose_v but_o offend_v either_o by_o do_v or_o not_o do_v that_o which_o be_v command_v better_o be_v it_o to_o offend_v the_o less_o than_o the_o great_a a_o few_o private_a person_n than_o a_o whole_a state_n and_o better_a bare_o to_o offend_v then_o to_o offend_v and_o sin_v too_o by_o fact_n and_o example_n as_o by_o wilful_a and_o open_a disobedience_n we_o do_v in_o this_o point_n touch_v kneel_v i_o know_v no_o weak_a one_o that_o just_o may_v be_v offend_v and_o if_o there_o be_v they_o be_v not_o much_o to_o be_v regard_v consider_v the_o long_a and_o constant_a preach_v of_o the_o truth_n in_o this_o land_n touch_v these_o and_o the_o like_a point_n in_o controversy_n it_o be_v a_o notable_a say_n of_o zanchius_n and_o approve_v by_o all_o learned_a and_o judicious_a divine_n that_o for_o a_o time_n some_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o these_o weak_a one_o which_o you_o speak_v of_o even_o till_o the_o truth_n may_v be_v teach_v they_o but_o after_o that_o the_o truth_n about_o these_o matter_n in_o question_n and_o the_o like_a have_v be_v set_v forth_o and_o lay_v open_a so_o as_o nothing_o can_v just_o be_v object_v against_o the_o same_o and_o yet_o purposely_o they_o will_v abide_v doubtful_a and_o unresolued_a then_o be_v not_o their_o infirmity_n any_o long_o either_o by_o simulation_n or_o dissimulation_n to_o be_v nourish_v est_fw-la enim_fw-la pertinacia_fw-la potiùs_fw-la quam_fw-la infirmitas_fw-la for_o it_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v count_v frowardness_n then_o weakness_n so_o zanchius_n 493._o s._n as_o there_o have_v be_v so_o there_o be_v and_o will_v be_v always_o weak_a one_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n both_o because_o it_o be_v god_n blessing_n which_o he_o bestow_v when_o and_o where_o he_o list_v that_o make_v strong_a and_o for_o that_o there_o be_v always_o some_o new_a bear_v babe_n succeed_v one_o another_o r._n weak_a or_o strong_a simple_a or_o wise_a young_a or_o old_a whosoever_o all_o must_v yield_v obedience_n to_o the_o order_n of_o that_o church_n whereof_o they_o be_v member_n in_o all_o such_o matter_n as_o be_v indifferent_a and_o not_o repugnant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n s._n kneel_v in_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v be_v not_o yet_o prove_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n indifferent_a r._n i_o think_v yourself_o will_v not_o say_v that_o kneel_v in_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v either_o good_a or_o evil_a then_o must_v it_o needs_o be_v indifferent_a even_o as_o sit_v be_v ista_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la idolatrica_n speak_v among_o other_o thing_n of_o this_o kneel_v now_o in_o question_n these_o be_v not_o thing_n of_o themselves_o idolatrous_a say_v beza_n 12._o therefore_o indifferent_a s._n in_o thing_n indifferent_a those_o in_o authority_n must_v limit_v their_o precept_n by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o will_v that_o the_o weak_a be_v not_o offend_v by_o any_o brother_n whatsoever_o r._n authority_n in_o make_v law_n must_v respect_v always_o the_o common_a and_o public_a good_a not_o what_o will_v please_v this_o or_o that_o man_n if_o the_o church_n shall_v stay_v from_o make_v of_o constitution_n till_o she_o can_v be_v assure_v that_o all_o her_o child_n will_v be_v please_v with_o her_o do_n hardly_o if_o ever_o shall_v she_o make_v any_o law_n and_o so_o will_v brawl_n and_o disorder_n without_o end_n or_o number_n increase_v &_o abound_v and_o have_v once_o make_v they_o to_o abrogate_v or_o not_o to_o execute_v they_o for_o fear_n of_o displease_v the_o weak_a what_o be_v it_o but_o either_o childish_a levity_n or_o ridiculous_a lenity_n the_o five_o objection_n s_o it_o strengthen_v the_o superstitious_a and_o idolatrous_a papist_n in_o their_o bread-worship_n ergo._fw-la 1_o cor._n 10._o 32._o r._n the_o papist_n they_o term_v the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n profane_a and_o detestable_a and_o deem_v of_o our_o communion_n as_o of_o idolatrous_a and_o sacrilegious_a superstition_n 31._o they_o think_v it_o better_a to_o eat_v ratsbane_n then_o to_o participate_v of_o our_o bread_n and_o to_o drink_v dragon_n gall_n and_o viper_n blood_n than_o our_o wine_n this_o they_o termesacrilegious_a that_o poison_v trogny_n when_o they_o take_v offence_n at_o the_o very_a substance_n be_v they_o strengthen_v at_o the_o accident_n when_o they_o abhor_v the_o matter_n take_v they_o comfort_v at_o our_o form_n and_o manner_n of_o receive_v the_o same_o and_o be_v they_o strengthen_v thereby_o in_o their_o bread-worship_n assure_v yourself_o it_o be_v all_o one_o to_o the_o papist_n whether_o we_o kneel_v or_o sit_v or_o walk_v or_o amble_v the_o whole_a action_n or_o ministration_n thereof_o whatsoever_o it_o be_v be_v to_o they_o a_o like_a vile_a and_o abominable_a you_o can_v prove_v our_o kneel_v in_o the_o receive_n the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n 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