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B15350 De adiaphoris Theological and scholastical positions, concerning the nature and vse of things indifferent. Where also is methodically and briefely handled, of ciuill and ecclesiasticall magistrates, of humane lawes, of Christian libertie, of scandall, and of the worship of God. A vowed worke, destinated (by the grace of God) to appease the dissentions of the Church of England. Written in Latine by M. Gabriel Powel, and translated into English by T.I.; De adiaphoris. English Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.; Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640, attributed name.; T. I., fl. 1607. 1607 (1607) STC 20146; ESTC S101530 122,532 204

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out of the holie Scripture and other exercises of godlines performed as shall be conuenient and agreeable to good Order 35 And specially those things which doe preserue Discipline as Catechisings Ecclesiasticall censures fasting c. 36 Furthermore we must beware that many Actions be not done together in one Congregation which may mutually hinder one another as it was among the Corinthians when many Prophets spake at once to the people and when many took together the Lords Supper some of them being drunken and othersome hungrie 1. Cor. 11.18 c. 37 Such confusion was frequent and vsuall in the Papacie For at one time in one and the same Church were celebrated many and diuers Masses and other Offices Thus much for Order It followeth to speake of Decencie 38 Then are things said to be done DECENTLY in the Church DECENCIE such things as belong thereunto when they are performed with grauitie not rashly with authoritie not vainely or lightly and with vnfained pietie 39 As for example It doth more become Men to speake in the Church and to vndergoe offices than Women as also S. Paul prescribeth and those that are ancient rather than yong and in the morning rather than in the euening for which cause the Church hath ordained the Lords Supper to be administred in the forenoone 40 Hereunto do those things belong which the Apostles haue deliuered concerning the holy Congregations to be assembled on the Sabbath day Acts 20.7 1. Cor. 16.2 concerning the manner and order of Prophecysing of Singing and Praying in holy assemblies 1. Cor. 14.5 c. of couering of women 1. Cor. 11.5.6 of the rite of ordaining Ministers of the Church 1. Tim. 3.4 Tit. 1.7 c. 41 All which things Note well although they were deliuered and ordained by the Apostles yet are they of lesse importance and regard than are the Articles of faith deliuered by thē because the Grounds of religion remaine immoueable and vnchangeable but these are changeable and may be altred vpon necessarie occasions 42 There is a double End of this Decencie First The end of Decency twofold that when such Ceremonies are enioyned as doe winne reuerence vnto the holy exercises by such helps we may be stirred vp to pietie 43 Secondly that modestie and grauitie which ought to be inseparable companions of all honest actions may herein be most apparant and visible 44 CONFORMITIE also seemeth to belong vnto Decencie For it is a comely and Decent thing Conformity belongeth vnto Decency that in the waightier businesses when certaine things being of one and the same nature and kinde haue also as it were like attire and accidences Wherefore it is requisite that in the Ministerie there should be a certaine Conformitie 45 For herein the varietie and diuersitie of the externall forme doth not onely argue a certaine leuitie but also seemeth to import as it were a diuersitie of Religion whereby the simple and vnlearned sort are oftentimes scandalized 46 Now Conformitie Conformity what it is is a certaine similitude or likenes of parts one with another or also of things altogether vnlike 47 And this in the Church is required either in the Greater and substantiall points or in the Lesser and accessorie 48 That Conformitie which is required in the Greater points as in Doctrine and Sacraments is euery way necessarie and no way Indifferent 49 For if there were not in ALL Churches one Faith one Baptisme and one Mediatour then were some necessarily in error 50 But in the Lesser points as in Ceremonies and outward rites there is no such absolute necessitie of Conformitie And yet notwithstanding euen this also ought to bee endeuoured and embraced with all diligence and care both for the preseruing of Decencie and also for auoiding of the scandall of the weake And thus much also of Decencie 51 Also EDIFICATION euen these things which are done Decently and in Order both may and ought to be referred vnto AEDIFICATION 52 For God forbid that the grauitie of the gratious Ministerie of the Gospell should be onely outwardly painted with an idle and pageant like Decencie and formall Order and not applie all things to Aedification that is to promote true pietie and godlinesse that so they may serue to the sincere Worship of God either Spirituall and internall or Corporeall and externall which yet is ordained for the internall 53 For there are two things required of those which either speake or doe any thing in the Church The First is that whatsoeuer they doe they performe it with a purpose and intent of Aedification The Second is that they adde to their intention such a way and meanes whereby Aedificacation may be attained 54 Vnto this end that is to Aedification doth also appertaine the care and charge of DISCIPLINE excommunication and other moderate and not superstitious Censures of the Church whereby the Ecclesiasticall Prelates ought to enforce not onely Lay men but also the Ministers or Clergie to an honest and sober life and seriously to see that no man abuse the freedome of the Spirit to the carnall libertie of the Flesh 55 But if prophane Epicures and belly-gods will not be restrained by the Prelates and Church-gouernours The Ciuill Magistrates ought to ayde and assist the Prelates of the Church but rage and striue against them contemning their Censures then ought the Ciuill Magistrate to put his helping hand and assist the Bishops 56 But with griefe I speake it there are many which are negligent and careles in this point being alway in a foolish iealousie lest the Ecclesiasticall power should grow too great or strong for they themselues would faine dominiere ouer the Gospel the easie and sweete yoke whereof they can in no wise endure 57 And thus foolish men while they endeuor to auoid one vice they fall into another 58 For as in former times they did not only submitte themselues to the spirituall or rather carnall slaues of Antichrist as to their Ghostly Fathers but also in a manner worshipped them as Gods with all honor and reuerence So now on the contrary they neuer thinke themselues FREE enough except they tread and trample vnder their feete the holy Gospell and faithfull Ministers of CHRIST IESVS and raigne ouer them like as Lords doe ouer their bondmen 59 But it cannot be but that Almightie GOD will take an horrible reuenge for this wicked contempt of his holie Ministerie and ordinance and for the damnable ingratitude for the restitution of true Christian libertie and pietie 60 The Things Contrarie to the Finall Cause of Things indifferent are I. Things contrary to the Finall Cause To institute Ceremonies for priuate gaine or respect or else so to abuse such as are alreadie lawfully instituted 61 II. To obserue or ordaine any Ceremonie with an opinion of Worship or of merit or perfection or of absolute necessitie 62 III. To surcharge and ouerburthen the Church with ouer-many Ceremonies whereby many better actions are
among vs Answere is very much to be lamented seeing the free course of the Gospell is somewhat troubled and the common enemie aduantaged thereby But the fault rests on them who of meere superstition and grosse ignorance cannot find in their consciēces to embrace the wholesome Ordinances and Constitutions of the Church not any way preiudiciall vnto the Gospell nor repugnant vnto the Word of God but most agreeable and consonant vnto the same The Defender replies Reply That these things are become bones of contention is only the fault of the Prelates that striue with might and maine for them They acknowledge that they haue power to alter and remoue them and they see great reason so to doe neither can they giue any reasons but childish for continuance of them and yet to the great dishonour of God and to the griefe of thousands of the godly they retaine them It is not the fault Reioynder but the dutie of the Prelats to labour to reduce Schismatiques and factious persons to vnitie and concord neither doe they striue with might and maine for Ceremonies but for the peace of the Church neither can the Prelats without direction from the Christian Magistrate and the consent of the Church alter or remoue the Ceremonies now vsed neither if they could were they in policie to institute any importune innouations which would bee a speciall scandall to many both within and without the Church XVII ARGVMENT IN this Argument the Suppliants Supplicat heaping as themselues professe many things together and contriuing many Arguments into one do certainly very worthily and Christianly discourse as of sundrie other things so especially cōcerning the Lords great mercies in the miraculous deliuerance as of you honorable House of Parliament so also consequētly of the whole State Kingdome thereby redeeming both our Bodies from corporall and our Soules from spirituall intended captiuitie of that bloodie Man of sinne the child of Perdition Which verily should prouoke euery good Christian to speciall thankfulnes vnto our heauenly Father to repentance for our former transgressions to present diligence in our seuerall vocations and euer hereafter to keepe a more vigilant and watchfull eye ouer the perfidious treacherous Aduersaries But let vs examine how the Suppliants applie these things to their purpose BVt before wee come to the particular examination of the REASONS of this 17. Argument the Defender spieth something herein which maketh much for them of his faction Reply In these words saith he let the contrarietie of the Answerer to almost in his whole Answere written be obserued For he being a Scholer his words must be Scholerly interpreted Because therefore wee are not to doubt but that the Answerer remembreth as well what hee hath learned in the Ethiques as in the Elenkes of Aristotle may it please the Reader to vnderstand that Aristotle in his said Ethiques maketh great difference betwixt Bonum and Benè good and well Iustum and Iustè iust and iustly Good and iust things may bee done by euill and vniust men but onely Good and iust men can doe things Well and iustly Because the Answerer therefore doth here testifie that the Suppliants discourse not onely of many Worthie and Christian points but also Worthely and Christianly how can this agree with all the reprochfull termes he giueth them of Schismatiques Refractaries wilfull contenders with the Magistrate presumptuous censurers c. But what maketh all this against me Reioynder or wherein doth it contrary any thing that I haue writtē I haue euer thought and doe at this present thinke as charitie bindeth me that many of the refractarie Ministers are indeede good Men though not as they are schismaticall and in grace and fauour with God as was said before in the 1. Arg. pag. 107. But may not GOOD MEN offend in some things Is our regeneration perfect in this life Doe not wee all amisse in some things Can any man say he hath no sinne What needed all this Defence therefore of a thing that was neuer denied I. REASON of the 17. Arg. God sent lately amongst vs a mightie and feareful Pestilence Supplicat for the omission of some duty which should haue been performed Ergo The high Court of Parliament is presently to restore the refractarie Ministers specially seeing the plague doth still houer ouer our heads ANSVVERE To let the Antecedent passe Answere which yet is not so fully and warily laid downe as it ought to haue been Who doth not see the weakenes of the Consequence For doth GOD plague vs because of the proceedings against the refractarie Ministers and not rather for our horrible Sinnes of securitie pride vnthankefulnes c. This is certaine and that rests to be proued still The Defender replies Reply I haue told you of your mistaking Logike before The Auctor disputeth not particularly of the sinnes that moued the Lord to visite vs but of the generall end wherefore he did both correct vs and also magnifie his mercie towards vs The which hee applied to the particular point of fauour for the Ministers molested Notwithstanding to answere your question though it cannot be denied that for other sinnes the Lord hath so heauily scourged vs yet why should the suppressing of the Ministerie of the Gospell be excluded Haue you told me of my mistaking Logike Reioynder who cannot tell as appeareth by this a logicall Defence what Logike meaneth and are as fearfull of meeting a fallacie as you are of a furie All your clamour was raised only vpon the Correctors mistaking The words in the written coppie which yet is to bee shewed are these They mistake the End as those Gentiles did the Efficient who affirmed they were plagued because of the Christians contempt of their Gods You take all the aduantage you can and allow vs no time to Answere your LIBELS The Auctor divulged his Supplication euen almost in the latter end of the last Session of Parliament and I had not aboue foure or fiue daies to write the Consideration which I was compelled through the straightnes of time to commit vnto the presse as fast as I could write it wherefore I could not intend to correct it my selfe which was the cause aswell of this error you exclaime against as also of breaking the Series of the Alphabet in the Marginall glosses of this 17. Arg. and of some other typographicall escapes Neither haue I much more time allowed me to write this REIOYNDER but am constrained for lacke of time to put part of it to the presse before the whole can be finished If I listed to take exception to what I thinke is the fault of the Printer in this your Booke I might exclaime as much and as iustly as you do but I hold it no ingenuitie to catch at syllables and letters But to returne to your Replie I say againe that the END wherefore the Lord doth correct vs is not the Restoring of the refractarie Ministers but