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cure_n answer_n many_o thing_n the_o libeller_n affirm_v and_o proove_v nothing_o so_o that_o it_o shall_v seem_v he_o take_v pleasure_n in_o talk_v and_o calumniate_a but_o suppose_v they_o do_v not_o follow_v the_o course_n of_o puritan_fw-gr in_v private_a and_o parlour_n admonition_n &_o paraphrase_n be_v not_o the_o office_n of_o the_o minister_n public_a &_o not_o private_a must_v he_o as_o these_o puritan_fw-gr do_v creep_v into_o woman_n closert_n or_o must_v he_o put_v his_o foot_n under_o every_o merchant_n man_n table_n &_o their_o shrive_v they_o such_o admonition_n as_o the_o office_n of_o minister_n and_o law_n require_v they_o do_v use_v the_o course_n of_o puritan_fw-gr in_o their_o private_a exercise_n and_o paraphrase_n they_o take_v neither_o to_o be_v command_v by_o law_n nor_o to_o be_v suffer_v in_o reason_n for_o the_o manifold_a abuse_n of_o it_o and_o much_o more_o credit_n be_v it_o for_o the_o puritan_fw-gr if_o they_o have_v never_o begin_v their_o table_n 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