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and_o to_o that_o end_n affirm_v that_o he_o do_v concur_v in_o judgement_n with_o these_o author_n follow_v and_o so_o out_o of_o his_o pocket-note_n set_v down_o their_o word_n in_o this_o manner_n 60_o apostoli_fw-la nihil_fw-la vi_fw-la gerebant_fw-la tantùm_fw-la utebantur_fw-la gladio_fw-la spiritus_fw-la neminem_fw-la agebant_fw-la in_o exilium_fw-la nullius_fw-la invadebant_fw-la facultates_fw-la haec_fw-la omnie_n erasmus_fw-la non_fw-la minùs_fw-la disertè_fw-la quà m_fw-la verè_fw-la that_o be_v the_o apostle_n do_v nothing_o by_o force_n they_o only_o use_v the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n they_o drive_v no_o man_n into_o exile_n they_o enter_v upon_o no_o man_n possession_n all_o this_o say_v erasmus_n no_o less_o elegant_o then_o true_o costerus_n in_o fidei_fw-la demonstrat_fw-la pag._n 96._o si_fw-mi aliqui_fw-la reges_fw-la cum_fw-la populo_fw-la se_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la romanis_n pontificibus_fw-la ut_fw-la traditur_fw-la de_fw-la anglis_fw-la nihil_fw-la ad_fw-la 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