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A26759 The utter routing of the whole army of all the Independents and Sectaries, with the totall overthrow of their hierarchy ..., or, Independency not Gods ordinance in which all the frontires of the Presbytery ... are defended ... / by John Bastvvick, captain in the Presbyterian army. Bastwick, John, 1593-1654. 1646 (1646) Wing B1072; ESTC R10739 685,011 796

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which_o he_o stiff_o deny_v for_o say_v he_o the_o apostle_n and_o all_o the_o believer_n in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n meet_v together_o with_o one_o accord_n in_o one_o place_n to_o wit_n the_o temple_n and_o in_o solomon_n porch_n and_o break_v bread_n from_o house_n to_o house_n i_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o expression_n and_o see_v if_o there_o be_v not_o only_o a_o flat_a contradiction_n of_o himself_o but_o a_o full_a confirmation_n of_o what_o my_o argument_n prove_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v many_o congregation_n of_o believer_n in_o the_o church_n at_o jerusalem_n which_o he_o peremptory_o deny_v for_o say_v he_o they_o meet_v together_o day_n by_o day_n in_o the_o temple_n that_o be_v one_o place_n and_o in_o solomon_n porch_n that_o be_v a_o other_o place_n and_o they_o break_v bread_n from_o house_n to_o house_n that_o be_v in_o innumerable_a place_n more_o so_o that_o for_o one_o place_n we_o have_v many_o assign_v by_o he_o for_o 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distinguish_v between_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v between_o house_n and_o house_n and_o house_n by_o house_n and_o will_v persuade_v the_o world_n that_o there_o be_v some_o great_a mystery_n or_o at_o least_o some_o vast_a difference_n between_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n whereas_o indeed_o if_o we_o consult_v with_o the_o original_a and_o with_o all_o interpreter_n and_o translation_n we_o shall_v find_v that_o they_o be_v all_o one_o and_o that_o they_o translate_v the_o word_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n after_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o with_o the_o same_o expression_n or_o with_o word_n equivalent_a unto_o they_o that_o they_o do_v the_o plural_a make_v no_o difference_n between_o they_o and_o although_o i_o never_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d house_n by_o house_n or_o in_o every_o house_n be_v the_o same_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 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plural_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d per_fw-la domos_fw-la translate_v the_o singular_a likewise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ●ira_fw-la domos_fw-la render_v the_o word_n both_o in_o the_o singular_a and_o the_o plural_a always_o in_o the_o number_n of_o multitude_n and_o they_o that_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o singular_a domatim_o translate_v the_o plural_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d domatim_fw-la likewise_o as_o they_o that_o will_v consult_v with_o all_o the_o latin_a translation_n upon_o the_o second_o of_o the_o act_n and_o the_o 46._o verse_n and_o the_o 5._o of_o the_o act_n and_o the_o 42._o verse_n where_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n may_v see_v again_o if_o they_o will_v turn_v but_o to_o the_o 20._o chapter_n of_o the_o act_n and_o the_o 20._o verse_n there_o they_o shall_v find_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o plural_a translate_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o singular_a be_v by_o all_o the_o latin_a interpreter_n that_o be_v as_o they_o do_v render_v and_o translate_v the_o word_n in_o the_o singular_a so_o they_o translate_v it_o in_o the_o plural_a make_v no_o difference_n in_o their_o signification_n but_o take_v they_o as_o all_o one_o and_o so_o in_o our_o english_a translation_n act_v the_o 2._o v._o 46._o there_o they_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o house_n to_o house_n and_o in_o the_o 5._o chapter_n verse_n the_o 42._o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o singular_a in_o every_o house_n and_o in_o the_o twenty_o of_o the_o act_n and_o the_o twenty_o verse_n where_o the_o word_n be_v in_o the_o plural_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o render_v it_o there_o from_o house_n to_o house_n as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o singular_a never_o make_v any_o difference_n between_o the_o singular_a and_o the_o plural_a and_o so_o the_o italian_a render_v the_o singular_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o five_o of_o the_o act_n vers_fw-la 4●_n per_fw-la le_fw-fr case_n and_o in_o the_o 20._o of_o the_o act_n v._o 20._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o plural_a he_o translate_v it_o likewise_o per_fw-la le_fw-mi case_n make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o singular_a &_o the_o plural_a as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o and_o the_o same_o i_o may_v show_v out_o of_o all_o the_o interpretation_n now_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o greek_a when_o it_o be_v join_v with_o the_o accusative_a case_n it_o often_o if_o not_o ever_o signify_v in_o or_o through_o and_o be_v join_v with_o a_o word_n of_o the_o singular_a number_n it_o signify_v as_o much_o as_o if_o it_o be_v join_v with_o the_o plural_a as_o we_o may_v see_v it_o in_o the_o 8._o of_o luke_n vers_fw-la the_o 1._o where_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v through_o every_o city_n he_o go_v say_v the_o interpretation_n through_o every_o city_n preach_v or_o he_o preach_v in_o every_o city_n or_o in_o all_o city_n or_o through_o all_o city_n and_o so_o in_o the_o 1._o of_o titus_n where_o saint_n paul_n say_v that_o he_o leave_v titus_n in_o crete_n that_o he_o shall_v ordain_v elder_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v translate_v in_o english_a in_o every_o city_n and_o by_o master_n knollys_n himself_o oppidatim_o city_n by_o city_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o in_o every_o city_n or_o in_o all_o city_n or_o through_o all_o the_o city_n of_o crete_n and_o in_o the_o fourteen_o of_o the_o act_n verse_n 23._o it_o be_v say_v when_o they_o have_v ordain_v they_o elder_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d master_n knollys_n himself_o translate_v the_o singular_a there_o per_fw-la singulas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la in_o
character_n be_v evident_o visible_a and_o apparent_a and_o those_o that_o either_o countenance_n vile_a person_n and_o honour_v not_o such_o as_o fear_v the_o lord_n or_o break_v their_o vow_n promise_n and_o covenant_n with_o either_o god_n or_o man_n they_o in_o god_n repute_n be_v not_o saint_n indeed_o pretend_v they_o what_o they_o will_v but_o be_v wicked_a and_o ungodly_a man_n and_o such_o as_o bring_v down_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o place_n where_o they_o live_v for_o as_o solomon_n say_v by_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o righteous_a the_o city_n be_v save_v so_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o wicked_a it_o be_v overthrow_v prov._n 11._o for_o 11._o wicked_a and_o ungodly_a man_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o ruin_n of_o city_n and_o country_n according_a to_o that_o of_o saint_n paul_n the_o second_o of_o timothy_n chap._n 3._o ver_fw-la 1_o 2_o 3_o 4_o 5._o this_o know_v also_o say_v he_o that_o in_o the_o last_o day_n perilous_a time_n shall_v come_v for_o man_n 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or_o for_o any_o such_o calamity_n the_o lastdaye_n and_o time_n shall_v be_v perilous_a but_o they_o shall_v be_v perilous_a time_n say_v he_o for_o that_o man_n shall_v be_v lover_n of_o themselves_o covenant-breaker_n false_a accuser_n covetous_a etc._n etc._n so_o that_o self-love_n covetousness_n false_a accusation_n of_o their_o brethren_n and_o covenant-breaking_a etc._n etc._n be_v the_o cause_n that_o make_v time_n perilous_a and_o bring_v down_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n upon_o any_o city_n and_o place_n where_o the_o inhabitant_n be_v practiser_n of_o these_o sin_n and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n after_o he_o have_v forewarn_v all_o such_o as_o fear_n god_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o all_o the_o evil_n that_o be_v come_v upon_o the_o world_n command_v all_o the_o true_a saint_n indeed_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o such_o man_n and_o in_o express_a word_n say_v from_o such_o turn_n away_o have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o such_o for_o all_o covenant-breaker_n and_o false_a accuser_n and_o such_o as_o countenance_v vile_a person_n and_o honour_v not_o they_o that_o fear_v the_o lord_n and_o such_o as_o keep_v not_o their_o word_n and_o promise_n with_o neither_o god_n nor_o man_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o peril_n and_o misery_n that_o shall_v come_v upon_o the_o world_n and_o therefore_o all_o such_o be_v not_o saint_n indeed_o but_o aught_o to_o be_v abhor_v and_o avoid_v according_a to_o that_o of_o solomon_n prov._n 4._o for_o 14_o 15._o enter_v not_o say_v he_o into_o the_o path_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o go_v not_o into_o the_o way_n of_o evil_a man_n avoid_v it_o pass_v not_o by_o it_o turn_v from_o it_o and_o pass_v away_o here_o we_o see_v the_o wise_a man_n as_o if_o he_o can_v never_o have_v give_v caution_n enough_o to_o all_o his_o scholar_n by_o many_o reduplication_n of_o his_o word_n give_v all_o the_o people_n of_o god_n a_o strict_a charge_n not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o company_n with_o such_o man_n and_o that_o for_o the_o many_o 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