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A13156 An ansvvere to a certaine libel supplicatorie, or rather diffamatory and also to certaine calumnious articles, and interrogatories, both printed and scattered in secret corners, to the slaunder of the ecclesiasticall state, and put forth vnder the name and title of a petition directed to her Maiestie: vvherein not onely the friuolous discourse of the petitioner is refuted, but also the accusation against the disciplinarians his clyents iustified, and the slaunderous cauils at the present gouernement disciphred by Mathew Sutcliffe. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629. 1592 (1592) STC 23450; ESTC S117875 163,829 254

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to_o the_o say_v etc._n say_v goodman_n pag._n 196._o 87._o 34._o 35_o 185._o 180_o 184._o etc._n etc._n genevian_a doctrine_n that_o if_o the_o noble_a man_n and_o other_o inferior_a magistrate_n for_o fear_n shall_v refuse_v to_o reform_v religion_n as_o be_v mention_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n may_v do_v it_o in_o that_o case_n themselves_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o axiom_n of_o th._n cartwrighte_v heavenly_a canaan_n and_o a_o decision_n of_o their_o disciplinarian_a synod_n 41_o quaere_fw-la whether_o the_o say_a disciplinarian_n have_v not_o teach_v public_o in_o book_n rather_o than_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o reformation_n such_o as_o they_o wish_v that_o any_o private_a man_n have_v forsooth_o some_o extraordinary_a motion_n or_o call_n like_o that_o percase_o of_o hacket_n may_v embrewe_v his_o hand_n with_o the_o blood_n of_o his_o 110._o his_o goodman_n pag._n 115._o 199._o 200._o of_o obedience_n pag._n 116._o 110._o sovereign_n according_a to_o 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a_o sufficient_a answer_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o beza_n hotoman_n buchanan_n and_o other_o that_o publish_v the_o doctrine_n of_o stir_v the_o subject_n against_o their_o prince_n to_o say_v they_o write_v so_o against_o popish_a king_n and_o such_o as_o they_o judge_v tyrant_n as_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o subject_n to_o rebel_v against_o such_o as_o they_o account_v tyrant_n and_o popish_a king_n and_o of_o t.c._n let_v it_o be_v inquire_v whether_o he_o allow_v this_o for_o one_o of_o his_o cananitish_a law_n of_o his_o celestial_a consistory_n 50_o quaere_fw-la whether_o publish_v whether_o conspiracy_n for_o discipline_n and_o examination_n take_v in_o the_o star_n chamber_n publish_v t._n cartw._n and_o certain_a minister_n here_o his_o disciple_n have_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o very_a same_o course_n for_o set_v up_o the_o discipline_n in_o england_n which_o you_o shall_v perceive_v by_o the_o say_a declaration_n by_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n in_o scotland_n 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