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ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la cum_fw-la secum_fw-la paulus_n disceptaret_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n l_o 2_o con_v donat._n c._n 1._o apostolum_n petrum_fw-la in_fw-la quo_fw-la primatus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la tam_fw-la excellenti_fw-la gratia_fw-la praeeminet_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n hortato_n esse_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la matricem_n &_o radicem_fw-la agnoscerent_fw-la &_o tenerent_fw-la s._n cyp._n l._n 4._o ep._n 8._o vide_fw-la eundem_fw-la l._n 1._o ep_v 3._o &_o l._n 4._o ep_n 9_o rest_n praeponatur_fw-la uni_fw-la tamen_fw-la datum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praeemineret_fw-la s._n leo._n ep_v 84._o s._n leo_n serm_n 3._o de_fw-fr annivers_n ass_n die_v qui_fw-la praeponatur_fw-la which_o do_v they_o be_v not_o in_o all_z respect_n equal_a his_o word_n be_v among_o the_o most_o bless_a apostle_n in_o similitude_n of_o honour_n be_v a_o certain_a distinction_n of_o power_n and_o whereas_o the_o election_n of_o all_o be_v equal_a to_o one_o be_v grant_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v eminent_a above_o
their_o pastor_n he_o redeem_v they_o not_o for_o he_o give_v his_o life_n for_o his_o sheep_n if_o they_o be_v our_o saviour_n sheep_n they_o be_v also_o commend_v to_o saint_n peter_n 10._o 10._o 10._o for_o our_o saviour_n make_v he_o pastor_n of_o his_o sheep_n without_o except_v any_o tr_fw-la by_o this_o you_o may_v understand_v a_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n object_v some_o time_n si_fw-mi hoc_fw-la petro_n tantum_fw-la etc._n etc._n tract_n 50._o in_o joan_n cvius_fw-la eccesiae_n petrus_n apostolus_fw-la propter_fw-la apostolatus_fw-la svi_fw-la primatum_fw-la gerebat_fw-la figurata_fw-la generalitate_fw-la personam_fw-la idem_fw-la aug._n in_o io._n tr_fw-la 6._o your_o exception_n here_o be_v that_o what_o be_v speak_v to_o peter_n be_v speak_v to_o all_o and_o that_o peter_n do_v represent_v the_o church_n when_o he_o take_v authority_n from_o jesus_n christ_n answer_n if_o you_o mean_v it_o be_v in_o proportion_n and_o secondarilie_o speak_v to_o all_o the_o rest_n 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primitive_a church_n and_o exercise_v by_o the_o pope_n successor_n to_o saint_n peter_n before_o phocas_n ever_o appear_v in_o this_o world_n it_o be_v true_a that_o emperor_n may_v second_v what_o our_o saviour_n have_v ordain_v before_o to_o the_o end_n the_o imperial_a decree_n thus_o wait_v on_o the_o divine_a institution_n man_n respect_v the_o temporal_a power_n may_v stand_v in_o fear_n to_o transgress_v who_o will_v otherwise_o prevaricate_v notwithstanding_o the_o divine_a institution_n so_o many_o forbear_v steal_v for_o fear_n of_o temporal_a law_n who_o god_n eternal_a law_n will_v not_o move_v to_o forbear_v in_o this_o kind_n phocas_n decree_v that_o the_o pope_n shall_v be_v account_v head_n though_o the_o title_n be_v due_a to_o he_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o high_a institution_n and_o he_o style_v head_n of_o bishop_n before_o this_o as_o you_o may_v find_v in_o the_o four_o general_a ibid._n general_a quibus_fw-la tu_fw-la quidem_fw-la sicut_fw-la membris_fw-la caput_fw-la praeeras_fw-la etc._n etc._n conc._n chalc._n ad_fw-la leonem_fw-la rogamus_fw-la &_o tuis_fw-la decretis_fw-la nostrum_fw-la honora_fw-la in_o iudicium_fw-la &_o sicut_fw-la nos_fw-la capiti_fw-la in_o bonis_fw-la adiecimus_fw-la consonantiam_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o summitas_fw-la tua_fw-la filijs_fw-la quod_fw-la decet_fw-la adimpleat_fw-la ibid._n council_n neither_o do_v the_o title_n of_o ecumenical_a or_o universal_a bishop_n in_o the_o sense_n we_o take_v it_o any_o way_n derogate_v unto_o the_o rest_n their_o title_n of_o bishop_n as_o philosopher_n give_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a cause_n to_o a_o cause_n supereminent_a as_o to_o the_o sun_n or_o to_o god_n hereby_o take_v not_o away_o the_o name_n of_o cause_n from_o particular_a in_o this_o low_a world_n as_o from_o horse_n fire_n man_n but_o yet_o if_o you_o take_v universal_a in_o a_o other_o sense_n not_o for_o that_o which_o be_v eminent_a over_o many_o particular_n but_o for_o that_o which_o so_o have_v all_o within_o itself_o that_o none_o answer_v to_o the_o name_n be_v without_o it_o as_o antichrist_n as_o si_fw-mi unus_fw-la patriarcha_fw-la universalis_fw-la dicitur_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la nomen_fw-la caeteris_fw-la derogatur_fw-la s_o greg._n l._n 4._o ep_n 36._o put_v that_o of_o cause_n in_o the_o same_o form_n si_fw-mi una_fw-la causa_fw-la universalis_fw-la dicitur_fw-la causarum_fw-la nomen_fw-la caeteris_fw-la derogatur_fw-la and_o tell_v i_o now_o in_o what_o sense_n the_o proposition_n be_v true_a si_fw-mi universalem_fw-la i_o papam_fw-la vestra_fw-la sanctitas_fw-la dicit_fw-la negate_fw-la se_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la i_o fatetur_fw-la universum_fw-la â—_o greg._n l._n 7._o ep_n 36._o indic_n 1._o ad_fw-la eulog_fw-la alex_n he_o that_o in_o this_o sense_n shall_v arrogate_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n be_v a_o fore_a runner_n of_o antichrist_n saint_n gregory_n do_v understand_v it_o so_o neither_o be_v the_o sun_n a_o universal_a cause_n 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