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and_o 9.26_o and_o 19.9_o 1_o tim._n 5.22_o deu._n 5.32_o 6_o that_o the_o gift_n of_o interpretation_n and_o application_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v a_o sufficient_a and_o lawful_a call_n to_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n which_o doctrine_n be_v both_o false_a and_o anabaptisticall_a contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n heb._n 5.4_o rom_n 12.6_o 7_o 8._o levit._fw-la 22.25_o ezek._n 44.8_o 9_o etc._n etc._n num._n 1.51_o and_o 3.10_o 38_o and_o 16.40_o and_o 18.2_o 3_o 4._o act._n 1.20.26_o and_o 14.23_o and_o 13.2.3_o 7_o that_o the_o church_n may_v yield_v obedience_n unto_o other_o law_n cannon_n and_o tradition_n officer_n and_o office_n than_o god_n have_v prescribe_v in_o his_o conenant_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o gen._n 49.10_o mal._n 6.24_o john_n 10_o 4_o 5._o ren._n 14.4_o and_o 22_o 18_o 19_o heb._n 3_o 1_o &c_n &c_n 8_o that_o the_o church_n may_v read_v other_o man_n word_n upon_o a_o book_n and_o offer_v they_o up_o to_o god_n as_o their_o own_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o public_a assembly_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n esai_n 29.13_o 14._o rom._n 8.26_o 1_o cor._n 14.15_o mat._n 6.6.9_o and_o 15.9_o mar._n 7.7_o ephe._n 4.7_o 8._o 1_o pet._n 2.5_o 9_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o join_v with_o the_o ministry_n of_o dumb_a and_o jdoll_n priest_n and_o to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n at_o their_o hand_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o mal._n 15.14_o and_o 7.19_o and_o 24.24_o 25._o john_n 10.1.5_o num._n 16_o 5_o 9_o 24_o 26_o 39_o 40_o etc._n etc._n 1_o tim_n 6.5.2_o john_n verse_n 6.11_o 10_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o minister_n of_o christ_n to_o cease_v preach_v &_o forsake_v his_o flock_n at_o the_o commandment_n of_o a_o lord_n bishop_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o 1_o cor._n 9.16_o esay_n 62.4_o 6_o 7._o jer._n 48.10_o zach._n 11.17_o john_n 10.11_o 12_o 13._o act_n 4.18_o 19_o 20_o and_o 5.29_o amos_n 7.12_o 13_o 14_o 15._o 2_o tim._n 4.2_o 11_o that_o the_o 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of_o christ_n testament_n which_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v condemn_v by_o luke_n 19.14_o 27._o john_n 15.14_o rom._n 6.16_o luke_n 22.25_o 26._o 1_o pet._n 3.2_o thes_n 2_o 3.4_o john_n 3.35.36_o revel_v 9.3_o and_o 14.9.10.11_o and_o 19.14.15_o 14_o that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o prescript_n liturgy_n and_o set_v form_n of_o service_n in_o the_o church_n frame_v by_o man_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o deut._n 5.8_o esai_n 29.13_o 14._o mat._n 15.9_o and_o 7.6.7_o gal._n 3.15_o john_n 4.24_o rom._n 8.26.27_o ephe._n 4.7.8_o 15_o that_o a_o antichristian_a prelate_n notwithstanding_o his_o dignity_n as_o it_o be_v call_v spiritual_a may_v be_v a_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o obey_v of_o the_o people_n as_o their_o lawful_a governor_n which_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o rom._n 13.1_o etc._n etc._n mat._n 20.25_o 26._o mar._n 10.42_o 43._o luke_n 22.25_o 26._o revel_v 14.9_o 10_o 11._o and_o 17.18_o 16_o that_o man_n may_v give_v the_o title_n of_o christ_n jesus_n 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