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burn_a nor_o a_o expelling_a out_o of_o the_o country_n and_o coast_n but_o the_o dreadful_a cut_v off_o from_o the_o visible_a head_n and_o body_n christ_n jesus_n and_o his_o church_n spiritual_a cut_n off_o by_o excommunication_n defender_n all_o this_o &_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o in_o this_o chapter_n i_o willing_o consent_v and_o subscribe_v unto_o nor_o do_v this_o touch_n any_o conclusion_n of_o i_o at_o all_o much_o less_o discuss_v or_o shake_v it_o for_o though_o i_o say_v indeed_o that_o for_o a_o erroneous_a and_o blind_a conscience_n even_o in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o till_o after_o admonition_n once_o or_o twice_o according_a to_o tit._n 3.10.11_o yet_o in_o allege_v that_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o conclusion_n i_o intend_v no_o other_o persecution_n but_o the_o church_n prosecution_n against_o such_o a_o heretic_n by_o excommunication_n no_o syllable_n in_o my_o conclusion_n look_v at_o more_o if_o it_o be_v say_v but_o excommunication_n or_o any_o other_o church-prosecution_n can_v fit_o be_v call_v persecution_n yes_o very_o excommunication_n be_v a_o persecution_n and_o a_o lawful_a persecution_n if_o the_o cause_n be_v just_a offence_n as_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v say_v to_o persecute_v the_o wicked_a psalm_n 35.6_o but_o the_o excommunication_n be_v a_o cruel_a and_o bitter_a persecution_n if_o it_o be_v without_o just_a cause_n and_o due_a order_n yea_o and_o the_o more_o grievous_a persecution_n by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o grievous_a it_o be_v to_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n then_o to_o be_v banish_v from_o a_o civil_a society_n sure_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n jesus_n account_v it_o a_o persecution_n to_o his_o disciple_n to_o be_v deliver_v up_o unto_o the_o synagogue_n and_o to_o be_v cast_v forth_o out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n luk._n 21.12_o with_o joh._n 16.2_o chap._n 16._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o sixteenth_o chapter_n touch_v to_o leration_n in_o point_n of_o less_o moment_n discusser_n for_o a_o three_o position_n or_o conclusion_n the_o answerer_n give_v this_o that_o in_o thing_n of_o less_o moment_n whether_o point_v of_o doctrine_n or_o worship_n if_o a_o man_n hold_v they_o forth_o in_o a_o spirit_n of_o christian_a meekness_n and_o love_n though_o with_o zeal_n and_o constancy_n he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v persecute_v but_o tolerate_v till_o god_n may_v be_v please_v to_o manifest_v his_o truth_n to_o he_o this_o conclusion_n i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n yet_o 3._o thing_n be_v very_o observable_a in_o the_o manner_n of_o lay_v it_o down_o 1._o that_o such_o a_o person_n may_v be_v tolerate_v till_o god_n may_v be_v please_v to_o reveal_v his_o truth_n to_o he_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n the_o apostle_n call_v for_o meekness_n and_o gentleness_n towards_o all_o man_n and_o towards_o such_o as_o oppose_v themselves_o 2._o tim._n 2._o because_o it_o may_v be_v god_n may_v give_v they_o repentance_n hence_o a_o soul_n that_o be_v lively_a and_o sensible_a of_o god_n mercy_n can_v but_o be_v patient_a and_o gentle_a towards_o the_o jew_n towards_o the_o turk_n yea_o to_o all_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o anti-christians_a yea_o to_o the_o pagan_n and_o to_o the_o wild_a sort_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n who_o have_v not_o hear_v of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n etc._n etc._n yea_o not_o only_o be_v patient_a to_o such_o but_o also_o to_o pray_v for_o such_o yea_o and_o to_o endeavour_v their_o participation_n of_o the_o same_o grace_n and_o mercy_n defender_n this_o nothing_o shake_v no_o nor_o so_o much_o as_o touch_v our_o cause_n or_o defence_n we_o think_v it_o unlawful_a for_o the_o church_n to_o censure_v such_o as_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o civil_a state_n we_o know_v no_o ground_n they_o have_v to_o persecute_v jew_n or_o turk_n or_o other_o pagan_n for_o cause_n of_o religion_n though_o they_o all_o err_v in_o fundamental_n no_o nor_o will_v i_o exempt_v anti-christians_a neither_o from_o toleration_n notwithstanding_o their_o fundamental_a error_n unless_o after_o conviction_n they_o still_o continue_v to_o seduce_v simple_a soul_n into_o their_o damnable_a and_o pernicious_a heresy_n as_o into_o the_o worship_n of_o false_a god_n into_o confidence_n of_o their_o own_o merit_n for_o justification_n into_o seditious_a conspiracy_n against_o the_o life_n and_o state_n of_o such_o prince_n as_o will_v not_o submit_v their_o conscience_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n which_o if_o the_o discusser_n shall_v in_o the_o sequel_n pluck_v off_o as_o the_o silken_a cover_n of_o a_o image_n as_o he_o call_v it_o we_o shall_v further_o attend_v he_o discusser_n 2._o i_o observe_v from_o the_o scripture_n he_o quote_v for_o this_o toleration_n phil._n 3._o rom._n 14._o how_o close_o yet_o i_o hope_v unadvised_o he_o make_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n at_o philippi_n and_o rome_n all_o one_o with_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n etc._n etc._n defender_n no_o such_o matter_n i_o never_o think_v these_o scripture_n to_o belong_v at_o all_o to_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n or_o rome_n paul_n write_v to_o both_o the_o church_n not_o only_o to_o tolerate_v but_o to_o receive_v their_o weak_a brethren_n who_o dissent_v from_o they_o in_o matter_n of_o less_o moment_n but_o to_o the_o city_n i_o never_o read_v any_o epistle_n of_o he_o who_o will_v ever_o imagine_v the_o discusser_n shall_v be_v so_o far_o transport_v beyond_o all_o bound_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o truth_n or_o candour_n as_o to_o surmise_v the_o answerer_n shall_v conceive_v that_o what_o those_o church_n must_v not_o tolerate_v in_o their_o holy_a communion_n that_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n must_v not_o tolerate_v within_o the_o compass_n
wit_n while_o they_o remain_v bad_a yet_o it_o be_v their_o work_n to_o seek_v the_o change_n of_o the_o bad_a into_o good_a ground_n that_o so_o they_o may_v come_v to_o prosper_v and_o flourish_v for_o be_v it_o not_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o the_o church_n to_o bring_v on_o their_o child_n to_o become_v the_o sincere_a people_n of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o to_o keep_v themselves_o in_o that_o estate_n be_v it_o not_o a_o main_a branch_n of_o their_o covenant_n with_o god_n that_o as_o god_n give_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o god_n to_o they_o and_o to_o their_o seed_n so_o they_o shall_v give_v up_o themselves_o and_o their_o seed_n to_o be_v his_o people_n beside_o have_v not_o god_n give_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n as_o well_o for_o the_o gather_v together_o of_o the_o saint_n as_o for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v he_o not_o give_v the_o church_n and_o the_o gospel_n preach_v in_o the_o church_n to_o lie_v like_o leaven_n in_o three_o peck_v of_o meal_n till_o all_o be_v leaven_v mat._n 13.33_o answ_n 4._o there_o be_v not_o such_o resemblance_n between_o high-way-side_n ground_n and_o good_a ground_n as_o be_v between_o tare_n and_o where_fw-mi nor_o will_v the_o servant_n of_o the_o husbandman_n ever_o wonder_v that_o weed_n shall_v grow_v in_o the_o high-way-side_n ground_n as_o they_o do_v at_o the_o grow_a of_o tare_n in_o the_o field_n nor_o will_v they_o ever_o ask_v the_o question_n whether_o they_o shall_v pluck_v up_o weed_n out_o of_o the_o high-way-side_n or_o stone_n out_o of_o the_o stony_a ground_n or_o pluck_v up_o thorn_n out_o of_o the_o thorney_n chap._n 23._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chapt._n 23._o still_o touch_v the_o tare_n discusser_n these_o tare_n i_o shall_v evident_o prove_v to_o be_v idolater_n and_o in_o particular_a proper_o antichristian_n for_o first_o these_o tare_n be_v such_o sinner_n as_o be_v opposite_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n visible_o so_o declare_v and_o manifest_a ver_fw-la 38._o defender_n answ_n 1._o these_o tare_n be_v not_o such_o sinner_n as_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n for_o than_o none_o shall_v be_v opposite_a to_o they_o but_o they_o for_o contrary_n be_v such_o quorum_fw-la unum_fw-la uni_fw-la opponitur_fw-la but_o evident_a it_o be_v there_o be_v more_o wicked_a one_o opposite_a to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n than_o idolater_n and_o antichristian_o to_o wit_n those_o notorious_o scandalous_a wicked_a one_o who_o the_o discusser_n name_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n drunkard_n thief_n unclean_a person_n answ_n 2._o it_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o beg_n of_o the_o question_n to_o say_v that_o these_o tare_n be_v such_o sinner_n as_o be_v opposite_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n visible_o so_o declare_v and_o manifest_v for_o the_o tare_n be_v not_o discern_v at_o first_o as_o have_v be_v show_v above_o till_o the_o blade_n be_v spring_v up_o and_o bring_v forth_o fruit_n discusser_n these_o tare_n be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o wicked_a one_o which_o wicked_a one_o i_o take_v to_o be_v not_o the_o devil_n for_o the_o lord_n jesus_n seem_v to_o make_v they_o distinct_a the_o tare_n say_v he_o be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o wicked_a one_o or_o wickedness_n the_o enemy_n that_o sow_v they_o be_v the_o devil_n defender_n answ_n 1._o the_o devil_n and_o the_o wicked_a one_o may_v well_o mean_v one_o and_o the_o same_o person_n for_o if_o the_o devil_n sow_v these_o tare_n than_o these_o tare_n be_v the_o seed_n and_o so_o the_o child_n of_o the_o devil_n why_o shall_v they_o be_v call_v the_o seed_n of_o one_o and_o the_o child_n of_o another_o answ_n 2._o suppose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v translate_v the_o child_n of_o the_o wicked_a one_o or_o wickedness_n that_o style_n will_v agree_v to_o hypocrite_n as_o well_o as_o to_o other_o person_n sure_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n jesus_n often_o call_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n hypocrite_n mat._n 23._o and_o he_o call_v they_o also_o a_o wicked_a and_o adulterous_a generation_n mat._n 16._o and_o therefore_o still_o these_o tare_n will_v not_o appear_v to_o be_v other_o than_o hypocrite_n chap._n 24._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 24._o chapter_n still_o touch_v the_o tare_n discusser_n though_o all_o drunkard_n thief_n unclean_a person_n etc._n etc._n be_v opposite_a to_o god_n child_n yet_o the_o opposition_n of_o the_o tare_n here_o against_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v such_o a_o opposition_n as_o fight_n against_o the_o religious_a state_n and_o kingdom_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n 2._o it_o be_v manifest_a the_o lord_n jesus_n intend_v no_o other_o sort_n of_o sinner_n in_o this_o parable_n than_o antichristian_n unto_o who_o here_o he_o say_v let_v they_o alone_o in_o church_n or_o state_n for_o then_o he_o shall_v contradict_v other_o holy_a and_o bless_a ordinance_n for_o the_o punishment_n of_o offender_n both_o in_o christian_a and_o civil_a state_n for_o 1._o in_o the_o civil_a state_n god_n have_v arm_v parent_n master_n magistrate_n to_o punish_v evil_a doer_n murderer_n quarreller_n unclean_a person_n stealer_n extortioner_n such_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v let_v alone_o neither_o in_o lesser_a nor_o great_a family_n town_n city_n kingdom_n rom._n 13._o but_o seasonable_o suppress_v etc._n etc._n 2._o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n who_o officer_n law_n punishment_n weapon_n be_v all_o spiritual_a and_o of_o a_o soule-nature_n he_o will_v not_o have_v antichristian_a idolater_n extortioner_n covetous_a etc._n etc._n to_o be_v let_v alone_o but_o the_o unclean_a leper_n to_o be_v thrust_v forth_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o if_o neither_o the_o offender_n against_o the_o civil_a law_n state_n and_o peace_n aught_o to_o be_v let_v alone_o nor_o the_o spiritual_a state_n the_o church_n ought_v to_o bear_v with_o they_o that_o be_v evil_a rom._n 2._o i_o conclude_v that_o these_o tare_n be_v sinner_n of_o another_o nature_n idolater_n false_a worshipper_n antichristian_o who_o without_o discouragement_n to_o true_a christian_n must_v be_v let_v alone_o and_o permit_v in_o the_o world_n to_o grow_v up_o until_o the_o great_a harvest_n defender_n answ_n 1._o as_o all_o wicked_a person_n be_v opposite_a to_o god_n child_n for_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o light_n and_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o darkness_n can_v but_o be_v opposite_a so_o the_o opposition_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o wicked_a against_o the_o child_n of_o god_n do_v fight_v against_o the_o religious_a state_n and_o kingdom_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n for_o such_o as_o stand_v for_o the_o kingdom_n of_o satan_n as_o all_o wicked_a man_n do_v they_o stand_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n no_o man_n can_v serve_v two_o master_n if_o he_o cleave_v to_o the_o one_o he_o stand_v in_o enmity_n to_o the_o other_o mat._n 6.24_o answ_n 2._o it_o follow_v not_o that_o because_o christ_n bid_v his_o minister_n let_v the_o wicked_a alone_o in_o church_n or_o state_n that_o therefore_o he_o intend_v no_o other_o than_o antichristian_a idolater_n neither_o shall_v christ_n contradict_v any_o ordinance_n of_o his_o own_o for_o the_o punishment_n of_o offender_n both_o in_o christian_a and_o civil_a state_n though_o he_o shall_v command_v other_o offender_n to_o be_v let_v alone_o beside_o antichristian_o for_o no_o ordinance_n or_o law_n of_o god_n nor_o just_a law_n of_o man_n command_v the_o root_n out_o of_o hypocrite_n either_o by_o civil_a or_o church-censure_n though_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o endeavour_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v to_o heal_v their_o hypocrisy_n answ_n 3._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o antichristian_o be_v to_o be_v let_v alone_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o what_o if_o the_o member_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n shall_v some_o of_o they_o apostate_n to_o 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a_o city_n or_o civil_a state_n and_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o uncivil_a and_o injurious_a person_n or_o action_n by_o civil_a punishment_n and_o therefore_o this_o sword_n can_v extend_v now_o as_o it_o do_v in_o israel_n of_o old_a to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n cause_n to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n defender_n i_o easy_o hold_v with_o the_o discusser_n that_o the_o civil_a sword_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n but_o if_o the_o civil_a sword_n ought_v to_o extend_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o civil_a man_n in_o civil_a liberty_n then_o why_o not_o also_o to_o the_o like_a defence_n of_o church_n and_o spiritual_a person_n in_o their_o spiritual_a liberty_n it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o govern_v his_o people_n in_o righteousness_n and_o if_o spiritual_a liberty_n be_v in_o righteousness_n due_a to_o spiritual_a person_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a liberty_n to_o civil_a person_n doubtless_o the_o magistrate_n be_v defective_a in_o rule_n of_o righteousness_n if_o he_o only_o attend_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o civil_a people_n in_o their_o civil_a right_n and_o neglect_v to_o defend_v his_o spiritual_a people_n in_o their_o spiritual_a right_n what_o though_o the_o sword_n be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o new_a it_o can_v therefore_o reach_v no_o further_o either_o then_o or_o now_o then_o unto_o the_o punishment_n of_o man_n in_o bodily_a life_n or_o civil_a liberty_n but_o it_o can_v reach_v to_o punish_v in_o these_o thing_n not_o only_o the_o offender_n in_o bodily_a life_n and_o civil_a liberty_n but_o also_o the_o offender_n against_o spiritual_a life_n and_o soul_n liberties_n what_o though_o it_o be_v call_v a_o civil_a sword_n in_o common_a speech_n it_o be_v not_o a_o scripture-phrase_n so_o to_o call_v it_o it_o may_v as_o fit_o be_v call_v the_o sword_n of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o the_o 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especial_o of_o all_o the_o church_n and_o that_o too_o before_o that_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o they_o do_v tolerate_v their_o member_n in_o such_o their_o causeless_a reproaching_n but_o it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v do_v it_o not_o imply_v that_o if_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o they_o do_v tolerate_v their_o member_n in_o such_o causeless_a reproach_n that_o then_o i_o think_v they_o be_v to_o be_v separate_v from_o answ_n no_o very_o put_v it_o in_o a_o like_a case_n suppose_v a_o child_n shall_v miscall_v and_o revile_v his_o mother_n sister_n i_o may_v say_v it_o be_v a_o fault_n meet_v to_o be_v correct_v yet_o not_o with_o so_o deep_a a_o correction_n as_o to_o be_v disinherit_v or_o that_o his_o mother_n shall_v be_v dispossess_v of_o her_o inheritance_n before_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o she_o do_v tolerate_v her_o child_n in_o such_o revile_n will_v such_o a_o speech_n infer_v that_o in_o case_n it_o do_v appear_v his_o mother_n do_v tolerate_v he_o that_o then_o his_o 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what_o member_n of_o what_o church_n he_o say_v not_o and_o yet_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o stumble_a block_n that_o turn_v he_o out_o of_o the_o way_n of_o communion_n with_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o country_n who_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v never_o hear_v of_o it_o unto_o this_o day_n let_v he_o now_o say_v that_o my_o own_o confession_n be_v sufficient_a answer_n to_o myself_o as_o if_o i_o grant_v that_o in_o case_n the_o member_n have_v be_v know_v who_o so_o reproach_v salem_n and_o the_o church_n know_v whereof_o he_o be_v a_o member_n that_o then_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a separation_n from_o the_o church_n that_o do_v but_o tolerate_v her_o member_n in_o a_o causeless_a reproach_n yea_o and_o from_o all_o other_o church_n too_o that_o hold_v communion_n with_o that_o church_n for_o he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a more_o go_v to_o a_o separation_n then_o so_o unless_o he_o have_v forget_v the_o principle_n and_o rudiment_n of_o church-government_n he_o confess_v that_o to_o be_v true_a which_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o chirurgery_n but_o butchery_n to_o heal_v every_o sore_a with_o no_o other_o medicine_n but_o with_o abscission_n from_o the_o body_n but_o yet_o as_o if_o he_o can_v make_v my_o own_o expression_n confutation_n of_o myself_o he_o say_v that_o i_o have_v confess_v that_o which_o indeed_o be_v not_o my_o confession_n but_o my_o collection_n of_o his_o argugument_n that_o church_n of_o godly_a person_n must_v be_v separate_v from_o for_o inordinate_a worldliness_n if_o this_o be_v a_o contradiction_n it_o be_v he_o and_o not_o i_o as_o i_o show_v above_o neither_o do_v i_o own_o any_o such_o confession_n as_o i_o which_o he_o subjoin_v that_o church_n may_v be_v separate_v from_o when_o they_o tolerate_v their_o member_n in_o their_o causeless_a reproach_n it_o seem_v he_o think_v i_o neither_o remember_v i_o own_o word_n nor_o know_v any_o church-censure_n but_o excommunication_n he_o proceed_v to_o tell_v we_o his_o judgement_n in_o so_o weighty_a a_o case_n as_o excommunication_n or_o separation_n be_v it_o be_v not_o say_v he_o every_o sore_a of_o infirmity_n or_o ignorance_n but_o a_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n of_o obstinacy_n for_o which_o i_o maintain_v that_o a_o person_n ought_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o or_o a_o church_n separate_v from_o i_o know_v not_o how_o this_o judgement_n of_o he_o may_v satisfy_v his_o neighbour_n but_o a_o good_a conscience_n willing_a to_o walk_v by_o rule_n will_v still_o inquire_v where_o it_o be_v meet_v first_o whether_o every_o obstinacy_n even_o before_o conviction_n and_o that_o in_o a_o sin_n less_o heinous_a be_v such_o a_o ulcer_n or_o gangrene_n for_o which_o either_o a_o person_n ought_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o or_o a_o church_n separate_v from_o for_o there_o be_v a_o obstinacy_n against_o a_o good_a way_n as_o there_o be_v a_o scorn_v of_o a_o good_a way_n which_o be_v before_o conviction_n even_o of_o ignorance_n and_o to_o these_o wisdom_n communicate_v good_a counsel_n prov._n 1.20.22_o but_o there_o be_v a_o scorn_v and_o so_o a_o obstinacy_n after_o conviction_n and_o to_o such_o wisdom_n refuse_v to_o communicate_v any_o wholesome_a word_n prov._n 9.8_o 9_o if_o he_o mean_v the_o former_a why_o do_v he_o refuse_v communion_n with_o we_o upon_o such_o a_o obstinacy_n of_o ignorance_n by_o what_o rule_n do_v he_o proceed_v if_o he_o mean_v the_o latter_a let_v he_o produce_v his_o cause_n and_o bring_v forth_o all_o his_o strong_a reason_n whereby_o he_o do_v so_o much_o as_o offer_v to_o convince_v we_o of_o our_o obstinacy_n in_o any_o crime_n and_o we_o will_v acknowledge_v his_o separation_n to_o be_v just_a and_o our_o sin_n to_o be_v great_a in_o not_o harken_v to_o he_o if_o he_o tell_v we_o again_o as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o next_o word_n as_o indeed_o the_o mouth_n be_v most_o full_a of_o the_o abundance_n of_o the_o heart_n if_o he_o tell_v we_o again_o of_o our_o guiltiness_n of_o cruelty_n both_o against_o conscience_n and_o body_n in_o persecute_v of_o they_o we_o must_v needs_o tell_v he_o again_o that_o neither_o himself_n nor_o any_o other_o that_o i_o can_v hear_v off_o do_v ever_o suffer_v any_o censure_n which_o he_o call_v cruelty_n to_o conscience_n and_o body_n till_o after_o his_o separation_n from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o country_n and_o though_o he_o say_v in_o the_o next_o word_n he_o separate_v conscientious_o and_o peaceable_o yet_o do_v ever_o peaceable_a conscience_n before_o he_o separate_v from_o church_n for_o a_o offence_n before_o it_o be_v commit_v if_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o separate_v for_o our_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o hear_v the_o word_n in_o the_o parish_n there_o let_v all_o that_o fear_n god_n who_o