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A12940 A counterblast to M. Hornes vayne blaste against M. Fekenham Wherein is set forthe: a ful reply to M. Hornes Answer, and to euery part therof made, against the declaration of my L. Abbat of Westminster, M. Fekenham, touching, the Othe of the Supremacy. By perusing vvhereof shall appeare, besides the holy Scriptures, as it vvere a chronicle of the continual practise of Christes Churche in al ages and countries, fro[m] the time of Constantin the Great, vntil our daies: prouing the popes and bishops supremacy in ecclesiastical causes: and disprouing the princes supremacy in the same causes. By Thomas Stapleton student in diuinitie. Stapleton, Thomas, 1535-1598.; Horne, Robert, 1519?-1580. Answeare made by Rob. Bishoppe of Wynchester, to a booke entituled, The declaration of suche scruples, and staies of conscience, touchinge the Othe of the Supremacy, as M. John Fekenham, by wrytinge did deliver unto the L. Bishop of Winchester.; Harpsfield, Nicholas, 1519-1575. 1567 (1567) STC 23231; ESTC S117788 838,389 1,136

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quid_fw-la sit_fw-la ara_fw-la quid_fw-la sit_fw-la victima_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la m._n horn._n deny_v the_o sacrifice_n make_v a_o plain_a way_n for_o antichriste_n daniel_n 12._o quum_fw-la ablatum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la iuge_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la aug._n the_o civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 20._o ca._n 23._o &_o 29._o prosper_n de_fw-fr divinis_fw-la pro_fw-la niss_fw-la &_o predict_v dimid_n temp_n cap._n 13._o hier._n in_o dict_z cap._n 12._o primus_fw-la in_o apoc_n li._n 3._o cap._n 11._o greg._n l_o 32._o in_o job._n 14._o an_fw-mi answer_v to_o m._n horn_n for_o m._n fekenhans_n translate_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pascere_fw-la vel_fw-la regere_fw-la 2._o reg._n 5._o t●_n pasces_fw-la ●opulum_fw-la meum_fw-la israel_n &_o iveris_fw-la dux_fw-la super_fw-la israeel_n cui_fw-la precept_n ut_fw-la pasceret_fw-la populum_fw-la meum_fw-la ca._n 7._o psalm_n 77_o pavit_fw-la eos_fw-la in_o innocentia_fw-la cordis_fw-la svi_fw-la so_o do_v also_o the_o english_a 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