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A85717 Mr. Grimston his learned speech in the high court of Parliament: concerning troubles abroad, and grievances at home. Shewing the inward symptomes and causes of all our feares and dangers, and what probability there is of reformation, in case due punishment be speedily executed on the incendiaries and chiefe causers of those distractions that have opprest our church and common-wealth. Grimston, Harbottle, Sir, 1603-1685.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1642 (1642) Wing G2031; Thomason E128_12; ESTC R23011 2,786 8

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Mr. GRIMSTON HIS LEARNED SPEECH IN THE High Court of PARLIAMENT CONCERNING Troubles abroad and Grievances at home SHEWING The inward Symptomes and Causes of all our Feares and Dangers and what probability there is of Reformation in case due punishment be speedily executed on the Incendiaries and chiefe Causers of those distractions that have opprest our Church and Common-Wealth LONDON Novemb. 25. Printed for T. Wright 1642. M. GRIMSTON HIS LEARNED SPEECH IN PARLIAMENT M. Speaker THere hath now a great and weighty businesse beene presented to this House and a Letter hath beene read importing a decision of the Kings naturall Subjects M. Speaker this is a great case and very worthy of the consideration and advertisement of this great Councell but I am very much mistaken if there be not a case here at home of as great a danger as that now put to be abroad the one stands without the doore for so dangers from thence in all our histories have ever beene termed but the case that I would put is a case of danger already upon our backs And in those great cases of danger which so much concerne the welfare of the Body Politique we ought to do in them like skilfull Physitians that are not led in their judgments so much by the outward expressions of a disease as by the inward Symptomes and causes of it For it fares with a body politique as it doth with a body naturall It is impossible to cure an ulcerous body unlesse you first cleanse the veines and purge the body from those obstructions and pestilentiall humours that overcharge Nature and being once done too botches blaines and scabs that grew upon the superficies and out-side of the body dry up shed and fall away of themselves Mr. Speaker the danger that hath now beene presented to the House it standeth at a farre distance and I wish heartily that it were further off yet as it stands at a far distance it is so much the lesse dangerous But the case that I shall put is a case of great danger here at home domestique and therefore so much the more dangerous because it is home-bred and runs in the veines And Mr. Speaker if the one shall appeare to be of as great danger as the other I hope it will not bee thought unreasonable this time to put the one aswell as the other And the case that I would put is this The Charter of our liberties called Magna Charta was granted unto us by King John which was but a renovation and a restetution of the ancient Laws of this Kingdome This Charter was afterwards in the succession of severall ages confirmed unto us above 30 times and in the 3 year of his Majesties reigne that now is we had no more then a bare confirmation of it For we had an Act declaratory past and then to put it out of question and dispute for the future his Majesty by his gratious answer Soit droit comme est desire invested it with the title of Petition of right Mr. Speaker It may be some may object Parturiunt montes c. I promised to present the House with a case of very great danger here at home but the Mountaine hath brought forth nothing but a Mouse That this case is not worthy the name of a case and so not worthy the putting And truly for mine owne part I should have bin of the same opinion had not some expositors contrary to the Lawes of God and Man and reason and I am sure contrary to the Dictamen of their own Consciences marred the text with their expositions undermining the liberty of the Subjects with new invented subtile distinctions and assuming to themselves a power I know not where they had it out of PARLIAMENT to supercede annihilate and to make void the Lawes of this Kingdome What sad effects these wayes and opinions have produced I am confident His Majesty hath neither seene nor heard as we have felt them And it is now his Majesties goodnesse and Piety to give us leave to speake them and to present them with our Greevances which are not few Mr. Speaker the Common-wealth hath bin miserably torne and macerated and all the proprieties and liberties shaken the Church distracted the Gospell and Professors of it persecuted and the whole Kingdome over-run with Multitudes and swarmes of projecting Cater-wormes and Caterpillars the worst of all the Egyptian Plagues Then as the case now stands with us I conceive there are two points very considerable The first is what hath bin done any way to impeach the Liberty of the Subject contrary to the Petition of Right The second is who have bin the Authors and Causers of it Mr. Speaker the serious examination and decision of those two questions do highly concerne his Majesty in the point of Honour and his Subjects in the point of Interest and all that I shall say to it is but the words that Ezra did to King Artaxerxes to the setlement of that State which at that time was as much out of order as ours is at this present and which cured theirs I hope will cure ours His words were these Whosoever hath not done the Law of God and the Law of the King let judgement be speedely executed upon him whether it be unto death or unto banishment or unto Confiscation of goods or to Imprisonment Now M. Speaker it may be some do thinke this a strange text and is it possible Some may thinke it as strange a case As for the text every man may read it that will And for the case I am afraid there are but few here which do not experementally know it to be as bad as I have put it And how to mend a bad case is part of the busines we met about His Majesty hath graciously confirmed unto us our great and ancient Priviledge of Freedome of Speech and haveing his Kingly word for it I shall rest confidently upon it as the greatest security under heaven And whilst I have the honour to have a place here I shall with humility be bound to expresse my selfe as a Free-man The Diseases and Distempers that are now in our body politique are grown to that height that they pray for and importune a Cure And his Majesty out of his tender care and Affection to his people like a nursing Father hath now offered himselfe to heare our prayers and Complaints Mr. Speaker We cannot complaine that we want good Lawes for the wit of man cannot invent better then are already made There want only some Examples that such as have bin the authors and causers of all miseries and distractions in the Church and Common-wealth contrary to those good Laws which be like Treakle to expell the poyson of mischeife out of others But my part is but Ostendere Portam and therefore having put the Case I must leave it to the judgment of this House whether our dangers here at home be not as great and considerable as that which was even now presented FINIS An Order from both Houses of Parliament for regulating of the Army WHereas there have been diverse Complaints made unto us of many disorders committed by the Souldiers in their marching and in such places wherein they have been quartered or billeted which disorders as is informed have been partly occasioned by the neglect of their Officers to goe along with them and conduct them It is therefore Ordered by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament that the Lord Generall be desired to give Command to all his Officers that they take care to attend according to the duty of their severall places that the Souldiers thereby may be hereafter kept from stragling up and downe the Countreyes And to that end to lay his Command upon the Officers of each Company both in the Marching Quartering and Billeting to be in Person amongst the Souldiers themselves to prevent any disorders whatsoever and punish such as shall offend Joh. 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