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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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writer_n do_v testify_v king_n the_o article_n upon_o which_o s._n tho._n disagree_v with_o the_o king_n as_o namely_o that_o no_o bishop_n may_v appeal_v to_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a without_o licence_n of_o the_o king_n that_o no_o servant_n or_o tenant_n hold_v of_o the_o king_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v without_o his_o licence_n that_o no_o bishop_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o punish_v any_o man_n for_o perjury_n or_o break_v his_o faith_n that_o all_o clergy_n man_n may_v be_v force_v to_o secular_a judgment_n as_o all_o controversye_n also_o pertain_v to_o tithe_n and_o other_o like_a case_n and_o now_o if_o these_o controversye_n shall_v have_v fall_v out_o as_o in_o part_n they_o do_v between_o the_o ancient_a christian_n emperor_n and_o the_o holy_a bishop_n before_o name_v will_v they_o not_o think_v you_o have_v stand_v in_o they_o with_o no_o less_o fervour_n then_o s._n thomas_n do_v but_o now_o let_v we_o hear_v and_o examine_v how_o sir_n f._n do_v prove_v this_o holy_a archbishop_n to_o be_v a_o