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i_o a_o fellow_n elder_n not_o to_o tyrannize_v over_o the_o flock_n but_o to_o be_v example_n to_o the_o faithful_a the_o place_n of_o peter_n and_o your_o collection_n make_v against_o yourselves_o retortion_n retortion_n to_o say_v minister_n may_v have_v dominion_n over_o the_o people_n but_o minister_n may_v not_o have_v dominion_n over_o minister_n that_o be_v minister_n may_v rule_v and_o not_o be_v rule_v the_o drift_n of_o the_o place_n be_v minister_n may_v not_o tyrannize_v or_o have_v absolute_a command_n over_o the_o people_n or_o over_o one_o another_o i_o refer_v i_o to_o the_o answer_n make_v to_o the_o second_o demonstration_n of_o this_o matter_n the_o 4._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n it_o be_v ordain_v that_o every_o man_n fault_n must_v be_v hear_v remonstrance_n demonstra_fw-la cypr._n lib._n 1._o epi._n 3._o remonstrance_n where_o the_o accuser_n and_o witness_n be_v ergo_fw-la every_o minister_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o flock_n the_o illative_a be_v 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to_o aspire_v above_o his_o fellow_n minister_n there_o be_v no_o wit_n in_o this_o misshape_a answer_n reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n the_o objection_n do_v not_o permit_v so_o much_o unto_o you_o dominion_n in_o the_o better_a part_n take_v for_o rule_n be_v most_o contrary_v to_o ambition_n it_o must_v be_v unjust_a dominion_n that_o cause_v ambition_n as_o to_o conspire_v against_o his_o superior_a and_o to_o aspire_v to_o a_o high_a place_n or_o seat_n your_o factious_a study_n may_v be_v call_v ambition_n the_o 2._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n the_o greek_a word_n signify_v rule_v with_o oppression_n demonstration_n demonstration_n which_o be_v forbid_v answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n that_o be_v not_o so_o luke_n 22.25_o v._o use_v the_o single_a verb_n to_o rule_v the_o son_n of_o zebedee_n desire_v not_o to_o oppress_v but_o to_o rule_v it_o be_v certain_a reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n one_o place_n must_v expound_v the_o other_o the_o tenor_n of_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contentious_a and_o ambitious_a desire_n of_o rule_v and_o that_o civil_o and_o absolute_o the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n
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