Selected quad for the lemma: conscience_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
conscience_n	holy_a	sin_n	sin_v	2,051	5	9.4946	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A69195	Certaine demandes with their grounds, drawne out of holy writ, and propounded in foro conscientiæ by some religious gentl. vnto the reverend fathers, Richard archbishop of Canterbury, Richard bishop of London, William bishop of Lincolne, Garvase bishop of Worcester, William bishop of Exeter, & Thomas bishop of Peterbourough wherevnto the said gentl. require that it would please their lordships to make a true, plaine, direct, honest and resolute aunswere.	Bancroft, Richard, 1544-1610.	1605 (1605)	STC 6572.5; ESTC S112734	57,418	70

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word_n of_o god_n bear_v over_o the_o conscience_n of_o a_o subject_n if_o so_o be_v the_o magistrate_n conscience_n &_o command_n shall_v be_v the_o sovereign_a judge_n over_o the_o subject_n soul_n &_o sway_v the_o subject_n conscience_n and_o yet_o by_o this_o mean_n do_v we_o not_o take_v away_o the_o due_a preeminence_n and_o authority_n which_o by_o the_o holy_a worde_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n over_o the_o subject_n for_o in_o that_o 13._o that_o every_o soul_n be_v command_v to_o be_v subject_a for_o conscience_n sake_n to_o the_o high_a power_n this_o scripture_n by_o your_o lordship_n patience_n as_o we_o take_v it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v not_o for_o the_o conscience_n of_o he_o that_o command_v but_o for_o the_o conscience_n of_o he_o that_o obey_v because_o the_o subject_n without_o the_o breach_n of_o his_o conscience_n can_v not_o contemn_v the_o civil_a government_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v not_o to_o be_v over_o the_o soul_n but_o to_o be_v over_o the_o body_n and_o indeed_o to_o establish_v the_o command_n or_o conscience_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v the_o squire_n &_o plummet_n of_o every_o subject_n conscience_n be_v to_o wrest_v the_o holy_a scripture_n &_o to_o establish_v as_o the_o antichristianite_n do_v a_o tyranny_n over_o the_o conscience_n of_o subject_n thus_o much_o touch_v that_o late_a kind_n of_o humane_a decency_n and_o order_n before_o speak_v of_o and_o as_o concern_v that_o kind_n of_o decency_n &_o order_n for_o the_o which_o there_o may_v be_v testimony_n find_v in_o holy_a writ_n that_o they_o be_v please_v unto_o god_n we_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n and_o christian_a magistrate_n ought_v not_o only_o to_o be_v commander_n and_o preserver_n of_o the_o same_o but_o that_o both_o minister_n and_o people_n also_o aught_o to_o be_v follower_n and_o embracer_n thereof_o nay_o we_o say_v more_o yea_o we_o affirm_v that_o every_o humane_a decency_n &_o order_n whatsoever_o ought_v to_o stoop_v and_o give_v place_n unto_o that_o order_n and_o decency_n for_o the_o which_o testimony_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o holy_a writ_n that_o the_o same_o be_v please_v unto_o god_n and_o therefore_o we_o demand_v by_o what_o rule_n of_o holy_a writ_n your_o lordship_n can_v prove_v your_o late_a convocationall_a canon_n to_o have_v allowance_n from_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n when_o as_o by_o the_o same_o you_o have_v command_v a_o decency_n &_o order_n mere_o humane_a precise_o to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n instead_o of_o that_o decency_n &_o order_n which_o at_o the_o beginning_n be_v in_o the_o church_n &_o which_o being_n please_v unto_o god_n can_v not_o be_v but_o divine_a it_o have_v be_v in_o our_o judgment_n a_o fact_n not_o simple_o commendable_a if_o your_o lordship_n have_v but_o invent_v and_o add_v a_o humane_a decency_n and_o order_n unto_o that_o which_o have_v warrant_n from_o holy_a write_v to_o be_v divine_a but_o whole_o 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ecclesiastical_a or_o temporal_a ibid._n pag._n 252._o yea_o and_o moreover_o we_o believe_v if_o any_o shall_v impugn_v or_o gainsay_v this_o your_o power_n of_o make_v spiritual_a and_o ecclesiastical_a decree_n in_o your_o convocation_n not_o to_o belong_v proper_o to_o your_o ministerial_a power_n which_o you_o have_v by_o your_o divine_a office_n in_o the_o church_n that_o you_o will_v then_o fly_v for_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o statute_n 1._o elizab._n to_o our_o late_a queen_n injunction_n man_n whereby_o it_o be_v declare_v that_o nothing_o be_v be_v or_o shall_v be_v mean_v or_o intend_v by_o the_o oath_n require_v to_o have_v any_o other_o duty_n allegiance_n or_o band_n than_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v due_a to_o the_o most_o noble_a king_n of_o famous_a memory_n k._n h._n the_o eight_o her_o majesty_n father_n or_o to_o k._n ed._n 6._o her_o majesty_n brother_n and_o that_o the_o king_n and_o queen_n of_o this_o realm_n may_v not_o challenge_v authoririe_a and_o power_n of_o any_o ministry_n of_o divine_a office_n in_o the_o church_n but_o under_o god_n to_o have_v soveraintie_n &_o rule_n of_o all_o manner_n of_o person_n bear_v within_o her_o realm_n so_o as_o no_o other_o foreigne_a power_n shall_v or_o ought_v to_o have_v any_o superiority_n over_o they_o upon_o this_o injunction_n we_o say_v we_o build_v our_o former_a credence_n that_o your_o lordship_n judge_v your_o only_a person_n and_o the_o person_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n &_o not_o the_o ministry_n of_o your_o divine_a office_n or_o any_o part_n thereof_o to_o be_v under_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o king_n power_n unto_o which_o ministry_n also_o of_o divine_a office_n you_o attribute_v right_a of_o ordain_v and_o make_v canon_n rite_n and_o ceremony_n in_o the_o church_n as_o a_o right_n proper_o incident_a and_o appertain_v to_o that_o ministry_n not_o of_o doctrine_n but_o of_o divine_a government_n which_o you_o challenge_v to_o be_v due_a unto_o you_o as_o unto_o minister_n and_o officer_n appoint_v to_o rule_n and_o govern_v the_o church_n under_o christ_n by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o therefore_o we_o pray_v your_o lordship_n henceforwards_o to_o put_v we_o unto_o no_o more_o pain_n to_o answer_v this_o your_o argument_n of_o kingly_a and_o supreme_a authority_n for_o we_o believe_v assure_o if_o archbishop_n bishop_n dean_n archdeacon_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n assemble_v by_o the_o king_n write_v by_o their_o deliberate_a counsel_n voluntary_a and_o unconstrayned_a will_n have_v not_o in_o their_o synod_n decree_v the_o use_n of_o cope_n surplice_n cross_n square_a cappes_n tippet_n and_o such_o trash_n or_o if_o they_o have_v not_o by_o the_o precedent_n of_o their_o assembly_n most_o instant_o supplicate_v the_o king_n to_o command_v the_o use_n of_o these_o thing_n thus_o ordain_v by_o themselves_o we_o persuade_v ourselves_o assure_o that_o the_o king_n by_o his_o absolute_a regal_a and_o supreme_a power_n will_v never_o have_v constrain_v archbishop_n bishop_n dean_n archdeacon_n &c._n &c._n to_o have_v undergo_v the_o yoke_n of_o these_o ceremony_n for_o the_o king_n right_o well_o know_v that_o in_o so_o do_v he_o shall_v not_o have_v walk_v in_o the_o way_n of_o the_o godly_a king_n of_o judah_n than_o who_o holy_a example_n to_o follow_v his_o highness_n have_v protest_v to_o desire_v nothing_o more_o neither_o for_o any_o other_o purpose_n as_o it_o seem_v unto_o we_o by_o your_o late_a speech_n in_o the_o ear_n of_o the_o king_n no_o ceremony_n no_o bishop_n do_v yourselves_o press_v these_o ceremony_n then_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v in_o your_o own_o hand_n as_o crosier_n staff_n to_o stay_v up_o from_o fall_v the_o totter_a wall_n of_o your_o lordly_a jurisdiction_n and_o yet_o because_o we_o never_o read_v in_o holy_a writ_n that_o any_o ceremony_n be_v ever_o plant_v by_o our_o heavenly_a father_n to_o be_v a_o leanetoo_o for_o any_o bishop_n of_o god_n plant_v or_o that_o the_o unplant_n of_o a_o humane_a ceremony_n will_v be_v the_o unplant_n of_o any_o of_o god_n bishop_n what_o shall_v we_o gather_v from_o hence_o but_o that_o your_o lordship_n be_v no_o bishop_n of_o god_n plant_v for_o bishop_n plant_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n in_o the_o vineyard_n of_o christ_n be_v so_o fast_o set_v and_o so_o deep_o root_v that_o by_o no_o blast_n or_o storm_n of_o humane_a ceremony_n they_o can_v be_v blow_v up_o and_o thus_o much_o touch_v your_o argument_n of_o the_o king_n commandment_n for_o order_n sake_n as_o for_o the_o indifferency_n of_o the_o thing_n command_v the_o same_o have_v already_o be_v handle_v in_o a_o other_o place_n but_o touch_v the_o last_o part_n of_o your_o exception_n that_o the_o use_n of_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o command_v to_o the_o end_n that_o man_n shall_v be_v grieve_v offend_a fall_n stumble_v sin_n &_o destroy_v themselves_o we_o reject_v this_o as_o a_o impertinent_a &_o insufficient_a answer_n to_o our_o demand_n 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