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of_o this_o book_n chapter_n 1._o of_o happiness_n page_n 13_o chap._n 2._o of_o the_o way_n to_o happiness_n page_n 14_o chap._n 3._o of_o the_o diversity_n of_o faith_n hopâ—s_n and_o charity_n page_n 23_o chap._n 4._o of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o infaâ—ibilitie_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n page_n 27_o chap._n 5._o oâ—_n the_o possibility_n of_o keep_v the_o commandment_n page_n 69_o chap._n 6._o of_o religion_n page_n 93_o chap._n 7._o of_o the_o unity_n of_o religion_n page_n 79_o chap._n 8._o of_o the_o spirit_n of_o spiritist_n page_n 103_o chap._n 9_o of_o thâ—_n spiritist_n rule_v of_o faâ—th_n page_n 113_o chap._n 10._o of_o the_o protestant_a church_n page_n 130_o shape_v 1._o page_n 132_o shape_v 2._o page_n 153_o shape_v 3._o page_n 159_o shape_v 4._o page_n 173_o shape_v 5._o page_n 182_o chap._n 11._o of_o the_o roman_a church_n page_n 231_o chap._n 12._o of_o certain_a objection_n make_v against_o the_o roman_a church_n page_n 272_o 1._o objection_n page_n 273_o 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