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to_o bring_v in_o âis_n brazen_a horse_n load_v wit_n arm_v calamity_n for_o england_n ruin_n etc._n etc._n this_o whoâe_a matter_n be_v handle_v afterward_o both_o in_o the_o remitter_n itself_o and_o other_o place_n of_o the_o book_n where_o the_o k._n beside_o this_o blast_n of_o brazen_a word_n have_v no_o one_o argument_n in_o the_o world_n to_o reply_v or_o to_o prove_v any_o calamity_n either_o arm_v or_o unarmed_a to_o be_v likely_a to_o be_v bring_v in_o by_o this_o brazen_a horse_n as_o he_o will_v needs_o term_v it_o of_o mitigation_n or_o toleration_n horse_n the_o imagine_v brazen_a horse_n nor_o answer_v he_o any_o one_o letter_n or_o syllable_n to_o the_o many_o utilitye_n and_o public_a emolument_n which_o there_o i_o show_v to_o be_v pretend_v and_o intend_v thereby_o nor_o do_v he_o so_o much_o as_o go_v about_o to_o answer_v or_o remove_v any_o one_o of_o the_o great_a hurt_n danger_n damage_n and_o inconvenience_n which_o i_o declare_v in_o my_o first_o encounter_n 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to_o all_o material_a point_n and_o that_o he_o be_v full_o clear_v from_o all_o imputation_n of_o falsehood_n etc._n etc._n for_o if_o my_o pride_n be_v no_o more_o swell_n than_o his_o misshape_a answer_n be_v sound_a and_o material_a i_o may_v think_v myself_o a_o very_a humble_a man_n and_o if_o in_o westminster_n hall_fw-mi s._n f._n shall_v be_v accuse_v of_o treason_n or_o felony_n or_o other_o grievous_a crimination_n as_o many_o catholic_a priest_n be_v upon_o less_o occasion_n and_o shall_v clear_v and_o free_v himself_o no_o better_o therein_o then_o here_o he_o do_v in_o this_o reply_n from_o imputation_n of_o falsehood_n he_o may_v quick_o expect_v both_o judgement_n and_o execution_n and_o consequent_o himself_o be_v drive_v to_o that_o hang_a ward_n which_o here_o he_o threaten_v to_o drive_v we_o unto_o and_o last_o whereas_o he_o write_v for_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o epistle_n that_o this_o answer_n of_o his_o be_v end_v and_o publish_v which_o i_o hold_v 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encounter_n which_o be_v this_o that_o s_n it_o f._n h._n be_v enter_v into_o a_o serious_a contemplation_n in_o the_o height_n of_o his_o careful_a watch_n over_o england_n and_o think_v to_o imitate_v perhaps_o herein_o the_o spirit_n of_o some_o hide_a prophet_n who_o he_o desire_v to_o resemble_v esteem_v it_o not_o only_o expedient_a but_o incident_a also_o to_o the_o vigilancy_n of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o general_a watchman_n take_v upon_o he_o by_o his_o own_o election_n &_o not_o by_o any_o man_n commission_n to_o forewarn_v the_o people_n not_o only_o of_o great_a and_o mighty_a feign_a danger_n hang_v over_o they_o from_o catholic_n but_o also_o of_o innumerable_a new_a devise_a blessing_n benefit_n and_o benediction_n abound_v among_o they_o and_o flow_v to_o they_o daily_a by_o the_o fortunate_a change_n of_o old_a religion_n into_o protestancy_n book_n the_o subject_n of_o s_o f._n book_n break_v forth_o into_o these_o word_n of_o fervour_n 2._o pap._n 2._o if_o i_o 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as_o you_o know_v which_o he_o have_v not_o do_v but_o have_v add_v alter_v and_o take_v away_o so_o much_o as_o he_o think_v good_a for_o his_o purpose_n make_v his_o reader_n notwithstanding_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o author_n see_v he_o put_v down_o first_o the_o latyn_a and_o then_o the_o english_a in_o a_o different_a letter_n but_o yet_o he_o that_o shall_v examine_v and_o compare_v text_n with_o text_n he_o shall_v find_v add_v first_o the_o whole_a sentence_n virum_fw-la damnatus_fw-la a_o saluatus_fw-la esset_fw-la ille_fw-la thomas_n then_o dixerat_fw-la rogerius_n tunc_fw-la normannus_n three_o quod_fw-la contumax_n esset_fw-la in_o dei_fw-la ministrum_fw-la regâm_fw-la four_o be_v add_v the_o word_n damnatione_n which_o be_v not_o in_o caesarius_n five_o quod_fw-la signa_fw-la saluationis_fw-la &_o magnae_fw-la sanctitatis_fw-la essent_fw-la eius_fw-la miracula_fw-la be_v not_o in_o the_o author_n text_n sixth_o also_o the_o word_n 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his_o church_n but_o especial_o those_o that_o immediate_o follow_v contain_v the_o author_n conclusion_n of_o all_o which_o be_v these_o quorum_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la christus_fw-la soluit_fw-la cùm_fw-la multis_fw-la &_o magnis_fw-la miraculis_fw-la illum_fw-la glorificavit_fw-la who_o question_n or_o controversy_n christ_n have_v dissolve_v in_o that_o he_o have_v glorify_v he_o with_o many_o and_o great_a miracle_n thus_o write_v caesarius_n soon_o after_o s._n thom._n his_o martyrdom_n and_o now_o by_o this_o one_o example_n of_o plain_a forgery_n and_o cozenage_n and_o by_o these_o few_o line_n so_o corrupt_v pervert_v and_o alter_v the_o reader_n may_v imagine_v what_o infinite_a falsehood_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o fox_n his_o huge_a volume_n according_a to_o this_o account_n in_o which_o upon_o my_o conscience_n and_o some_o trial_n also_o i_o do_v think_v there_o be_v scarce_o any_o one_o story_n true_o relate_v in_o all_o part_n in_o that_o monstrous_a huge_a book_n and_o 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dabo_fw-la clave_n ãâ¦ã_o 16._o etc._n etc._n quodcunque_fw-la ligaveris_fw-la ãâ¦ã_o of_o which_o text_n he_o say_v non_fw-fr ãâ¦ã_o collatione_fw-la indulgentiarum_fw-la debeant_fw-la ãâ¦ã_o clear_a than_o these_o place_n of_o ãâ¦ã_o understand_v of_o give_v ãâ¦ã_o word_n be_v add_v to_o the_o word_n ãâ¦ã_o the_o former_a clause_n do_v evident_o signify_v ãâã_d albeit_o durand_n do_v not_o think_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o indulgence_n be_v clear_o and_o express_o contain_v in_o scripture_n yet_o that_o it_o may_v be_v deduce_v out_o of_o scripture_n for_o which_o cause_n sir_n francis_n cut_v they_o out_o this_o be_v one_o trick_n let_v we_o see_v another_o immediate_o after_o the_o word_n in_o durand_n &_o the_o ancient_a father_n s._n ambrose_n hilary_n hierome_n august_n make_v not_o mention_v of_o indulgence_n etc._n etc._n follow_v gregorius_n tamen_fw-la loquor_fw-la but_o s._n gregory_n speak_v of_o they_o this_o sir_n francis_n dash_v out_o which_o be_v a_o principal_a 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