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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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the_o priesthode_n of_o your_o own_o head_n own_o m._n jew_n falsifi_v cyrillus_n by_o add_v word_n of_o his_o own_o howbeit_o even_o there_o cyrillus_n show_v that_o christ_n have_v right_a by_o succession_n which_o you_o shall_v not_o have_v conceel_v have_v you_o deal_v true_o for_o there_o it_o follow_v say_fw-la si_fw-la noviss_n o_o pharisee_n scripturas_fw-la recolere_v quòd_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdos_n qui_fw-la secundùm_fw-la ordinem_fw-la melchisedech_n offer_v deo_fw-la in_o se_fw-la credentes_fw-la per_fw-la cultum_fw-la qui_fw-la legem_fw-la transcendit_fw-la o_o thou_o pharisee_n succession_n christ_n have_v right_o also_o by_o succession_n if_o thou_o have_v know_v the_o scripture_n thou_o will_v remember_v that_o this_o
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hoc_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la de_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la voluit_fw-la iudicare_fw-la quinetiam_fw-la si_fw-la aliâs_fw-la quoque_fw-la arguerelar_fw-la episcopus_fw-la &_o morum_fw-la esset_fw-la examinanda_fw-la causa_fw-la etiam_fw-la hanc_fw-la voluit_fw-la ad_fw-la episcopule_n iudicium_fw-la pertinere_fw-la neither_o any_o man_n ought_v to_o judge_v i_o as_o stubborn_a see_v i_o affirm_v that_o which_o your_o father_n of_o most_o renown_a memory_n not_o only_o answer_v in_o word_n but_o also_o establish_v by_o his_o law_n that_o in_o a_o case_n of_o faith_n or_o any_o ecclesiastical_a order_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v judge_n that_o be_v neither_o unequal_a in_o office_n nor_o unlike_a in_o right_n or_o authority_n for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o rescripte_n that_o be_v he_o will_v priest_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o priest_n and_o also_o if_o otherwise_o a_o bishop_n be_v reprove_v and_o a_o cause_n concern_v behaviour_n and_o manner_n be_v to_o be_v examine_v he_o 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nor_o call_v they_o to_o his_o seat_n of_o judgement_n in_o any_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n or_o matter_n of_o faith_n again_o no_o man_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o superior_a but_o the_o bishop_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n be_v superior_a to_o every_o prince_n therefore_o in_o those_o cause_v the_o prince_n have_v no_o authority_n over_o the_o bishop_n and_o if_o he_o have_v no_o authority_n over_o he_o he_o can_v not_o call_v he_o to_o his_o seat_n of_o judgement_n furthermore_o be_v it_o true_a that_o the_o prince_n be_v equal_a with_o the_o bishop_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o matter_n of_o faith_n yet_o can_v he_o not_o call_v he_o to_o his_o seat_n of_o judgement_n tempestiwm_fw-la ff_n ad_fw-la s._n trebel_n l._n ille_fw-la §_o tempestiwm_fw-la quia_fw-la par_fw-fr in_fw-la parem_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la potestatem_fw-la because_o the_o equal_a have_v no_o authority_n or_o power_n over_o his_o equal_a but_o to_o see_v m._n jewel_n 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that_o a_o christian_a prince_n may_v lawful_o call_v a_o bishop_n to_o his_o consistory_n for_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o not_o able_a to_o do_v that_o you_o tell_v we_o like_o a_o trifler_n that_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v criminal_a a_o bishop_n may_v be_v convent_v before_o the_o lieutenant_n and_o in_o so_o do_v you_o prove_v that_o which_o no_o man_n deni_v as_o cranmare_n archebishop_n of_o cantorburie_n be_v call_v to_o the_o prince_n consistory_n cranmare_n cranmare_n and_o imprison_v in_o the_o tower_n for_o treason_n against_o the_o queen_n majesty_n and_o afterward_o degrade_v and_o burn_v at_o oxford_n for_o heresy_n so_o any_o bishop_n for_o like_a treason_n or_o like_o heinous_a and_o criminal_a offence_n may_v not_o only_o be_v summon_v to_o the_o prince_n seat_n of_o judgement_n but_o also_o be_v cast_v into_o prison_n and_o after_o degradation_n according_a to_o the_o canon_n be_v deprive_v of_o his_o life_n this_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v 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verò_fw-la reverendissimum_fw-la fratrem_fw-la &_o coëpiscopum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la post_fw-la quàm_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la de_fw-fr e●…_n dicta_fw-la sunt_fw-la requirentes_fw-la in_o nullo_n invenimus_fw-la esse_fw-la culpabilem_fw-la qui_fw-la insuper_fw-la ad_fw-la sacratissimum_fw-la corpus_fw-la beati_fw-la petri_n apostoli_fw-la sub_fw-la iureiurando_fw-la satisfaciens_fw-la ab_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la obiecta_fw-la fuerant_fw-la eius_fw-la opinioni_fw-la se_fw-la demonstravit_fw-la alienum_fw-la reverti_fw-la illum_fw-la purgatum_fw-la absolutúmque_fw-la permisimus_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la dignum_fw-la erat_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la in_o aliquo_fw-la reus_fw-la existeret_fw-la culpam_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la canonicè_fw-la puniremus_fw-la ita_fw-la dignum_fw-la non_fw-la fuit_fw-la ut_fw-la eum_fw-la adiwante_fw-la innocentia_fw-la diutius_fw-la retinere_fw-la vel_fw-la affligere_fw-la in_o aliquo_fw-la deberemus_fw-la purgationem_fw-la tamen_fw-la antè_fw-la dvobus_fw-la 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the_o emperor_n constantinus_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o people_n of_o nicomodia_n 19_o theodorit_n li._n 1._o c._n 19_o speak_v of_o the_o wilful_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n say_v thus_o illorum_fw-la temeraria_fw-la praesumptio_fw-la mea_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ministri_fw-la christi_fw-la manu_fw-la coercebitur_fw-la their_o rash_a attempt_n shall_v be_v repress_v by_o my_o hand_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n servant_n 7._o august_n contra_fw-la epist_n parme._n li._n 1._o cap._n 7._o so_o likewise_o s._n augustine_n say_v to_o the_o donatist_n a_o fortè_fw-la de_fw-la religione_fw-la fas_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la dicat_fw-la imperator_fw-la vel_fw-la quos_fw-la miserit_fw-la imperator_fw-la cur_n ergo_fw-la ad_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la legati_fw-la vestri_fw-la venerant_fw-la be_v it_o not_o lawful_a that_o the_o emperor_n or_o the_o emperor_n deputy_n shall_v pronounce_v in_o a_o case_n of_o religion_n wherefore_o then_o go_v your_o own_o ambassador_n to_o the_o emperor_n harding_n if_o you_o have_v say_v m._n jewel_n that_o constantinus_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o nicomedian_n have_v threaten_v to_o pounishe_v bishop_n and_o priest_n that_o be_v arian_n that_o be_v curse_a and_o abominable_a heretic_n you_o have_v in_o some_o part_n say_v the_o truth_n but_o where_o you_o say_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o wilful_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n and_o add_v not_o arian_n priest_n and_o arian_n bishop_n you_o conceele_v part_n of_o the_o true_a story_n and_o declare_v your_o malicious_a hart_n against_o priest_n and_o bishop_n but_o to_o leave_v that_o canker_a spite_n of_o you_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n why_o do_v you_o not_o report_v the_o emperor_n word_n as_o they_o be_v in_o your_o author_n theodoritus_n corruption_n m._n jewel_n corruption_n will_v you_o never_o leave_v this_o your_o accustom_a vile_a corruption_n theodoritus_n say_v not_o as_o you_o report_v but_o thus_o 19_o theodorit_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 19_o quòd_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la audacter_fw-la inconsultéque_fw-la ad_fw-la memoriam_fw-la &_o lauden_a pestium_fw-la illarum_fw-la exarserit_fw-la illius_fw-la statim_fw-la audacia_fw-la ministri_fw-la dei_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la mea_fw-la executione_fw-la coercebitur_fw-la if_o any_o man_n be_v inflame_v bold_o and_o incircumspect_o at_o the_o remembrance_n and_o commendation_n of_o those_o wicked_a and_o pestilent_a heretic_n his_o boldness_n shall_v be_v repress_v straightwaie_o by_o execution_n do_v by_o i_o that_o be_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o these_o threaten_a word_n of_o the_o emperor_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n of_o nicodemia_n for_o to_o they_o the_o epistle_n be_v direct_v and_o have_v temporal_a jurisdiction_n as_o power_n of_o life_n and_o death_n over_o they_o he_o put_v that_o terror_n into_o their_o heart_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v neither_o in_o love_n nor_o in_o admiration_n of_o those_o accurse_a bishop_n who_o he_o have_v banish_v for_o the_o arian_n heresy_n or_o if_o m._n jewel_n will_v have_v those_o word_n of_o the_o emperor_n to_o be_v refer_v as_o well_o to_o the_o bishop_n and_o priest_n as_o to_o the_o lie_v people_n let_v he_o understand_v that_o as_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o any_o prince_n to_o pounish_v heretic_n that_o be_v excommunicate_a by_o the_o church_n and_o deliver_v to_o the_o secular_a power_n be_v they_o bishop_n or_o priest_n so_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o constantine_n to_o pounishe_v these_o wicked_a arian_n bishop_n excommunicate_v and_o accuse_v by_o the._n 318._o bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o as_o the_o prince_n that_o now_o as_o a_o executor_n of_o justice_n pounish_v heretic_n by_o death_n be_v not_o for_o that_o consideration_n neither_o judge_n in_o cause_n of_o heresy_n nor_o supreme_a governor_n of_o the_o church_n so_o constantine_n at_o that_o time_n have_v no_o jurisdiction_n over_o bishop_n in_o 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