Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	bishop_n	council_n	great_a	1,784	5	3.7492	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A68474	Appello Cæsarem A iust appeale from two vniust informers· / By Richard Mountagu.	Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641.	1625 (1625)	STC 18031; ESTC S112844	144,688	352

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