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he_o shall_v do_v we_o great_a favour_n to_o name_v the_o offender_n article_n 21_o in_o cathedral_n church_n the_o communion_n shall_v be_v ministredevery_n sunday_n at_o the_o least_o answer_n if_o often_o communion_n be_v commendable_a then_o be_v our_o church_n to_o be_v prefer_v before_o that_o of_o geneva_n that_o communicate_v only_o quarterly_a better_o therefore_o it_o be_v for_o malice_n to_o keep_v silence_n then_o to_o say_v that_o which_o be_v nothing_o let_v he_o if_o he_o can_v detect_v those_o that_o be_v culpable_a article_n 22_o the_o godfather_n do_v not_o their_o duty_n neither_o do_v bishop_n urge_v they_o answer_n let_v he_o show_v that_o bishop_n may_v do_v it_o by_o law_n and_o then_o reprove_v they_o for_o not_o do_v their_o duty_n if_o it_o be_v leave_v to_o the_o conscience_n of_o godfather_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n why_o shall_v the_o bishop_n be_v charge_v with_o other_o man_n fault_n forsooth_o this_o libeller_n mean_v to_o lay_v all_o fault_n on_o the_o bishop_n back_n i_o will_v to_o god_n for_o my_o part_n there_o be_v no_o fault_n but_o in_o bishop_n so_o far_o be_o i_o from_o envy_v any_o man_n purity_n but_o this_o purity_n i_o fear_v be_v but_o hypocrisy_n for_o many_o puritan_n mislike_v godfather_n and_o be_v very_o impure_a in_o life_n and_o conversation_n article_n 23_o bishop_n be_v command_v to_o confirm_v child_n yet_o few_o do_v it_o answer_n the_o puritan_n common_o deride_v confirmation_n albeit_o a_o most_o ancient_a and_o christian_a ceremony_n this_o fellow_n charge_v bishop_n with_o a_o great_a fault_n for_o omit_v it_o how_o will_v these_o agree_v nay_o how_o will_v this_o companion_n verify_v his_o assertion_n be_v most_o untrue_a but_o if_o any_o bishop_n do_v not_o confirm_v child_n it_o be_v because_o certain_a factious_a person_n have_v persuade_v the_o people_n to_o refuse_v it_o and_o that_o very_o wicked_o not_o only_o fantastical_o article_n 24_o curate_n do_v not_o instruct_v servant_n and_o youth_n upon_o holiday_n answer_n causeless_a do_v this_o accuser_n bark_v against_o curate_n see_v he_o can_v charge_v any_o particular_a if_o he_o can_v let_v he_o call_v he_o before_o his_o superior_n the_o exercise_n be_v good_a and_o godly_a neither_o do_v any_o account_n it_o tyranny_n to_o instruct_v the_o ignorant_a but_o sure_a great_a presumption_n it_o be_v for_o young_a puritan_n public_o to_o examine_v grave_a and_o discreet_a man_n that_o know_v more_o than_o themselves_o and_o indiscretion_n to_o use_v examination_n as_o the_o disciplinarian_n will_v have_v it_o use_v article_n 25_o none_n shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n that_o can_v say_v the_o catechism_n therefore_o curate_n shall_v examine_v communicant_n and_o seelude_v they_o that_o be_v want_v in_o knowledge_n answer_n can_v you_o show_v any_o curate_n that_o have_v not_o do_v their_o duty_n herein_o if_o you_o can_v carry_v they_o before_o the_o ordinary_a they_o crave_v no_o favour_n in_o the_o mean_a 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people_n forsooth_o they_o square_v it_o out_o for_o the_o most_o part_n in_o new_a fashion_a &_o conceit_a apparel_n &_o be_v all_o clad_v in_o satin_n &_o velvet_n and_o costly_a apparel_n and_o brave_a it_o like_o people_n of_o a_o new_a government_n some_o for_o humility_n sake_n go_v in_o flat_a cap_n other_o go_v like_o clown_n in_o russet_a cloak_n &_o well_o they_o may_v for_o their_o religion_n be_v a_o russet_a religion_n good_a for_o none_o but_o russet_a coat_n &_o such_o as_o favour_v popular_a government_n &_o fit_v none_o but_o our_o rustical_a platformer_n who_o manner_n be_v rude_a &_o uncivil_a that_o man_n go_v not_o more_o orderly_a this_o faction_n be_v cause_n which_o make_v war_n against_o the_o ministry_n and_o by_o all_o mean_n seek_v to_o offer_v they_o scorn_v article_n 45_o the_o bishop_n official_o allow_v none_o to_o be_v absent_a from_o their_o own_o parish_n unless_o they_o will_v pay_v a_o mark_n for_o a_o licence_n yet_o law_n suffer_v man_n to_o hear_v sermon_n other_o where_n answer_n law_n restrain_v man_n to_o their_o own_o parish_n but_o lust_n will_v be_v gad_v abroad_o to_o see_v what_o be_v do_v elsewhere_o for_o which_o if_o any_o official_o grant_v licence_n contrary_a to_o law_n there_o be_v law_n to_o correct_v they_o but_o why_o this_o man_n shall_v be_v so_o offend_v with_o take_v money_n for_o licence_n i_o see_v no_o cause_n see_v his_o dear_a friend_n yea_o himself_o too_o use_v more_o take_v then_o give_v and_o consider_v that_o pettifogger_n &_o scrivanoes_n such_o as_o the_o author_n of_o this_o book_n seem_v to_o be_v live_v by_o take_v &_o take_v without_o licence_n and_o contrary_a both_o to_o licence_v and_o law_n and_o have_v win_v more_o by_o take_v than_o other_o by_o long_a service_n and_o for_o all_o their_o pretend_a hypocrisy_n will_v neither_o spend_v nor_o loose_v commodity_n for_o their_o puritan_n cause_n why_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v suffer_v to_o frequent_v factious_a sermon_n there_o be_v diverse_a cause_n it_o be_v the_o way_n to_o faction_n sect_n heresy_n and_o tumult_n and_o diverse_a other_o disorder_n article_n 46_o song_n in_o church_n shall_v be_v distinct_a and_o modest_a answer_n so_o they_o be_v but_o the_o libeler_n ear_n be_v percase_o so_o out_o of_o tune_n that_o he_o can_v not_o judge_v when_o he_o hear_v they_o for_o how_o can_v his_o ear_n be_v in_o tune_n who_o wit_n not_o long_o since_o be_v in_o so_o great_a discord_n in_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o wise_a man_n that_o can_v judge_v and_o have_v skill_n our_o church_n music_n be_v distinct_a modest_a and_o grave_a and_o far_o pass_v the_o discordant_a tune_n of_o puritan_n article_n 47_o none_n of_o the_o queen_n subject_n shall_v call_v one_o another_o heretic_n nor_o schismatic_n but_o we_o be_v so_o call_v and_o puritan_n too_o by_o certain_a libeler_n answer_n yea_o and_o that_o very_o just_o too_o if_o you_o maintain_v this_o libel_n and_o your_o new_a book_n of_o prayer_n and_o their_o most_o seditious_a and_o heretical_a pamphlet_n of_o t._n c._n and_o other_o neither_o be_v they_o libeler_n in_o so_o call_v you_o nor_o do_v the_o injunction_n protect_v factious_a mate_n but_o quiet_a and_o good_a subject_n such_o as_o you_o will_v not_o show_v yourselves_o to_o be_v rail_v and_o revel_v at_o law_n and_o governor_n in_o most_o shameful_a sort_n and_o therefore_o disdain_v not_o to_o be_v call_v by_o your_o name_n nor_o wonder_v if_o you_o be_v beat_v with_o your_o own_o weapon_n article_n 48_o bishop_n and_o their_o chapleyns_n seldom_o make_v a_o leg_n at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n unless_o it_o be_v at_o the_o read_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o remember_v jesus_n but_o when_o they_o lusty_o swear_v by_o jesus_n answer_n all_o puritan_n utter_o mislike_v this_o bow_n at_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n this_o semypuritan_n and_o demychristian_a mislike_v the_o omit_v of_o it_o therein_o condemn_v all_o his_o companion_n as_o contumacious_a lawbreaker_n and_o not_o prove_v any_o matter_n against_o his_o adversary_n for_o which_o both_o one_o and_o other_o have_v cause_n to_o mislike_v he_o but_o especial_o for_o lie_v and_o slander_v of_o governor_n wherein_o he_o show_v his_o full_a malice_n and_o choler_n in_o charge_v they_o and_o want_v of_o matter_n in_o convince_a they_o the_o puritan_n speak_v nothing_o without_o protest_v do_v you_o not_o call_v that_o swear_v no_o it_o be_v forswear_v for_o when_o they_o protest_v deep_a then_o common_o they_o dissemble_v most_o and_o perform_v least_o yea_o many_o of_o these_o seem_v with_o the_o priscilianite_n to_o have_v little_a regard_n of_o oath_n as_o appear_v by_o their_o examination_n if_o he_o know_v any_o of_o his_o adversary_n that_o offend_v in_o swear_v i_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o shall_v hear_v it_o article_n 49_o the_o queen_n account_v they_o good_a subject_n that_o acknowledge_v her_o majesty_n to_o be_v sole_a supreme_a governor_n over_o all_o her_o subject_n in_o all_o her_o dominion_n the_o bishop_n do_v not_o answer_n if_o nothing_o else_o be_v to_o be_v respect_v but_o this_o point_n then_o be_v all_o lesuite_n and_o seminary_n man_n and_o other_o traitor_n good_a subject_n for_o they_o doubt_v not_o to_o give_v she_o the_o title_n of_o sole_a supreme_a governor_n over_o all_o her_o subject_n but_o that_o she_o have_v authority_n to_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o judge_v in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o to_o appoint_v judge_n and_o officer_n to_o judge_v therein_o &_o that_o no_o other_o have_v power_n over_o her_o majesty_n neither_o jesuite_n nor_o puritan_n will_v confess_v therefore_o unless_o they_o acknowledge_v all_o the_o rest_n of_o her_o majesty_n prerogative_n and_o show_v more_o obedience_n to_o law_n than_o hitherto_o they_o have_v do_v they_o can_v not_o so_o easy_o escape_v the_o note_n of_o disloyalty_n article_n 50_o the_o bishop_n have_v not_o punish_v offender_n against_o injunction_n but_o be_v only_o careful_a to_o urge_v subscription_n oath_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la etc._n etc._n answer_n if_o the_o bishop_n have_v not_o do_v their_o duty_n why_o do_v not_o thou_o make_v thyself_o party_n and_o accuse_v they_o they_o stand_v upon_o their_o defence_n why_o come_v thou_o not_o forth_o in_o thy_o likeness_n to_o charge_v they_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n take_v this_o answer_n that_o offence_n must_v first_o be_v know_v and_o then_o punish_v and_o second_o that_o bishop_n have_v suffer_v as_o few_o know_a offence_n to_o escape_v unpunished_a as_o any_o other_o officer_n three_o that_o those_o offence_n that_o tend_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o state_n be_v most_o narrow_o look_v unto_o and_o last_o that_o he_o be_v a_o lewd_a mate_n that_o do_v pick_v quarrel_n with_o other_o for_o not_o execute_v those_o law_n which_o himself_o do_v mislike_v as_o concern_v their_o urge_v of_o subscription_n and_o convent_v those_o that_o be_v disobedient_a to_o law_n the_o bishop_n have_v offend_v in_o nothing_o more_o then_o 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