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as_o their_o alderman_n that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v reckon_v inter_fw-la officia_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 668._o nay_o inter_fw-la dona_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ephesi_n 4._o though_o they_o be_v not_o there_o name_v and_o that_o it_o be_v therefore_o great_a rashness_n to_o exclude_v the_o civil_a authority_n out_o of_o the_o church_n nisihanc_n simul_fw-la tollere_fw-la velint_fw-la 557._o except_o they_o mean_v to_o abolish_v it_o altogether_o indeed_o i_o like_v this_o exception_n well_o and_o so_o i_o do_v also_o of_o his_o opinion_n for_o i_o think_v that_o if_o king_n and_o prince_n be_v joint_a commissioner_n under_o christ_n the_o head_n with_o their_o pastor_n doctor_n and_o alderman_n assign_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n they_o may_v be_v well_o content_a and_o reckon_v it_o no_o disparagement_n unto_o the_o best_a of_o they_o that_o the_o prince_n their_o sovereign_n shall_v bear_v the_o chief_a and_o the_o great_a sway_n among_o they_o and_o all_o this_o make_v direct_o against_o cartwright_n even_o as_o though_o man_n of_o purpose_n shall_v have_v study_v to_o have_v disgrace_v he_o which_o sure_o need_v not_o for_o if_o his_o own_o writing_n be_v narrow_o look_v into_o there_o be_v sufficient_a in_o they_o to_o decipher_v he_o in_o his_o colour_n 470._o i_o marvel_v what_o he_o mean_v when_o he_o write_v that_o a_o king_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o israelit_n to_o shadow_v out_o to_o they_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ._n will_v he_o leave_v his_o scholar_n at_o liberty_n to_o reason_n as_o the_o apostle_n do_v when_o they_o shall_v see_v their_o time_n christ_n be_v now_o come_v in_o the_o flesh_n &_o be_v our_o high_a priest_n have_v perform_v the_o work_n of_o our_o salvation_n therefore_o the_o priesthood_n of_o aaron_n be_v but_o a_o shadow_n of_o christ_n priesthood_n ought_v now_o to_o cease_v and_o even_o so_o they_o when_o they_o listen_v the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v now_o come_v unto_o we_o &_o 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