Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	clerk_n	monk_n	unfruitful_a	24	3	17.3020	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A16832	A defence of the gouernment established in the Church of Englande for ecclesiasticall matters Contayning an aunswere vnto a treatise called, The learned discourse of eccl. gouernment, otherwise intituled, A briefe and plaine declaration concerning the desires of all the faithfull ministers that haue, and do seeke for the discipline and reformation of the Church of Englande. Comprehending likewise an aunswere to the arguments in a treatise named The iudgement of a most reuerend and learned man from beyond the seas, &c. Aunsvvering also to the argumentes of Caluine, Beza, and Danæus, with other our reuerend learned brethren, besides Cænaiis and Bodinus, both for the regiment of women, and in defence of her Maiestie, and of all other Christian princes supreme gouernment in ecclesiasticall causes ... Aunsvvered by Iohn Bridges Deane of Sarum.	Bridges, John, d. 1618.	1587 (1587)	STC 3734; ESTC S106910	1,530,757	1,400

bishop_n hear_v the_o cause_n of_o none_o without_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clerk_n clerk_n otherwise_o the_o bishops_n sentence_n shall_v be_v void_a except_o it_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clerk_n here_o the_o bishop_n be_v restrain_v that_o albeit_o he_o may_v do_v some_o thing_n alone_o unto_o his_o clerk_n minister_n senior_n and_o elder_n yet_o that_o he_o may_v not_o alone_o and_o without_o the_o presence_n of_o their_o assembly_n depose_v any_o of_o they_o from_o his_o live_n etc._n etc._n but_o who_o be_v these_o clerk_n minister_n senior_n and_o elder_n in_o who_o presence_n he_o must_v do_v these_o thing_n do_v he_o admit_v any_o other_o than_o bishop_n themselves_o or_o at_o least_o the_o sacerdotal_a preestes_n the_o gloss_n dispute_v this_o matter_n who_o shall_v be_v this_o counsel_n or_o chapter_n or_o sitter_n by_o with_o the_o bishop_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o must_v be_v all_o clerk_n refer_v we_o to_o the_o sixth_o cause_n quest._n 3._o scitote_fw-la know_v you_o that_o to_o be_v a_o certain_a province_n which_o have_v ten_o or_o eleven_o city_n and_o one_o king_n and_o as_o many_o inferior_a potestates_fw-la under_o he_o one_o metropolitan_a and_o other_o suffragans_n 10_o or_o 11._o bishop_n be_v judge_n unto_o who_o judgement_n all_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o bishop_n unto_o and_o of_o other_o preeste_n and_o city_n may_v be_v refer_v that_o matter_n may_v be_v discern_v by_o all_o these_o just_o and_o with_o consonant_a voice_n except_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v do_v appeal_v to_o a_o high_a authority_n it_o must_v not_o be_v that_o every_o province_n shall_v be_v debase_v or_o dishonour_v but_o shall_v have_v in_o itself_o judge_n every_o of_o the_o preeste_n and_o bishop_n that_o be_v to_o wit_n according_a to_o their_o order_n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o these_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n of_o such_o as_o sit_v in_o the_o council_n and_o judgemente_n of_o preestes_n be_v either_o bishop_n or_o at_o jest_n sacerdotal_a preeste_n only_o and_o not_o person_n of_o inferior_a order_n but_o every_o one_o be_v judge_v according_a to_o their_o estate_n by_o they_o that_o be_v at_o the_o least_o of_o their_o own_o order_n and_o not_o teacher_n by_o such_o as_o be_v no_o teacher_n now_o after_o this_o fiftéenth_fw-mi cause_n wherein_o he_o treat_v of_o clerk_n elder_n senior_n minister_n and_o priest_n indifferent_o this_o next_o cause_n to_o wit_n the_o sixteenth_o which_o danaeus_n cit_v be_v altogether_o of_o monk_n and_o especial_o that_o first_o question_n which_o he_o allege_v whether_o they_o may_v do_v that_o thing_n in_o respect_n simple_o they_o be_v monk_n that_o secular_a clerk_n and_o priest_n or_o elder_n may_v do_v this_o first_o question_n be_v this_o utrum_fw-la monachis_fw-la liceat_fw-la officia_fw-la populis_fw-la celebrare_fw-la poenitentiam_fw-la dare_v &_o baptizare_fw-la whether_o monk_n may_v celebrate_v the_o divine_a service_n to_o the_o people_n enjoin_v penitence_n and_o baptise_v to_o the_o which_o the_o answer_n be_v this_o they_o cannot_a and_o anon_o among_o other_o reason_n he_o allege_v this_o out_o of_o hierome_n also_o ad_fw-la riparium_fw-la &_o desiderium_fw-la monachus_n non_fw-la docentis_fw-la sed_fw-la plangentis_fw-la habet_fw-la officium_fw-la a_o monk_n have_v not_o the_o office_n of_o a_o teacher_n but_o of_o a_o mourner_n and_o even_o immediate_o before_o that_o which_o danaeus_n cit_v be_v these_o word_n alia_fw-la causa_fw-la the_o cause_n of_o a_o monk_n be_v another_o and_o another_o the_o cause_n of_o a_o clerk_n the_o clerk_n feed_v the_o sheep_n say_v the_o monk_n i_o be_o feed_v they_o live_v of_o the_o altar_n the_o axe_n be_v put_v to_o i_o monk_n as_o at_o the_o root_n of_o a_o unfruitful_a tree_n if_o i_o bring_v not_o my_o gift_n unto_o the_o altar_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o i_o to_o sit_v before_o a_o elder_a if_o i_o shall_v sin_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o he_o to_o deliver_v i_o to_o satan_n for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o the_o spirit_n in_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v be_v safe_a idem_fw-la ad_fw-la rusticum_n the_o same_o be_v in_o hieroms_n epistle_n unto_o rusticus_n and_o here_o come_v in_o that_o which_o danaeus_n cit_v ecclesia_fw-la the_o church_n have_v a_o senate_n the_o assembly_n of_o elder_n without_o who_o council_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o monk_n to_o do_v nothing_o all_o this_o now_o due_o consider_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o by_o this_o the_o church_n senate_n or_o assembly_n of_o elder_n be_v mean_v only_o a_o senate_n of_o such_o elder_n as_o do_v feed_v both_o the_o people_n and_o the_o monk_n also_o with_o the_o worde_n and_o sacrament_n for_o so_o the_o gloss_n expound_v the_o monk_n word_n ego_fw-la pascor_fw-la i_o be_o feed_v a_o sacramentis_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la of_o their_o sacrament_n and_o that_o these_o elder_n live_v of_o the_o altar_n monkey_n and_o that_o the_o very_a monk_n in_o those_o day_n be_v not_o exempt_v from_o pay_v tithe_n or_o offering_n unto_o they_o and_o that_o these_o elder_n may_v excommunicate_v these_o monk_n so_o well_o as_o they_o may_v other_o man_n by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o this_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n be_v none_o other_o but_o a_o assembly_n colleague_n or_o consistory_n of_o preestes_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n and_o as_o for_o any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a presbyter_n or_o elder_n in_o all_o or_o any_o of_o the_o canon_n either_o of_o the_o counsel_n general_n or_o provincial_n or_o of_o the_o bishop_n or_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n decree_n or_o decretal_n than_o such_o elder_n as_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o worde_n and_o sacrament_n our_o brethren_n shall_v find_v but_o sorry_a comfort_n no_o nor_o in_o any_o of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v their_o best_a as_o i_o take_v it_o to_o leave_v all_o further_a search_n that_o way_n for_o any_o proof_n or_o practice_n at_o all_o of_o such_o ecclesiastical_a govern_n and_o not_o teach_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n even_o from_o the_o very_a apostle_n time_n and_o this_o withal_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o where_o our_o bret._n will_v now_o bear_v the_o world_n in_o hand_n there_o be_v such_o senate_n and_o segniory_n of_o these_o govern_n and_o not_o teach_v elder_n in_o the_o primitive_a &_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o for_o proof_n hereof_o dare_v adventure_n to_o cite_v all_o these_o testimony_n and_o if_o i_o can_v find_v that_o they_o cite_v any_o mo_z i_o will_v crave_v pardon_n to_o search_v they_o likewise_o which_o when_o they_o be_v all_o view_v &_o examine_v there_o be_v not_o one_o father_n not_o one_o historiographer_n not_o one_o canon_n that_o make_v any_o whit_n for_o any_o such_o kind_n of_o elder_a as_o our_o brethren_n pretend_v to_o we_o be_v wear_v out_o of_o use_n and_o they_o now_o endeavour_n to_o have_v again_o eviue_v i_o know_v that_o these_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n be_v both_o godly_a and_o learned_a man_n do_v not_o cite_v these_o author_n of_o any_o set_a purpose_n to_o deceive_v we_o elder●_n in_o father_v that_o on_o they_o which_o they_o never_o speak_v nor_o thought_n nor_o know_v but_o as_o the_o proverb_n say_v mistake_v make_v misse-reckoning_a so_o they_o have_v conceive_v this_o with_o themselves_o that_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o govern_v and_o not_o teach_v ecclesiastical_a elder_n there_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n so_o often_o as_o they_o read_v in_o the_o father_n the_o name_n of_o presbyter_n of_o elder_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v any_o mention_n of_o senate_n college_n or_o company_n of_o they_o and_o that_o these_o in_o any_o matter_n join_v with_o the_o bishop_n to_o who_o they_o apply_v only_o the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o pastoral_n elder_a straightway_o they_o conceive_v that_o which_o they_o fancy_v that_o these_o elder_n be_v those_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n govern_v only_o and_o not_o meddle_v with_o teach_n father_n which_o too_o quick_a conceive_v upon_o their_o forestall_a opinion_n especial_o in_o the_o heat_n of_o zeal_n to_o have_v thing_n amend_v may_v fall_v out_o now_o and_o then_o for_o lack_v of_o more_o mature_a deliberation_n and_o examine_v even_o to_o the_o best_a learned_a and_o most_o holy_a man_n and_o that_o i_o think_v have_v be_v the_o cause_n of_o our_o brethren_n mislike_v and_o misseport_v the_o father_n meaning_n in_o the_o eldership_n which_o when_o themselves_o shall_v apperceive_v i_o doubt_v not_o for_o the_o reverend_a opinion_n i_o have_v of_o they_o and_o of_o all_o our_o brethren_n but_o that_o they_o will_v relent_v in_o this_o behalf_n at_o leastwise_o for_o these_o father_n thus_o cite_v amiss_o and_o either_o let_v they_o all_o go_v or_o seek_v further_o in_o they_o or_o in_o other_o for_o other_o and_o better_a testimony_n

such_o controller_n not_o teacher_n lucretius_n what_o elder_n hierom._n allow_v of_o danae●s_n in_o 1._o tim._n 5.19_o the_o superior_a government_n of_o one_o in_o every_o company_n the_o order_n and_o government_n of_o that_o jerome_n commend_v hier._n in_o epis_fw-la ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la danaeus_n allegation_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n for_o this_o senate_n of_o elder_n canon_n eccl._n 16_o quest_n 1._o the_o canan_n law_n canon_n absque_fw-la synodali_n causa_fw-la 15._o quest_n 7._o 7._o le_fw-fr vi_o aura_fw-fr these_o elder●_n be_v minister_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o b._n &_o his_o clerk_n who_o these_o elder_n and_o clark_n be_v that_o these_o canon_n have_v relation_n unto_o the_o difference_n of_o the_o clerk_n &_o of_o the_o monk_n the_o monk_n pay_v tithe_n &_o offering_n to_o the_o elder_n the_o elder_n may_v excommunicate_v the_o monkey_n the_o cause_n of_o our_o bret._n &_o these_o reverend_a man_n mistake_v the●e_n allegation_n of_o these_o elder●_n mistake_v the_o father_n danaeus_n in_o 2._o parte_fw-la christ._n isag._n cap._n 7._o caluines_n allegation_n of_o the_o same_o in_o instit._n cap_n 8._o sect_n 42_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o elder_n who_o cal._n thin●eth_v ●o_o be_v the_o governor_n bom_n 12_o &_o 1._o cor._n 12._o rom._n 12._o for_o governor_n caluines_n interpretation_n not_o necessary_a every_o church_n have_v not_o a_o sanate_n governor_n this_o consistory_n of_o these_o elder_n not_o necessary_a rom._n 12._o of_o the_o perpetuity_n and_o necessity_n of_o deacon_n danaeus_n in_o christ._n isag._n 2._o para_fw-it ca._n 10._o the_o elder_n mention_v act._n 20._o &_o 1_o pet_n 5._o be_v pastoral_a elder_n by_o our_o brethren_n own_a confession_n danaeus_n contradiction_n to_o our_o br._n for_o the_o elder_n in_o these_o place_n caluinu●_n in_o instit._n ca._n 8._o sect_n 4._o the_o elder_n act._n 20._o &_o p._n 5_o caluine_a contrary_n to_o danaeus_n for_o the_o elder_n act._n 20._o calv._n in_o inst._n ca._n 8._o sect_n 42._o calvine_n confess_v that_o the_o place_n act._n 20._o be_v only_o of_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n caluinus_n in_o act._n 20._o ver_fw-la 17._o the_o elder_n governor_n ver._n 18._o these_o elder_n that_o be_v governor_n and_o and_o corrector_n of_o manner_n be_v also_o teacher_n those_o who_o danaeus_n call_v govern_v &_o not_o teach_v elder_n caluin_n call_v pastor_n bishop_n &_o feeder_n with_o the_o word_n elder_n 1._o pet._n 5._o our_o breath_n sestimonie_n against_o danaeus_n for_o the_o elder_n 1._o pet._n 5._o caluinus_n in_o instit._fw-la ca._n 13._o sect_n 7._o for_o the_o elder_n 1._o pe._n 5._o even_o the_o general_a name_n of_o ecl_n elder_n for_o governor_n exemplify_v by_o teacher_n the_o office_n of_o their_o eldership_n consist_v in_o feed_v the_o word_n of_o peter_n speak_v to_o feeder_n hale_v to_o such_o as_o be_v not_o feeder_n the_o several_a parish_n of_o the_o elder_n as_o daneus_n report_v sozomenus_n there_o be_v but_o one_o elder_a in_o every_o parish_n eccl._n hist._n hermiae_fw-la sozomeni_n li._n 1._o cap._n 2._o sozomenus_n for_o these_o elder_n elder_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d danaeus_n miscollection_n of_o sozomenus_n word_n sozomenus_n mistake_v the_o lack_n of_o through_o search_v the_o cause_n of_o our_o br._n mistake_v act._n 17.11_o the_o elder_n that_o sozomenus_n mention_v be_v teach_v elder_n danaeus_n testimony_n for_o for_o these_o elder_n act._n 21.18_o act._n 21.18_o the_o probability_n that_o the_o elder_n mention_v act._n 21.18_o be_v teacher_n these_o elder_n be_v exhorter_n of_o paul_n they_o be_v such_o as_o from_o who_o knowledge_n shall_v begin_v they_o be_v such_o as_o be_v not_o of_o the_o people_n but_o distinct_a from_o they_o act._n 21._o &_o 15._o these_o elder_n act._n 21._o be_v here_o plain_o call_v doctor_n danaeus_n testimony_n for_o those_o elder_n phil._n 4._o v._n 8._o phil._n 4.8_o caluinus_n in_o institus_fw-la cap._n 8._o sec._n 42._o phil._n 4.8_o 2._o tim._n 3._o danaeus_n other_o allegation_n for_o elder_n all_o which_o also_o be_v clean_o against_o he_o act._n 20._o aug._n in_o hom_n 50._o hom_n 5._o &_o 7._o esa._n 58._o difference_n of_o the_o false_a teacher_n and_o true_a teacher_n danaeus_n testimony_n 1._o pet._n 3._o make_v nothing_o for_o eccl._n elder_n that_o be_v not_o teacher_n danaeus_n testimony_n 1._o cor._n 14.34_o &_o 35._o be_v likewise_o nothing_o for_o eccl._n elder_n not_o teacher_n james._n 5.14_o for_o these_o elder_n danaeu●_n testimony_n for_o the●e_n elder_n out_o of_o ja._n 5._o and_o 14._o caluines_n opinion_n for_o these_o elder_n d●naeus_n contrary_a to_o caluine_v james._n 5._o aretius_n judgement_n of_o what_o elder_n james_n speak_v the_o elder_n that_o james_n speak_v to_o be_v of_o no_o one_o certain_a office_n either_o ecclesiastical_a or_o lie_v person_n caluine_v own_o testimony_n that_o these_o elder_n be_v minister_n of_o a_o temporary_a sacrament_n &_o so_o teacher_n our_o bre._n discourser_n confute_v danaeus_n act._n 14.23_o our_o brethr_n return_v for_o proof_n of_o these_o elders_n to_o the_o ●ormer_a allegation_n act._n 14.23_o the_o learned_a dis._n pag._n 85._o &_o 86._o act._n 14.23_o bridges_n moderate_v these_o elder_n the_o text_n mention_v not_o that_o the_o apostle_n set_v the_o church_n in_o perfect_a order_n &_o establish_a discipline_n the_o learned_a dis._n pag._n 86._o the_o popular_a state_n bridges_n the_o reduce_n of_o all_o to_o the_o popular_a state_n s._n paul_n excommunication_n 1_o cor._n 5._o the_o learned_a disc_n pag._n 86_o 1._o cor._n 5.4_o bridges_n s._n paul_n by_o his_o separate_a authority_n give_v sentence_n of_o excommunication_n before_o the_o corinthian_n know_v of_o his_o do_v no_o such_o consistory_n among_o the_o corinthian_n the_o manifestnesse_n of_o th●_n fact_n excommunication_n 1._o cor._n 5._o the_o order_n of_o discipline_n that_o our_o br._n prescribe_v &_o thereto_o wrest_v s._n paul_n excommunication_n the_o learned_a disc_n pag._n 87._o math._n 18.17_o bridge_n mat._n 18._o for_o these_o elder_n our_o breath_n supposal_n of_o christe●_n word_n the_o admonition_n may_v be_v do_v without_o a_o consistory_n &_o likewise_o ●xco●m_n mat._n 28._o our_o brethr._n vary_v in_o this_o place_n math._n 18._o the_o consistory_n that_o our_o br._n call_v the_o church_n consist_v but_o of_o one_o of_o these_o elders_n the_o learned_a disc_n pag._n 87_o &_o 88_o math._n 11.6_o bridges_n allusion_n to_o the_o sanedrin_n allusion_n to_o the_o sanedrim_n our_o breath_n prove_v of_o these_o elder_n ●ut_v of_o this_o place_n math._n 18._o the_o head_n of_o all_o this_o question_n christ_n word_n direct_o chrysostom_n hierome_n hilary_n theophilact_fw-mi vatablus_n aretius_n mansterus_fw-la caluine_n prove_v on_o mat._n 18._o caluine_n apply_v christ_n word_n to_o the_o rue_v sanedrim_n caluine_n prove_v on_o mat._n 28._o caluins_n reason_n for_o this_o segniorie_n of_o elder_n to_o be_v renew_v to_o the_o christian_n from_o the_o olone_a sanedrim_n by_o this_o place_n ma._n 18_o caluine_v the_o principal_a interpreter_n of_o christ_n word_n for_o a_o consistory_n of_o elder_n the_o examination_n of_o these_o prove_v of_o caluine_n the_o incestuous_a person_n not_o excom_n by_o a_o consistory_n of_o the_o church_n caluines_n reason_n for_o these_o elder_n on_o mat._n 18._o there_o be_v a_o church_n when_o christ_n speak_v these_o word_n mat._n 18._o and_o a_o church_n that_o have_v order_n when_o paul_n write_v to_o the_o cor._n bucer_n use_v caluins_n reason_n apply_v it_o to_o no_o such_o consistory_n no_o excom_n without_o pastor_n &_o b._n that_o the_o chur._n may_v be_v without_o excomm_n the_o minister_n office_n and_o power_n in_o the_o church_n bucer_fw-la refer●_n we_o to_o aug._n for_o excommunication_n the_o admission_n of_o this_o allusion_n infer_v no_o perpetual_a rule_n of_o a_o like_a consistory_n calu._n own_o example_n overthrow_v this_o perpetuity_n what_o senior_n among_o the_o jew_n have_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o so_o apt_o say_v to_o represent_v the_o church_n danaeus_n 2._o part_n chri._n isag._n li._n 2._o c._n 10._o what_o presbytery_n that_o be_v act._n 22._o caluin_n for_o the_o sanedrin_n the_o synedrion_n or_o sanhedrin_n be_v not_o in_o esdras_n time_n how_o our_o bret._n run_v to_o the_o corruption_n of_o jewish_a tradition_n to_o seek_v out_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o consistory_n of_o govern_v elder_n christ_n word_n import_v no_o translation_n of_o the_o jew_n sanedrin_n to_o the_o christian_n supra_fw-la pag._n 23●_n what_o discipline_n succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o old_a discipline_n calu._n argument_n from_o comparison_n of_o the_o gentile_n the_o shame_n and_o danger_n of_o this_o new_a san●drin_n nova_fw-la glossa_fw-la stephani_fw-la in_o math._n 18_o bertramus_fw-la de_fw-la politia_fw-la judaica_n the_o 70._o elder_n not_o first_o ordain_v num_fw-la 11._o bertran_n of_o the_o jew_n elder_n of_o

themselves_o it_o be_v in_o this_o their_o humour_n for_o this_o presbytery_n what_o be_v here_o for_o so_o excellent_a and_o godly_a learned_a man_n to_o have_v allege_v this_o tyrannical_a decree_n or_o rather_o this_o very_a doctrine_n of_o devil_n in_o this_o superstitious_a council_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n against_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o bishop_n elder_n and_o deacon_n marriage_n &_o against_o the_o very_a antiquity_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o pretend_v ●ind_v yet_o what_o be_v there_o in_o this_o decree_n to_o infer_v that_o this_o power_n and_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n appertain_v only_o and_o always_o to_o a_o presbytery_n join_v with_o the_o bishop_n but_o since_o danaeus_n have_v allege_v this_o council_n let_v we_o see_v how_o this_o council_n direct_o even_o in_o this_o matter_n of_o excommunication_n make_v clean_o against_o he_o he_o for_o in_o the_o 8._o chap._n follow_v it_o be_v say_v alipius_n the_o b._n of_o the_o church_n of_o tagasta_n the_o legate_n of_o the_o province_n of_o numidia_n do_v say_v neither_o must_v that_o be_v praetermit_v that_o if_o perhaps_o any_o priest_n or_o elder_n which_o be_v correct_v or_o excommunicate_v of_o his_o b._n be_v puff_v up_o with_o swell_a or_o pride_n shall_v think_v that_o sacrifice_n be_v separatelie_o to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n or_o shall_v believe_v that_o any_o other_o altar_n shall_v be_v erect_v contrary_a to_o the_o eccl_n faith_n and_o discipline_n let_v he_o not_o go_v unpunished_a valentinus_n of_o the_o first_o seat_n of_o the_o province_n of_o numidia_n say_v the_o thing_n that_o our_o brother_n alipius_n have_v prosecute_v be_v necessary_o agreeable_a to_o the_o eccl_n discipline_n and_o faith_n declare_v you_o therefore_o what_o thereupon_o seem_v good_a unto_o your_o lovingnesse_n whether_o if_o any_o priest_n or_o elder_n shall_v make_v a_o schism_n against_o his_o b_o he_o shall_v be_v accurse_v it_o be_v say_v of_o all_o the_o bishop_n if_o any_o priest_n or_o elder_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o correct_v of_o his_o prelate_n he_o ought_v to_o complain_v to_o the_o bishop_n adjoin_v that_o his_o cause_n may_v be_v hear_v of_o they_o and_o by_o they_o he_o may_v be_v reconcile_v to_o his_o b._n here_o both_o we_o see_v what_o these_o presbyter_n priest_n or_o elder_n be_v to_o wit_n such_o as_o celebrate_v the_o l._n supper_n priest_n &_o also_o that_o upon_o just_a occasion_n the_o b._n himself_o may_v excom_n even_o these_o priest_n or_o elder_n and_o if_o we_o may_v gather_v a_o argument_n of_o absolve_a or_o reconcile_n to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v equivalent_a to_o excommunicate_v we_o may_v have_v see_v before_o in_o the_o 4._o chap._n that_o not_o only_o a_o bishop_n by_o himself_o but_o also_o any_o particular_a priest_n or_o elder_n in_o some_o case_n may_v do_v it_o aurelius_n the_o b._n that_o prop●●ded_v the_o decree_n against_o bishop_n priest_n &_o deacon_n wife_n which_o danaeus_n cit_v say_v if_o any_o man_n shall_v be_v in_o danger_n &_o shall_v desire_v to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n altar_n if_o the_o b._n shall_v be_v absent_v the_o priest_n or_o elder_a aught_o to_o take_v counsel_n of_o the_o b._n &_o so_o at_o his_o commandment_n to_o reconcile_v the_o party_n that_o be_v in_o danger_n if_o the_o priest_n or_o elder_n can_v absolve_v the_o repentant_a party_n at_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o b._n be_v absent_a be_v it_o not_o likely_a the_o b._n can_v do_v it_o himself_o be_v present_a and_o if_o the_o b._n or_o any_o one_o priest_n can_v thus_o absolve_v can_v neither_o priest_n nor_o b._n by_o themselves_o not_o have_v excommunicate_v the_o say_a party_n be_v a_o manifest_a &_o notorious_a offender_n so_o that_o by_o examine_v this_o council_n further_o it_o make_v more_o against_o danaeus_n in_o this_o point_n than_o for_o he_o the_o like_a decree_n unto_o this_o for_o a_o priest_n absolve_a &_o restore_v a_o penitent_a in_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o b._n be_v also_o in_o the_o 3._o council_n of_o carth._n cap._n 32._o 32._o these_o council_n be_v about_o the_o time_n of_o siritius_n which_o siritius_n be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o ambrose_n as_o danaeus_n confess_v &_o ambrose_n himself_o without_o any_o presbytery_n join_v with_o he_o excommunicate_v the_o emperor_n theodosius_n how_o be_v it_o not_o apparent_a that_o in_o those_o day_n a_o b._n by_o himself_o may_v excommunicate_v &_o his_o excommunication_n hold_v for_o good_a &_o lawful_a but_o danaeus_n to_o confirm_v it_o better_o that_o a_o b._n may_v not_o excom_n by_o himself_o add_v the_o 4._o council_n of_o carth._n chap._n 22._o &_o 23._o where_o it_o be_v say_v 23._o that_o a_o b._n shall_v not_o ordain_v clerk_n without_o the_o council_n of_o his_o clerk_n &_o so_o that_o he_o seek_v the_o assent_n the_o sufferance_n and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o citizen_n again_o that_o the_o bishop_n hear_v the_o cause_n of_o none_o without_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clerk_n otherwise_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n shall_v be_v frustrate_a except_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clerk_n what_o be_v here_o that_o the_o bishop_n may_v not_o by_o himself_o excommunicate_a the_o former_a chap._n be_v only_o of_o ordain_v clerk_n &_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o take_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v from_o they_o but_o it_o manifest_o give_v the_o power_n thereof_o unto_o he_o though_o in_o ordain_v a_o priest_n the_o council_n say_v that_o all_o the_o priest_n present_v shall_v lay_v their_o hand_n also_o on_o the_o head_n of_o he_o that_o be_v ordain_v but_o the_o b._n hand_n only_o on_o a_o deacon_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 3._o &_o 4._o etc._n etc._n as_o for_o this_o decree_n chap._n 22._o be_v but_o of_o the_o clerk_n counsel_v to_o the_o b._n and_o though_o they_o say_v also_o he_o shall_v seek_v the_o assent_n sufferance_n &_o testimony_n of_o the_o citizen_n yet_o in_o the_o action_n of_o ordain_v they_o have_v no_o power_n as_o for_o the_o 23._o cha_n require_v only_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o bishop_n clerk_n in_o the_o process_n of_o his_o judicial_a sentence_n but_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o they_o join_v with_o he_o in_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o judicial_a proceed_n and_o give_v the_o sentence_n sentence_n there_o be_v no_o judge_n can_v judicial_o hear_v and_o determine_v any_o cause_n temporal_a but_o he_o must_v have_v his_o clerk_n and_o register_n about_o he_o to_o witness_v and_o record_n the_o same_o but_o neither_o their_o presence_n nor_o yet_o their_o inrol_a of_o the_o act_n give_v they_o any_o authority_n in_o the_o judgement_n he_o be_v dominus_fw-la judex_fw-la for_o all_o their_o presence_n and_o that_o do_v the_o 28._o declare_v say_v the_o unjust_a condemnation_n of_o the_o bishop_n be_v void_a &_o therefore_o to_o be_v retract_v of_o a_o synod_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o excommunication_n it_o be_v say_v even_o in_o the_o next_o decree_n to_o that_o danaeus_n here_o cit_v chap._n 24._o that_o the_o sacerdotal_a priest_n make_v ●_o speech_n or_o preach_v in_o the_o church_n he_o that_o shall_v depart_v out_o of_o the_o audience_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v may_v neither_o the_o priest_n nor_o the_o bishop_n if_o they_o see_v any_o person_n to_o use_v this_o do_n &_o obstinate_o maintain_v the_o same_o pronounce_v this_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n on_o he_o but_o that_o the_o bishop_n may_v so_o do_v in_o this_o and_o in_o other_o grievous_a crime_n we_o may_v well_o conclude_v by_o the_o 55._o chap._n of_o that_o council_n priest_n that_o a_o bishop_n shall_v excommunicate_v those_o that_o be_v the_o accuser_n of_o their_o brethren_n &_o if_o they_o shall_v amend_v their_o fault_n he_o may_v receive_v they_o to_o the_o communion_n not_o to_o the_o clergy_n here_o ●o_o be_v the_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n without_o any_o join_v with_o he_o in_o these_o action_n be_v they_o present_v at_o the_o do_n never_o so_o much_o and_o that_o this_o be_v allowable_a by_o the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n 53._o the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n hold_v almost_o a_o 100_o year_n before_o any_o of_o these_o counsel_n approove_v the_o excommunicate_v make_v by_o a_o bishop_n himself_o say_v chap._n 53._o it_o please_v they_o all_o that_o every_o one_o shall_v receive_v the_o communion_n of_o that_o bishop_n of_o who_o be_v in_o any_o fault_n he_o be_v abstentus_fw-la that_o be_v put_v back_o separate_v or_o excommunicate_v but_o if_o so_o be_v any_o bishop_n shall_v presume_v to_o admit_v he_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o willing_a or_o consent_v of_o who_o he_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o communion_n let_v he_o know_v that_o he_o shall_v answer_v these_o cause_n among_o the_o brethren_n with_o the_o danger_n of_o his_o estate_n concern_v cyprian_n epistle_n we_o have_v peruse_v they_o