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A43724 A continuation of The dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker wherein the truth of those things objected against them in the first part, are fully confirm'd : together with a further account of their perilous and pernitious errors concerning the person of Christ, His satisfaction, justification, sanctification, the ministry, and immediate motions are in this second part, cleerly and plainly represented out of the writings of some of their principal, and most approved leaders / published for the common information of such as either really are, or may be, in danger of being insnared and intangled by them by Thomas Hicks. Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent. 1673 (1673) Wing H1919; ESTC R21822 53,818 100

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13._o q._n whether_o that_o righteousness_n which_o be_v wrought_v by_o the_o saint_n be_v every_o way_n answerable_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n quak._n there_o again_o thy_o blindness_n be_v make_v manifest_a be_v there_o any_o righteousness_n but_o that_o of_o christ_n jesus_n and_o be_v not_o that_o every_o way_n answerable_a to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n but_o such_o pollute_a filthy_a beast_n as_o thou_o will_v have_v another_o righteousness_n but_o thy_o righteousness_n we_o deny_v and_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n we_o witness_v which_o shall_v be_v reveal_v on_o thou_o in_o flame_n of_o fire_n ibid._n p._n 33._o chr._n do_v ever_o man_n pretend_v i_o will_v not_o say_v to_o perfection_n or_o infallibility_n but_o to_o reason_n or_o modesty_n reply_n at_o this_o rate_n do_v every_o question_n affright_v he_o and_o put_v he_o into_o such_o a_o consternation_n as_o that_o he_o can_v express_v himself_o no_o otherwise_o then_o like_o one_o perfect_o mad_a there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o intimation_n in_o any_o of_o the_o forego_n question_n assert_v any_o other_o righteousness_n but_o that_o of_o christ_n and_o yet_o this_o wretched_a man_n have_v the_o confidence_n to_o say_v such_o filthy_a beast_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o account_v the_o querist_n will_v have_v another_o righteousness_n be_v not_o thou_o ashamed_a of_o this_o injustice_n and_o lie_v which_o thy_o dear_a brother_n edw._n burrough_n be_v guilty_a of_o to_o talk_v of_o your_o witness_v the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n be_v no_o more_o but_o your_o common_a and_o idle_a prate_n and_o nothing_o to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n must_v we_o be_v conclude_v only_o by_o what_o you_o ignorant_o and_o impudent_o say_v you_o witness_v 14._o q._n whether_o none_o be_v account_v righteous_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n in_o who_o be_v any_o corruption_n or_o fail_v or_o who_o do_v not_o fulfil_v the_o law_n and_o answer_v every_o demand_n of_o justice_n quak._n here_o thou_o 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condemnation_n the_o light_n in_o thy_o conscience_n than_o thou_o will_v know_v that_o nature_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o but_o now_o thou_o be_v in_o the_o nature_n that_o judas_n be_v in_o that_o betray_v he_o &_o that_o they_o be_v in_o that_o crucify_a he_o ibid._n p._n 33._o chr._n be_v there_o in_o this_o reply_n one_o word_n to_o the_o question_n can_v he_o not_o have_v answer_v yea_o or_o nay_o else_o where_o he_o grant_v that_o he_o who_o be_v slay_v upon_o the_o cross_n be_v the_o very_a christ_n of_o god_n and_o that_o the_o very_a christ_n of_o god_n be_v in_o he_o ibid._n p._n 149._o from_o whence_o we_o may_v infer_v that_o the_o light_n within_o be_v crucify_v at_o jerusalem_n must_v this_o pass_v for_o a_o infallible_a dictate_v sure_o not_o with_o any_o who_o be_v not_o under_o the_o influence_n of_o the_o quaker_n delusion_n but_o wherefore_o do_v burrough_n remain_v under_o such_o a_o paroxysm_n of_o fury_n be_v it_o not_o because_o each_o question_n do_v 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