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solemn_o consecrat_v by_o their_o fellow_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o their_o new_a episcopal_a order_n in_o a_o word_n we_o hear_v from_o cassander_n that_o the_o canonist_n and_o theologue_n who_o dispute_v this_o question_n do_v both_o accord_n that_o as_o to_o a_o jus_o divinum_fw-la or_o divine_a right_n there_o be_v no_o difference_n betwixt_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n either_o in_o order_n or_o degree_n and_o so_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v which_o yet_o the_o informer_n himself_o dare_v not_o positive_o assert_v that_o the_o father_n toss_v this_o question_n it_o will_v nothing_o help_v he_o nor_o prejudge_v mr_n durham_n quotation_n which_o speak_v of_o a_o jus_o divinum_fw-la as_o for_o what_o he_o add_v that_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o medina_n may_v hold_v the_o same_o notion_n let_v he_o hear_v how_o bellarmin_n no_o friend_n to_o presbyterian_a government_n represent_v his_o assertion_n the_o cler._n cap_n 15._o michael_n medina_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 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