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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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confirm_v or_o approve_a counsel_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o sophistical_a proceed_n to_o impugn_v one_o verity_n with_o another_o verity_n fateor_fw-la equidem_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi universalem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la representare_fw-la sed_fw-la dum_fw-la urge_v ecclesiam_fw-la errare_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la sensu_fw-la qui_fw-la à_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la accipitur_fw-la intelligimus_fw-la enim_fw-la totam_fw-la simul_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la fideles_fw-la omnes_fw-la non_fw-la errare_fw-la at_o nihil_fw-la obstat_fw-la cur_n maior_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la pars_fw-la non_fw-la erret_fw-la baro_n p._n 381._o ex_fw-la cano._n loc_fw-la 5._o c._n 5._o canus_n be_v pretend_v to_o contradict_v we_o though_o he_o be_v know_v to_o maintain_v the_o counsel_n infallibility_n such_o as_o we_o speak_v of_o add_v withal_o that_o the_o contrary_n be_v heretical_a in_o the_o four_o chapter_n of_o his_o five_o book_n where_o 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the_o same_o manner_n he_o do_v answer_v to_o a_o second_o argument_n of_o assistance_n make_v for_o the_o same_o purpose_n ibidem_fw-la purpose_n ibidem_fw-la even_o as_o say_v he_o that_o which_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o same_o also_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o not_o present_o what_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v judge_v the_o same_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o if_o anything_o be_v judge_v by_o all_o the_o bishop_n it_o be_v very_o judge_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n but_o not_o present_o if_o many_o father_n of_o the_o council_n agree_v into_o one_o sentence_n shall_v it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n unless_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n 3._o by_o the_o way_n i_o observe_v here_o two_o thing_n one_o be_v that_o if_o a_o author_n interpret_v those_o word_n ecclesia_fw-la errare_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la the_o church_n can_v err_v of_o 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certum_fw-la certùm_fw-la autem_fw-la esset_fw-la si_fw-la à_fw-la summo_fw-la pontificeconfirmaretur_fw-la nec_fw-la enim_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la quemad_a modumpaulò_fw-la antè_fw-la docuimus_fw-la sententiam_fw-la concilij_fw-la omnes_fw-la simul_fw-la patres_fw-la approbare_fw-la canus_n li._n 5._o c._n 5_o q._n ●_o man_n who_o you_o cite_v for_o the_o former_a part_n do_v also_o maintain_v the_o late_a and_o the_o manner_n of_o argue_v be_v indeed_o absurd_a because_o it_o will_v impugn_v one_o truth_n by_o another_o as_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v the_o whole_a gospel_n of_o s._n john_n be_v the_o undoubted_a word_n of_o god_n therefore_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o it_o be_v not_o and_o be_v it_o admit_v it_o will_v prove_v as_o before_o i_o say_v on_o the_o same_o occasion_n that_o every_o apostle_n yea_o all_o the_o apostle_n and_o father_n may_v have_v consent_v in_o a_o gross_a yea_o and_o in_o the_o most_o fundamental_a error_n because_o they_o be_v not_o the_o whole_a and_o 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quilibet_fw-la de_fw-la quocunque_fw-la dogmate_fw-it ad_fw-la fidem_fw-la siuè_fw-fr necessariò_fw-la sive_fw-la non_fw-la necessariò_fw-la pertinente_fw-la pronunciare_fw-la potuisset_fw-la idquetanta_fw-la certitudine_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la pastor_n essent_fw-la fidelissimi_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la magistri_fw-la peritissimi_fw-la omniaque_fw-la etiam_fw-la subtilissima_fw-la circa_fw-la fidei_fw-la mysteria_fw-la penerarent_fw-la staeplet_n the_o princip_n fidei_fw-la doctrinal_a li._n 8._o c._n 15._o quod_fw-la autem_fw-la de_fw-la apostolis_n modo_fw-la diximus_fw-la
ambagibus_fw-la cedere_fw-la ipsaque_fw-la plenaria_fw-la saepe_fw-la priora_fw-la posterioribus_fw-la emendari_fw-la cùm_fw-la aliquo_fw-la experimento_fw-la rerum_fw-la aperitur_fw-la quod_fw-la clausum_fw-la erat_fw-la &_o cogno_fw-it cit●r_fw-it quod_fw-la latebat_fw-la baro._n p._n 339._o ex_fw-la aug._n 5._o in_o the_o five_o place_n be_v object_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n those_o word_n provincial_a counsel_n without_o all_o tergiversation_n give_v place_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o general_a counsel_n assemble_v out_o of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o many_o time_n the_o precedent_n plenary_a or_o general_a counsel_n be_v mend_v by_o the_o follow_a plenary_a counsel_n when_o by_o some_o experiment_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v open_v which_o be_v shut_v and_o that_o know_a which_o be_v unknown_a for_o the_o understanding_n of_o which_o word_n it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v first_o that_o s._n augustine_n be_v there_o dispute_v with_o the_o donatist_n who_o among_o other_o 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scripture_n or_o of_o manifest_a reason_n such_o as_o a_o understanding_n man_n consider_v can_v but_o assent_v unto_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o the_o pastor_n in_o a_o council_n be_v open_o insufficient_a because_o it_o do_v suppose_v and_o without_o yea_o against_o all_o reason_n that_o they_o the_o pastor_n with_o all_o their_o exercise_n in_o divinity_n and_o diligent_a inquisition_n look_v into_o and_o consider_v the_o word_n of_o scripture_n compare_v text_n together_o examine_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n peruse_v former_a counsel_n with_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n and_o other_o monument_n of_o antiquity_n and_o assist_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n their_o interior_a master_n be_v not_o as_o able_a as_o their_o adversary_n to_o conceive_v plain_a scripture_n 45._o innumerabiles_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la videntes_fw-la non_fw-la solùm_fw-la ●actant_fw-la sed_fw-la à_fw-la christo_fw-la illuminatos_fw-la videri_fw-la volunt_fw-la sunt_fw-la 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superare_fw-la omnium_fw-la enim_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la quasi_fw-la regularis_fw-la est_fw-la ista_fw-la temeritas_fw-la sed_fw-la ille_fw-la fidei_fw-la imperator_fw-la clementissimus_fw-la &_o per_fw-la conventus_fw-la celeberrimos_fw-la populorum_fw-la atque_fw-la gentium_fw-la sedesque_fw-la ipsas_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la arce_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la munivit_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o per_fw-la pauciores_fw-la piè_fw-la doctos_fw-la &_o verè_fw-la spirituales_fw-la viros_fw-la copiosissimis_fw-la apparatibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la invictissimae_fw-la rationis_fw-la armavit_fw-la s._n aug._n epist_n ad_fw-la diosc_n 56._o reason_n against_o the_o church_n to_o the_o end_n they_o may_v seem_v to_o bring_v something_o great_a for_o to_o oppress_v or_o overcome_v her_o authority_n as_o s._n augustine_n well_o observe_v long_o ago_o and_o by_o the_o like_a stratagem_n do_v the_o pagan_n heeretefore_o strive_v to_o withdraw_v man_n whole_o from_o the_o creed_n by_o show_v the_o contrary_a 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augugustine_n he_o will_v undertake_v for_o we_o to_o satisfy_v that_o you_o bring_v from_o optatus_n and_o where_o he_o look_v about_o for_o a_o judge_n to_o decide_v the_o controversy_n move_v by_o the_o donatist_n this_o great_a doctor_n do_v answer_v yea_o the_o 32_o the_o s._n a●g_n contra_fw-la donati●tas_fw-la passim_fw-la specialiter_fw-la vide_fw-la li._n 2._o de_fw-fr bapt_n c._n 7_o li_n 5._o c._n 23._o &_o li._n 1._o co●t_n cresc_n c._n 31._o &_o 32_o whole_a catholic_a world_n do_v agree_v that_o the_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v define_v in_o council_n and_o that_o not_o by_o clear_a scripture_n there_o be_v none_o but_o by_o tradition_n by_o the_o testament_n yes_o not_o the_o write_v but_o the_o nuncupative_a by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 1._o ghost_n s_o aug_n suprà_fw-la inter_fw-la citat_fw-la ex_fw-la ock_n lit_fw-fr 1._o a_o judge_n from_o heaven_n but_o speak_v b_o in_o a_o council_n the_o whole_a world_n do_v judge_v that_o this_o very_a controversy_n whereof_o optatus_n speak_v be_v to_o be_v determine_v so_o and_z accord_o it_o be_v so_o determine_v and_o end_v neither_o do_v optatus_n deny_v that_o which_o all_o catholic_n when_o saint_n augustine_n write_v grant_v and_o he_o himself_o yield_v as_o much_o of_o the_o 4._o the_o serpit_fw-la corum_fw-la sermo_fw-la u●lut_fw-la cancer_n dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la haereticis_fw-la quorum_fw-la caeperat_v esse_fw-la illis_fw-la temporibus_fw-la vitiosa_fw-la doctrina_fw-la etc._n etc._n dictum_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o de_fw-la arrio_fw-la cvius_fw-la doctrina_fw-la nisi_fw-la nicaeno_n concilio_n à_fw-la 318._o episcopis_fw-la dissiparetur_fw-la pectora_fw-la multorum_fw-la sicut_fw-la cancer_n intraverat_fw-la optat._v milleu_n li._n 4._o nicene_n council_n of_o who_o authority_n we_o shall_v present_o hear_v more_o from_o s._n anathasius_fw-la who_o be_v in_o it_o that_o the_o church_n which_o have_v promise_n of_o assistance_n or_o the_o pastor_n all_o assemble_v in_o a_o council_n those_o 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synodi_fw-la desideratur_fw-la supersunt_fw-la acta_fw-la patrum_fw-la nam_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la parte_fw-la negligentes_fw-la fuere_fw-la qui_fw-la niceae_n convenerunt_fw-la sed_fw-la ita_fw-la accuratè_fw-la scripserunt_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la sinceriter_fw-la eorum_fw-la scripta_fw-la legate_n facilè_fw-la reminiscatur_fw-la eius_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la religionis_fw-la quae_fw-la à_fw-la sacris_fw-la literis_fw-la annunciatur_fw-la baro._n p._n 327._o ex_fw-la athanasio_fw-la s._n athanasius_n be_v at_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a where_o the_o arian_n heresy_n be_v anathematise_v and_o the_o catholic_a faith_n establish_v yet_o he_o be_v also_o bring_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o all_o general_a counsel_n first_o because_o he_o tell_v the_o arian_n who_o will_v not_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o that_o council_n which_o be_v ecumenical_a and_o yet_o cry_v out_o for_o counsel_n that_o in_o vain_a they_o run_v about_o the_o world_n pretend_v they_o 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saint_n 〈◊〉_d more_o powerful_a than_o scripture_n ●oth_v not_o prejudice_n infallibility_n both_o ●ay_v have_v it_o and_o yet_o one_o be_v more_o powerful_a and_o this_o suppose_a visit●hat_o ●hat_z both_o scripture_n and_o the_o coun●ell_n be_v infallible_a but_o the_o power_n of_o cripture_n more_o the_o discourse_n of_o s._n athanasius_n be_v convince_a he_o tha●_n will_v not_o submit_v his_o judgement_n to_o tha●_n authority_n which_o be_v most_o powerful_a do_v in_o vain_a pretend_v he_o will_v be_v rule_v by_o the_o less_o he_o do_v easy_o contemn_v a_o council_n who_o contemne●_n the_o scripture_n propose_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o the_o arian_n do_v who_o contradict_v open_a scripture_n and_o all_o antiquity_n neither_o do_v this_o make_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o decision_n of_o controversy_n by_o counsel_n for_o though_o the_o way_n of_o counsel_n be_v a_o certain_a way_n to_o determine_v what_o we_o must_v believe_v yet_o may_v there_o be_v another_o way_n to_o find_v it_o out_o and_o that_o certain_a too_o and_o doubtless_o he_o that_o see_v in_o scripture_n that_o which_o he_o know_v the_o whole_a symbolical_a church_n that_o which_o hold_v out_o the_o book_n wherein_o ●he_n read_v it_o do_v believe_v be_v more_o powerfullie_o move_v to_o give_v assent_n than_o he_o that_o hear_v a_o council_n only_o and_o our_o assent_n be_v more_o prove_v when_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n all_o propose_v the_o same_o then_o when_o one_o alone_o do_v avouch_v it_o though_o one_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n by_o himself_o be_v sufficient_a and_o infallible_a §._o xii_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n will_v have_v church-authoritie_n rely_v upon_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a how_o a_o man_n be_v to_o carry_v himself_o when_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v question_v the_o way_n to_o find_v the_o catholic_a sense_n general_n counsel_n infallible_a in_o their_o decree_n and_o those_o be_v heretic_n that_o contradict_v and_o 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