which_o be_v convert_v and_o the_o conversion_n of_o those_o which_o be_v not_o thus_o be_v timotheus_n and_o titus_n place_v over_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n and_o crete_n just_a upon_o the_o time_n when_o he_o make_v account_n to_o see_v they_o no_o more_o thus_o be_v mark_n attendant_a on_o peter_n at_o write_v his_o first_o epistle_n v._o 13._o who_o be_v afterward_o as_o all_o agree_v seat_v by_o he_o at_o alexandria_n and_o do_v the_o office_n of_o a_o evangelist_n there_o clemens_n and_o linus_n companion_n of_o the_o apostle_n all_o antiquity_n agree_v be_v place_v by_o they_o over_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n though_o in_o what_o rank_n and_o condition_n it_o agree_v not_o the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n be_v remarkable_a where_o he_o answer_v the_o question_n why_o s._n paul_n write_v epistle_n to_o timotheus_n and_o titus_n none_o to_o silas_n or_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o fellow_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o we_o say_v say_v he_o that_o 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apostle_n possess_v for_o they_o and_o afore_o c._n xxxii_o sicut_fw-la smyrnaeorum_n ecclesia_fw-la polycarpum_fw-la ab_fw-la joanne_n conlocatum_fw-la refert_fw-la as_o the_o church_n at_o smyrna_n relate_v that_o john_n place_v polycarpus_n or_o install_v he_o to_o wit_n in_o the_o bishop_n chair_n there_o he_o think_v that_o all_o this_o import_v that_o polycarpus_n take_v place_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o presbyter_n and_o no_o more_o but_o indifferent_a reason_n will_v require_v he_o to_o grant_v no_o more_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n than_o the_o chair_n of_o the_o apostle_n import_v however_o s._n hierome_n reconcile_v his_o opinion_n with_o his_o own_o word_n concern_v the_o presbyter_n of_o alexandria_n that_o from_o s._n mark_n time_n be_v wont_a to_o take_v one_o of_o their_o number_n and_o place_v he_o on_o a_o high_a step_n and_o call_v he_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n common_a sense_n will_v enforce_v the_o high_a rank_n in_o which_o he_o sit_v to_o import_v the_o 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