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A19884 An apologeticall reply to a booke called an ansvver to the unjust complaint of VV.B. Also an answer to Mr. I.D. touching his report of some passages. His allegation of Scriptures against the baptising of some kind of infants. His protestation about the publishing of his wrightings. By Iohn Davenporte BD. Davenport, John, 1597-1670. 1636 (1636) STC 6310; ESTC S119389 275,486 356

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who_o he_o say_v separate_v themselves_o at_o that_o time_n some_o of_o they_o who_o he_o examine_v whether_o they_o have_v advise_v with_o i_o about_o it_o have_v clear_v i_o full_o in_o their_o answer_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v able_a and_o ready_a to_o do_v the_o like_a who_o will_v think_v that_o against_o so_o ample_a testimony_n the_o answerer_n shall_v have_v the_o boldness_n to_o accuse_v i_o so_o unjust_o for_o that_o 2._o his_o accusation_n of_o i_o for_o my_o journey_n out_o of_o the_o city_n at_o that_o time_n be_v as_o injurious_a as_o that_o for_o the_o case_n which_o cause_v my_o travail_n at_o that_o time_n will_v have_v constrain_v i_o thereunto_o at_o any_o other_o time_n as_o well_o as_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o help_n of_o a_o painful_a minister_n who_o be_v very_o