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y_fw-mi â—_o rest_n may_v help_v e_z &_o again_o 9_o cypr._n lib._n 3._o epi._n 13._o lib._n 4._o epi._n 9_o the_o church_n be_v preserve_v in_o unity_n by_o y_z e_z consent_n of_o bishope_n agre_v in_o one_o and_o to_o this_o end_n s._n hiecome_n say_v as_o be_v before_o allege_v noverint_fw-la episcopi_n etc._n etc._n let_v bishopes_n under_o stand_n 1._o in_o epi._n ad_fw-la titum_fw-la cap._n 1._o that_o they_o ought_v to_o rule_v y_z e_o church_n as_o all_o in_o one_o against_o unity_n immediate_o upon_o y_o it_o forsay_v word_n follow_v a_o common_a place_n against_o unity_n as_o if_o m._n jewel_n will_v plain_o protest_v that_o when_o it_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o his_o side_n than_o it_o shall_v be_v allow_v and_o praise_v and_o y_z t_z when_o the_o adversary_n will_v turn_v it_o to_o his_o purpose_n then_o shall_v it_o be_v little_a or_o nothing_o worth_a as_o in_o example_n luciferianos_fw-la jew._n 260_o hieron_n contra_fw-la luciferianos_fw-la s._n hierome_n say_v 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