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A92974 Flagellum flagelli: or Doctor Bastwicks quarters beaten up in two or three Pomeridian exercises, by way of animadversion upon his first booke, intituled, Independency not Gods ordinance. / By J.S. M.A. Published by authoritie. Sadler, John, 1615-1674. 1645 (1645) Wing S276; Thomason E298_25; ESTC R200240 16,323 26

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