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A86561 Diatribē peri paido-baptismoū, or, A consideration of infant baptism: wherein the grounds of it are laid down, and the validity of them discussed, and many things of Mr Tombes about it scanned and answered. Propounded to the consideration of the Church of God, and judgment of the truly religious and understanding therein. Together with a digression, in answer to Mr Kendall; from pag. 143. to the end. By J.H. an unworthy servant of Jesus Christ, and preacher of the Gospel to the congregation at Lin Alhallows. Horn, John, 1614-1676. 1654 (1654) Wing H2798; Thomason E729_3; ESTC R17948 148,371 168

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such_o receipt_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o mat._n 3.11_o act_n 2.38_o 39_o &_o 8.12_o 13_o 16._o yea_o 9_o i_o find_v that_o divers_a be_v convert_v have_v their_o whole_a family_n baptize_v with_o they_o as_o act_n 16.31_o 33._o &_o 1_o cor._n 1.16_o and_o some_o the_o faith_n of_o who_o family_n before_o baptism_n there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o as_o act_n 16.14_o 15._o but_o now_o happy_o it_o will_v be_v say_v that_o here_o be_v enough_o say_v against_o infant-baptism_n because_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o no_o scripture_n express_o say_v that_o infant_n be_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v which_o be_v indeed_o the_o great_a pillar_n upon_o which_o antipedobaptism_n lean_v nor_o matter_n they_o that_fw-mi no_o scripture_n say_v they_o be_v not_o or_o ought_v not_o for_o what_o be_v not_o write_v say_v they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v believe_v or_o practise_v concern_v which_o i_o propound_v to_o further_a consideration_n 1._o whether_o that_o maxim_n strike_v not_o 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