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An answer to a booke entitvled An hvmble remonstrance in which the originall of liturgy, episcopacy is discussed : and quares propounded concerning both : the parity of bishops and presbyters in Scripture demonstrated : the occasion of their imparity in antiquity discovered : the disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested : the antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated : the prelaticall church bownded / written by Smectymnvvs.
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Smectymnuus.; Milton, John, 1608-1674.
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Wing M748; ESTC R21898
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conclâ—ricos_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la plebis_fw-la ecclesiasticos_fw-la viros_fw-la &_o inquirant_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ista_fw-la dissensiones_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la secundum_fw-la fidei_fw-la praecepta_fw-la fiant_fw-la where_o we_o see_v the_o joint_a power_n of_o these_o senior_n with_o the_o clergy_n in_o order_v ecclesiastical_a affair_n that_o by_o their_o wisdom_n and_o care_n peace_n may_v be_v settle_v in_o the_o church_n for_o which_o cause_n these_o senior_n be_v call_v ecclesiastical_a man_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o clergy_n man_n they_o be_v mention_v again_o afterward_o by_o maximus_n say_v loquor_fw-la nomine_fw-la seniorum_n populi_n christiani_n greg._n mag._n distinguish_v they_o also_o from_o the_o clergy_n tabellarium_fw-la cum_fw-la consensu_fw-la seniorum_n &_o cleri_fw-la memineris_fw-la ordinandum_fw-la these_o senior_n have_v power_n to_o reprove_v offender_n otherwise_o why_o shall_v augustine_n say_v cum_fw-la ob_fw-la errorem_fw-la aliquem_fw-la à _fw-la senioribus_fw-la arguuntur_fw-la &_o imputatur_fw-la alicui_fw-la cur_n ebrius_fw-la fuerit_fw-la dom._n cur_n res_fw-la alienas_fw-la pervaserit_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o be_v by_o the_o elder_n reprove_v for_o their_o error_n and_o drunkenness_n be_v lay_v to_o a_o man_n charge_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o senior_n to_o have_v the_o cognizance_n of_o delinquent_n and_o to_o reprove_v they_o 2._o the_o same_o augustine_n in_o psalm_n 36._o necesse_fw-la nos_fw-la fuerat_fw-la primianicausam_fw-la quem_fw-la etc._n etc._n seniorun_n literis_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la postulantibus_fw-la audire_fw-la be_v request_v by_o letter_n from_o the_o senior_n of_o that_o church_n it_o be_v needful_a for_o i_o to_o hear_v the_o the_o cause_n of_o primian_n etc._n etc._n so_o again_o optatus_n who_o mention_v a_o persecution_n that_o do_v for_o a_o while_n scatter_v the_o church_n say_v erant_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ex_fw-la auro_fw-la &_o argento_fw-la quam_fw-la plurima_fw-la ornamenta_fw-la quae_fw-la nec_fw-la defodere_fw-la terrae_fw-la nec_fw-la secum_fw-la portare_fw-la poterat_fw-la quare_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la senioribus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la albaspinâ—us_n that_o learned_a antiquary_n on_o that_o place_n acknowledge_v that_o beside_o the_o clergy_n there_o be_v certain_a of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n man_n of_o approve_a life_n that_o do_v tend_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n of_o who_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o all_o these_o testimony_n it_o be_v apparent_a first_o that_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n there_o be_v some_o call_v senior_n second_o that_o these_o senior_n be_v not_o clergy_n man_n three_o that_o they_o have_v a_o stroke_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o manage_v the_o affair_n thereof_o four_o that_o senior_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n 32._o neither_o wouâ—d_v we_o desire_v to_o choose_v any_o other_o judge_n in_o this_o whole_a controversy_n than_o who_o himself_o constitute_v foreign_a divine_n take_v the_o general_a suffrage_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o particular_a man_n as_o for_o the_o learned_a spanhemius_fw-la who_o he_o produce_v though_o we_o give_v he_o the_o deserve_a honour_n of_o a_o worthy_a man_n yet_o we_o think_v it_o too_o much_o to_o speak_v of_o he_o as_o if_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o geneva_n be_v incorporate_v into_o he_o as_o this_o remonstrant_a do_v and_o for_o spanhemius_fw-la himself_o we_o may_v true_o say_v in_o the_o place_n cite_v he_o deliver_v a_o compliment_n rather_o than_o his_o judgement_n which_o in_o dedicatory_a epistle_n be_v not_o unusual_a we_o know_v that_o reverend_a calvin_n and_o learned_a beza_n have_v say_v as_o much_o upon_o occasion_n in_o their_o epistle_n and_o yet_o the_o christian_a world_n know_v their_o judgement_n be_v to_o the_o contrary_n little_a reason_n therefore_o have_v this_o remonstrant_a 33._o to_o declaim_v against_o all_o such_o as_o speak_v against_o this_o government_n as_o unlawful_a 33._o with_o the_o term_n of_o ignorant_a and_o spiteful_a sectary_n because_o they_o call_v the_o government_n unlawful_a have_v they_o proceed_v further_a to_o call_v it_o antichristian_a which_o he_o charge_v upon_o they_o they_o have_v say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o our_o ear_n have_v hear_v some_o of_o their_o principal_a agent_n their_o legati_fw-la à _fw-la latere_fw-la speak_v public_o in_o their_o visitation_n that_o how_o ever_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v as_o sound_v and_o orthodox_n in_o her_o doctrine_n as_o any_o church_n in_o the_o world_n duck_n yet_o in_o our_o discipline_n and_o government_n we_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o amount_v to_o asmuch_o as_o to_o say_v the_o government_n be_v antichristian_a unless_o they_o will_v say_v the_o government_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o so_o nor_o the_o pope_n antichrist_n sect_n xvi_o now_o our_o remonstrant_n begin_v to_o leave_v his_o dispute_n for_o the_o office_n and_o flow_v into_o the_o large_a praâ—ses_n of_o the_o person_n and_o what_o be_v want_v in_o his_o argument_n for_o the_o place_n think_v to_o make_v up_o in_o his_o encomiastics_n of_o the_o person_n that_o have_v possess_v that_o place_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o religious_a bishop_n of_o all_o time_n be_v and_o have_v be_v they_o that_o have_v strong_o uphold_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n against_o satan_n and_o his_o antichrist_n it_o be_v well_o he_o set_v this_o crown_n only_o upon_o the_o head_n of_o religious_a bishop_n as_o know_v that_o there_o be_v and_o have_v be_v some_o irreligious_a one_o 34._o that_o have_v as_o strong_o uphold_v satan_n and_o his_o antichrist_n against_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n but_o the_o religious_a bishop_n be_v they_o that_o have_v all_o time_n uphold_v the_o truth_n what_o they_o and_o only_o they_o do_v never_o any_o uphold_v the_o truth_n but_o a_o religious_a bishop_n do_v never_o any_o religious_a minister_n or_o professor_n preach_v or_o write_v or_o die_v to_o uphold_v the_o truth_n but_o a_o religious_a bishop_n if_o so_o then_o there_o be_v some_o persuasive_a strength_n in_o that_o he_o say_v and_o a_o credulous_a man_n may_v be_v induce_v â—o_o think_v if_o bishop_n go_v down_o truth_n will_v go_v down_o too_o but_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v for_o one_o bishop_n many_o other_o that_o give_v be_v valiant_a for_o the_o truth_n this_o rhethoricall_a insinuation_n will_v contribute_v no_o great_a help_n to_o their_o establishment_n nor_o indeed_o any_o at_o all_o unless_o he_o be_v able_a to_o make_v this_o good_a of_o our_o time_n as_o well_o as_o of_o all_o other_o 35._o which_o he_o assay_v for_o say_v he_o even_o among_o our_o own_o how_o many_o of_o the_o reverend_a &_o learned_a father_n of_o the_o church_n now_o live_v 2_o have_v spend_v their_o spirit_n &_o wear_v out_o their_o life_n in_o the_o powerful_a opposition_n of_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n how_o many_o i_o sir_n we_o will_v fain_o know_v how_o many_o that_o there_o be_v some_o that_o have_v stand_v up_o to_o bear_v witness_n against_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n we_o acknowledge_v with_o all_o due_a respect_n to_o the_o learning_n and_o worth_n of_o their_o person_n but_o that_o their_o episcopal_a dignity_n have_v add_v either_o any_o flame_n to_o their_o zeal_n or_o any_o nerve_n to_o their_o ability_n we_o can_v believe_v nor_o can_v we_o think_v they_o will_v have_v do_v less_o in_o that_o cause_n though_o they_o have_v be_v no_o bishop_n but_o what_o if_o this_o be_v true_a of_o some_o bishop_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v it_o true_a of_o all_o be_v there_o not_o some_o that_o have_v spend_v their_o spirit_n in_o the_o opposition_n of_o christ_n as_o other_o have_v in_o the_o opposition_n of_o antichrist_n &_o be_v there_o none_o but_o zealous_a religious_a prelate_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v there_o none_o upon_o who_o the_o guilt_n of_o that_o may_v meritorious_o be_v charge_v 35._o which_o other_o have_v convince_o and_o