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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86561	Diatribē peri paido-baptismoū, or, A consideration of infant baptism: wherein the grounds of it are laid down, and the validity of them discussed, and many things of Mr Tombes about it scanned and answered. Propounded to the consideration of the Church of God, and judgment of the truly religious and understanding therein. Together with a digression, in answer to Mr Kendall; from pag. 143. to the end. By J.H. an unworthy servant of Jesus Christ, and preacher of the Gospel to the congregation at Lin Alhallows.	Horn, John, 1614-1676.	1654 (1654)	Wing H2798; Thomason E729_3; ESTC R17948	148,371	168

such receit of the Holy Ghost as Mat. 3.11 Acts 2.38 39. 8.12 13 16. Yea 9. I find that divers being converted had their whole families baptized with them as Acts 16.31 33. 1 Cor. 1.16 And some the faith of whose family before Baptism there is not the least mention of as Acts 16.14 15. But now happily it will be said That here is enough said against Infant-baptism because it 's granted that no Scripture expresly says that Infants were or ought to be baptized which is indeed the great pillar upon which Antipedobaptism leaneth nor matter they that no Scripture sayes they were not or ought not For what is not written say they is not to be believed or practised Concerning which I propound to further consideration 1. Whether that Maxime strikes not down one main pillar of theirs For if what is not written is not to be believed then it s not to be believed that all that were baptized were capable of faith or rather actually professed it before Baptism For it s not written that either all in the Jaylours house or that any in Lydia's house beside her self profest it before Baptism Acts 16.15.33 the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 believed in ver 34. is of the singular Number and agrees with the Jaylor so is the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 rejoyced and word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 house wholly is such as concludes not all in the house actually either in believing or rejoycing it may signifie as well in or concerning all his house as with them all as companions in those actings The Prophet calls the women with their sucking Infants to assemble solemnly to humble themselves before the Lord Joel 2.12 14 15. And Nineveh men beasts are said to cry to God and put on sackcloth and yet its certain that neither the beasts nor Infants were active in those repentings solemn humiliations And as for Lydia's house not a word of any of them hearing the word or believing before Baptism And the like we might say of the houshold of Stephanas 1 Cor. 1.16 Therefore if nothing is to be believed that the word is silent in why press they upon men to believe that all that were baptized did profess faith and repentance first seeing it 's more then can be proved 2. It 's to be examined whether it be true and right or not that we are to believe or do nothing but what we have some express Command of Christ or example of the Apostles in terminis to warrant us in I suppose it s not every way currant for by that rule it s not lawful for a man that is a Christian to take upon him the Office of a Magistrate or Civil government over Christian people For neither hath Christ not any of his Apostles in express terms commanded it nor did any of the Apostles practise it The like we might say for keeping the first day of the week or any one set day for a Sabbath for translating the Scriptures into our English tongue and for womens partaking of the Supper though a thing generally allowed of even by the Antipedobaptists If a man of a contentious spirit lifted he might make as great stirs about it to the disturbance of the Church as is made about Infant-baptism for there is neither express Command of Christ or practise of the Apostles or Churches in their times in which there is express mention of womens participation of it in all the Scriptures no more then for Infant Baptism The institution of the Supper was at the Passover whereof neither is there any where express mention that any woman ever did eat with the twelve Apostles or Disciples who are numbred up and named Mat. 10. and its evident enough they were all men and it was to them that he sayd Take eat c. and drink ye all of this and do ye this as oft as ye eat it c. in remembrance of me If any shall say that that all was a representative of the whol Church he may happily say true but more then by any express Scripture he can prove I know no one expression in Scripture that says either let women participate of it or that women did and that 's as much as is mainly urged against Infant Baptism there were its true three Thousand converted in one day and then they continued in breaking of bread Acts. 2. but that any of them were women is no more exprest then that when it s said all the people were bapeized there were some Infants amongst them in the fourth of the Acts. vers 4. where the number of the men is said to be five Thousand which is conceived to be the number of them in general that were converted and not only of those that were converted at Peters second Sermon there mentioned the word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 males men of the Masculine sex We find again Acts. 20.5.6 that the Disciples came together to break bread but that there were any women amongst them is not exprest the word is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the Masculine gender too whereas the word for a woman Disciple is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Acts. 9.36 and though its true that we have a Rule that the less worthy gender is comprehended in the more worthy yet that neither proves that where ever the Masculine is used the Feminine too is comprehended for that 's evidently false as might be by hundred of places shewed now that it s so there unless it were first prooved that there were some of that less worthy gender at that meeting I know again that the Apostle bids that a man should examin himself and so eate and drink in that Supper and the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is utriusque sexus may be applied and often is to men and women both yet there is no express mention of women and forasmuch as it s often used of men only without inclusion of women as in John 3.1 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 There was a man named Nicodemus 1 Tim. 2.5 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the man Christ Jesus So in Mat. 19.5 Mar. 10 7. and Ephes 5.31 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a man shall leave father and mother and shall be joyned to his own wife So Ioh. 7.22 On the Sabath day ye circumcise 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a man surely women were neither circumcised nor had wives See the like in Heb. 5.1 every high Preist is taken 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from amongst men Heb. 7 8. there they that are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men take tithes and ver 28. The law made 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 men priests In all which places it is evident that men signifies men of the male kind only now seeing it is so I say any man that would stand as stifly against this as some do against Infant baptism might puzzle his Antagonist to prove that it is there to be taken for men and women

the Apostles practised in baptizing we may lawfully But they baptized believers with their housholds without exception of any because children that we read of therefore so may we 3. If the Kingdom of Heaven signifying or including the Church-state is not to be denyed to little children then neither is Baptism But the Kingdom of Heaven including the Church-state is not to be denyed them because of such it is therefore not Baptism 4. If the Infants of parents that are the branches of the stock of Abraham be not broken off from that stock until or unless they come to renounce that faith and profession of his or in his family then they are till then to be acknowledged as holy and as branches and not deprived of the badge of that acknowledgement that is Baptism But the Infants of such Parents are not broken off till or unless they come to renounce that faith and profession Ergo 5. If the promise of God appertains to children with their parents and the blessing of Christ belong to whole families except in case of wilful rejection and such right of it to them be ground of their coming to and receiving Baptism then are the children to be baptized with their parents But so it is as we have seen Ergo 6. If children have need of entering into the Kingdom of God for his blessing and the way of entering be by Baptism then need and ought they to be baptized but the promises are true as we have seen Ergo c. So then he that will implead and cry out against Infant-Baptism must prove 1. That children are not included in all the Nations or Gentiles to be discipled by baptizing them or that they cannot so be discipled And 2. That the Apostles baptized not such housholds as in which were Infants or in case they did they yet left out the Infants in them And 3. That when our Saviour saith Of such is the Kingdom of Heaven the word such signifies not such in kind or the Kingdom of Heaven as there mentioned includeth not its outward Regiment or that that may be theirs and they admitted to it and come to Christ in it and yet not be baptized And 4. That the Infants of believers or of persons not broken from the stock of Abraham are unbranched till actual believers or may not have the outward Baptism and be acknowledged members of the Church though not unbranched I say these and the like things are needful to be proved which I conceive a very hard task for him that shall reject Infants from Baptism There are I confess yet some other Objections against it as that 1. It occasions great disorder and confusion in the Church of God filling it with dead unprofitable members and profane persons That 2. There is no great Antiquity for it or not such as is pretended 3. That however the form that is now used viz. of not plunging into but onely washing or sprinkling with water cannot be allowed to have the essential form of right Baptism in it To all which I shall say a word or two particularly and so conclude 1. It s said Infant-Baptism brings in a swarm of ignorant and profane persons that have nothing but the name of Christians To which I answer 1. That it cannot be denied indeed that many evil men are in the Church of God as Matth. 13. Tares as well as wheat many that do iniquity good and bad are in the net Yea and this is to me an Argument of the vanity of those that go up and down to rebaptize and gather into themselves thereby as if they were not in the Church or Kingdom of Christ till discipled by their Baptism when as they may be in the Kingdom and Church of Christ though workers of iniquity in it The Gentiles are within the outward Court and it s given to them and it s a vain thing for men to say it s not the outward Court of Gods Temple because they be Gentile-multitudes that be in it Nor may any say the Kingdom spoken of in Matth. 13.41 is the Kingdom of Providence because the field is said to be in the world For then should they be gathered out of his providential Government which they cannot be for even hell it self is under the Kingdom of Power and Providence which ruleth over all The world indeed is the field but the field is not the Kingdom the Kingdom is in the field or world but it s not the world It s the Church-state in which they are and in which they offend and do iniquity and from thence they shall be gathered they need not then another Baptism of water to bring them into the Kingdom or Church-state in its outward Court or external form for they are in it already But 2. The reason of mens being such bad members in it is not Infants-baptism the Infants I am sure are least in the fault or their being baptized If it were yet we see there began to be such in the Apostles time and therefore if Infant baptism be the cause that was then too there were then divers that had not the knowledg of God 1 Cor. 3.1.2 and 15.34 James 2.17 2 Tim. 3.5 1 Tim. 6.4 5 6 and that judged and walked carnally dead Christians that had a form but not the power of godliness men of corrupt minds reprobate concerning the faith contentious envious brangling persons some that would be drunk in their very solemn meetings And the further the stream runs from the fountain the more mud and corruption it contracts but the truth is 1 Cor. 11.21 the cause of this dissoluteness in the Church is rather mens sleeping that is their carelesness in attending to Doctrine and Discipline Parents have been neglective of training up their children in the Nurture of the Lord and Church-censure Admonition and Excommunication have been laid aside or abused otherwise the Church had not come to this corruption Not the admission of children then by Baptism but want of carefulness in members of elder years for disciplinating their children and of the Church for warning watching over and casting out have been the true causes of so much rubbish coming in 3. This might be retorted upon the Antipedobaptists the evil consequences and fruits that frequently follow upon it Not to mention the business of Munster too much talked of our own Country affords too much of the sad consequences that have followed in many upon their rejecting their former and betaking themselves to another Baptism as their growing to slight their brethren though gracious and formerly so approved their falling off from Ordinances yea from Christ himself and turning some of them to be little less then Atheists but for the fuller opening and speaking to these sad things I refer the Reader to a Book upon this subject lately set out by my godly Brother T. M. Surely John intimates that into the floor of Christ by outward Baptism there would enter chaff as well as