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A68832 A briefe vievve of the weake grounds of popery as it was propounded to D. Norrice, priest, by T.V. gent: and returned without answere. Udall, Thomas. 1606 (1606) STC 24508.5; ESTC S119623 62,322 134

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even_o by_o the_o learned_a papist_n themselves_n and_o their_o university_n yet_o do_v they_o allege_v they_o against_o we_o in_o many_o of_o their_o book_n especial_o in_o the_o rheims_n testament_n to_o give_v countenance_n to_o popish_a error_n see_v pag._n 23._o 24._o 25._o 26._o 27._o 28._o 29._o 30._o 31._o 32._o 33._o 10_o that_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o father_n can_v be_v show_v nay_o scarce_o any_o ancient_a father_n that_o all_o controversy_n be_v to_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o pope_n or_o that_o he_o can_v err_v or_o that_o he_o must_v summon_v counsel_n or_o that_o they_o be_v of_o no_o authority_n unless_o they_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n and_o yet_o be_v these_o doctrine_n hold_v catholic_a by_o the_o papist_n and_o repute_v the_o chief_a pillar_n of_o popery_n see_v pag._n 75._o 11_o that_o all_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v bring_v by_o the_o papist_n either_o to_o prove_v the_o pope_n prerogative_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n or_o that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v be_v by_o the_o father_n write_v purposely_o upon_o the_o same_o place_n expound_v according_a to_o the_o protestant_n sense_n give_v and_o contrary_a to_o the_o sense_n which_o the_o papist_n give_v so_o far_o be_v the_o papist_n from_o prove_v the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n in_o expound_v these_o scripture_n which_o they_o common_o object_v against_o we_o as_o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o or_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v send_v to_o the_o church_n to_o lead_v it_o into_o all_o truth_n or_o to_o thou_o will_v i_o give_v the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n or_o the_o church_n be_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n or_o tell_v the_o church_n or_o if_o he_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a or_o as_o a_o publican_n or_o 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